/fraud/ general

lol more likely adulterated from china, than your ugl. Ugl is likely to underdose/contaminate.

anyone get chest pains or heartburn on clen? did it go away?

Always wondered where the fuck all the pharma in the uk is coming from

I want to add in defense of the chinese, they are the last "frontier" for halfway decent gear that isnt stolen pharma

what i mean is, if the chinese ever do get pressured into clamping down on this business like the US and various EU agencies have been imploring with them for years now, thats it for the steroid game brothers.

Of course, people will still get steroids, but its going to get even nastier. Guys synthesizing testosterone in their kitchens with the same kind of nasty improvised jobs people do to get cocaine or amphetamines from precursors.

The yield will be low and very fucking unclean.

Luckily i think we're a ways off that yet. China doesn't really care about the fact they the major source of PEDs in the world, and they don't ever want to look like they are kowtowing to western pressure.

Probably turkey or moldova and ukraine if I had to guess. Theres still few countries in Europe where you can get pharmaceutical products over the counter, fairly cheaply too.

uk doesnt have super strict roid laws, last time i checked.

funny how a different pose can change much in how your shoulders and trapz look in size

Could someone please answer a few questions for me?

I want to start 200mg test per week as I cut.

1. I have access to testosterone enanthate (Test E300). Is this the correct form of test, as mentioned in the pastebin and commonly referred to?

2. should I inject 200mg all at once and then wait a week, or should I spread it out, injecting a little more every couple days?

3. Do I need to take every supplement listed in the pastebin, especially on such a low dose? Cialis seems especially expensive to get. I already take fish oil, vitamin D and do my cardio. Are any supplements critical for 200mg test weekly?

1. Yeah that's test enth
2. You'd want to inject twice a week
3. Not at all. You might not even need an AI if you're not sensitive to e2

arms look bigger too

it's either the arm pose or the trap pose. Need to be bigger to be able to do both

thinking about blasting EQ+ TEST for bulk after this.

Anyone got that anxiety from EQ?

Your skin looks like an old mans with all the liverspots

My phone can't make proper shots with darkness, It becomes noisy somehow. fcking samsung s5 shit-tier

but you're mirin anyway, sometimes it's harder to admit

Read

Had a fun night desu. Slept at her place, too drunk to do much though.

>I thought you were an asshole druggie at first. But you're chill as fuck. What are you doing Saturday?

Here have some bait then.

legit EQ dosed high + very low test, you will look amazing. Trust me.

> Anyone got that anxiety from EQ?

Not really, the worst anxiety ive ever gotten was on tren.

I get hungry as fuck on EQ though. To the point it can be quite annoying.

Stop it, you're flattering me.

hey fatty wots up

How does DNP mix with testosterone?

Yeah. that's what i also hate; To dose those amps proper. it's either 250, 500 or more

Good to hear you had a fun time breh.

Why low test tho? I know that eq will bring that crazy vascurlaity. I love that

sounds pretty nice tho. What dose would be good?

Nothing much, got a call back from another job application I put in over a week ago, looks like I've got two jobs now.

E4d of 250mg comes out to 400/week though. But it's likely 275mg because 1ml amps have 1.2ml in them.

Low test because Eq also aromatizes iirc. But at half the rate test does or something.

How come your mom let you have 2

Not even 1/2

How many of you homebrew?

>How come your mom let you have 2
Affirmative action.

>Why low test tho?

because guys look like fucking shit on high test, without fail. The only guys who think they look good are the other bloated messes in the gym, everyone else sees an uncanny valley effect, a muscular, apparently lean guy but for some strange reason looks like hes fighting off infection, stockpiling fluid all over the body.

some circles will nod their heads knowingly about what i just said, others will treat it as heretical, but seriously just try it.

On paper boldenone roughly at half the rate of testosterone yes, but in practice boldenone metabolizes to a fairly potent aromatase inhibitor, so not many guys will get estrogenic side effects from it

That's new to me. Didn't know.

What's the high Eq or no Eq meme about btw?

can you elaborate?
How does one look shit on high test cycle?

Apart from obvious stuff like acne

do what the olympic sprinters do.

high test while bulking and looking like shit

diet down on like 250mg for a few months and look good.
when you're lean you don't an AI and don't have much estrogen

never juice at above 12% BF unless you wanna look liked a bloated fat piece of shit

Up the ai dose then

Yeah me too. I look like a bloated potato on high test. But would 500 test and 600 bold proper? I remember that JM looked awesome on that dose

I got some bottle top filters recently, but they weren't holding a vacuum. I figured out why my bottle top filters wouldn't hold the vacuum, and it was simply because it wasn't airtight. I had to push the top against my thigh to get an airtight seal and only then did it hold a vacuum.

How do I make it airtight so I can start filtering faster than with those shitty syringe filters? It only came with these crappy plastic dust covers.

Also, the filters themselves are plastic, which I didn't factor in when I decided to buy them. Are they still good to use, considering they'll be under pressure?

they're both powders so they'd mix fairly well i'd imagine.
interesting question.

look the dirty secret most steroid users are loathe to admit (or even acknowledge) is that the vast majority of your "gains" on the rons are actually fluid.

Building muscle tissue still takes a really long time even with steroids, any dramatic increases in size and bodyweight in a matter of weeks i can assure you is mostly fluid.

It also, putting it bluntly, looks like shit. You don't look healthy when you are carrying huge amounts of fluid, not to mention all the other side effects that are common to testosterone, acne and what not.

other compounds are ironically better tissue builders mg for mg than testosterone is, but because they lack the fluid loading characteristics, many guys mistakenly think they are "weak".

After all, it is very ego pleasing to look at the scale climb up and to see stretch marks develop as your water balloons fill up.

When you are actually muscular and look sharp with a glossy skin texture, you look far more impressive and healthy. You also need to spend less money on all the nonsense drugs to keep the side effects under control like you do with massive test doses. And while the "gains" arent as fast, they are absolutely real and will persist longer when you do come off.

its purely anecdotal, but EQ starts to really shine in the high dose range where other steroids its really fucking debatable that its even worth increasing the dose after a certain point.

Personally, i suspect the higher dose shines because of the greater total conversion to boldenone's 5AR reduced form, dihydroboldenone also known as 1-testosterone.

(1-testosterone cypionate was/is available, but i would strongly suspect it to be fake if anyone was carrying it.)

personally i went as low as 150mg/week test, eq as high as 1 gram /week

some european on muscular development were doing similar but EQ in the 2-3 gram range. ridiculous, but they did indeed look thick, solid, tight.

Gotta get those diversity hires right?

Are they both the same type of position?

For a beginner cycle would you still just recommend sticking to test?

They're all plastic short of going for something like the OP pic. The dust cover it comes with should work fine.

Pretty much.

Did you want the combo or just the sandwich?

yes, but with the caveat that my recommendation is usually because its cheap, readily available and not faked as much as other compounds.

I tried the dust cover. It does nothing. It's literally just a cover. It just doesn't hold the vacuum with the cover since it's not airtight.

But you can grow on that too? Like you would on 750mg test only?

You want bottletop filters with a 45mm screw-in threading with accompanying media bottle. Sounds like you got a Whatman Zapcap or something, those are only good for automatic vacuum pump systems using water or electric. Zapcaps don't work with a hand vacuum pump, look at Millipore Stericups or Nalgene MF75s.

I got a Corning filter, but you're saying I've got 10 filters here that are now useless because they're not airtight?

you absolutely grow

its just real muscle growth, not the ridiculous fluid loading illusion of high test.

I know i sound a certain way when im describing this, but I'm absolutely being serious, people seriously underestimate just how much size can result from fluid. Easily 10+lbs

10lbs is a huge understatement.

Thoughts on running say, 150/600 test Eq for a long time?

Without an electric pump, yeah.

my vg is sore after sitting in the office all day
I pinnned yesterday morning shit I also biked to work
should I take some aleeve or tylenol?

long time is the best way to run eq. steady, solid increases instead of rapid weight gain is the way to go. Much healthier too.

Thing you gotta be careful of with EQ is underdosed products or relabelled deca

uhh could you name one of those compounds, or even your favourite one?

The first thing that jumps into my mind is nandrolone.

Also thank you for you very detailed output

Interesting point. You're right about that, people underestimate the bloat weight. But i wasn't aware that eq had the same muscle grow potential without the fluid.

Thanks

what about tren senpai?

what do you think would be a good dosage/ratio for like test/tren perma-"blast"? I'm a healthy male and do cardio and have kinda low bp, lean

Sup brehs. Ebay ABS Ibutamoren capitalist here. I am interested in an invite to the trip whatsapp with the sole purpose of discussing USA domestic sources as two of the best US sources have suddenly disappeared. If I am wasting time and no one wants to discuss this topic please ignore.

>sak

oh thank god, someone else that actually knows shit

>I know 1 user over here that is big and bimbo of course. The rest is too pusy to post pic or aren't bimbo or brothama big

mast pls

problem with the whole test bloof shit is it kinda goes out the window with gh

Will this be your first "legit" job?
if so how did you manage to get to 28* without having a job?
I know you were chief running gear only for the last few years

I hopped back on test 2-3weeks ago and I've gained 5-6kg
And im still cutting.. fuckin water retention huh breh

Until you hit me with a shirtless pic I can't be name dropping you with the aesthetics

hey now, he said big not cut

LET ME HAVE MY LITTLE VICTORIES DAMMIT

Brick is a qt

+1

tfw you will never been in the trip inner circle

Literally add a trip and shit post for 3 years
Ez

>that mental anticipation of a tren cycle
>feeling like child right before xmas
I absolutely love tren

>shit post for 3 years
More like 2 weeks
Ez

just for that, you both get to see a terrible gym selfie

dude

...

dude

I'm up 30lbs in 2 weeks
Fucking tren

Loving life

#tigerblood

Ive maintained alot of my size and shreds even though I took time off from lifting. Tren would push me into fitness model mode again. God and the feels on test tren mast. Jeeezus. Positivity up the wazoo

>literally excited about becoming a dry veiny striated cock

tren is pretty great if it doesn't bother you. Its another drug that I feel responds highly favorably with a low test ratio.

as for a perma blast I think its silly and shortsighted. Also, i used to think that "receptor burnout" is a dumb myth, and I still think that, but there definitely is a massive response drop off the longer you are riding high dosages.

rather than a receptor mediated mechanism being responsible for that, I believe its probably an interaction with myostatin.

whatever the case may be, its good to either get off or massively reduce dosages/compounds for both health and for future gains. Blasting and cruising is fine as a concept, but in practice many guys just stubbornly refuse to actually go on HRT dosages of testosterone during their cruise phase, so really they are just permanently blasting.

Keeping test low will help keep BP low. A lot of the increase in blood pressure is due to excess fluid and salt retention. I still lmao at the bloofy dudes at the gyms i go to turning purple from working out and someone them bleeding out of their nose doing easy work. That should be a sign to ease off, but morons tell themselves it makes them hardcore to have a body so fragile it bleeds out of its breathing apparatus under a modicum of stress.

shit m8 if you can afford GH year round, power to you. Here that shit is prohibitively expensive. Luckily what GH is available is usually legit pharma (probably stolen off the back of a truck lol)

I'm going to some festivals at the end of June so can't go too hard with my blast til that's past but afterwards I'm thinking of hopping on tren for the first time and maybe adding var and winny since i have that already
Vry excited

It'll be great
It'll be huge
I'm telling you you're gunna be huge
It'll be phenomenal

All I want is the dick skin look!
One day I may

I'm angry at myself for taking this 5 week summer course, gotta prioritize and not go apeshit for a lil while when I've got a firehose of information hooked up to my ear

receptor density and sensitivity upregulation, myonuclei upregulation, but with the correlative monkeying to cortisol, thyroid, etc levels that throws it

at least that's my best educated guess

>A lot of the increase in blood pressure is due to excess fluid and salt retention.

the water/salt/potassium triangle is a bitch, but I've seen shit that actually nixes excess salt as an actual viable method to controlling systolic or diastolic

really comes down to a lot more subtle shit like vasculature tone, cardiac load, etc being exacerbated by the increased fluid retention from gear which in turn is itself exacerbated by the classic nobody really gets it right with fluid replenishment and electrolyte balancing bullshit

using huge amounts of highly aromatizing shit without the concordant ai whack-a-mole, eating like shit, no cardio, etc

>shit m8 if you can afford GH year round, power to you

it's pretty easily within my chosen career's fiscal grasp, especially if these nignogs keep popping up offering

Did zyzz die for nothing? You're supposed to get joocy for festivals not joocy for after.

youtu.be/NI5PzBBBmm0

I feel you. Similar thing here. As long as diet is in check you won't lose much. Poor natties. Miss a little gym time there goes a year of gains.

Cortisol has an antagonist relationship with anabolic hormones. It makes sense that there would be a negative feedback mechanism

I was in college for two years, and I had my little online business for around three years, a bit of that is concurrent with the college courses, but yeah, this will be my first time employment.

Don't forget your personal reflection

That too.

MGF is very interesting and i suspect its easier to find real MGF for relatively cheap than it is to find IGF-1

We had an interesting situation in australia. Theres actual legitimate clinics that require nothing more than a questionnaire and online consultation prescribing peptides to people now.

I dont know how long that will last, but for the time being the government isnt doing anything about it. They were cracking down on "anti-aging clinics" for unethical practices however, so who knows

>take viagra
>dick still doesn't get 100% hard

My dad just put down one of our goats with a .44 revolver last week.

>buy peptides off of alibaba for about $1 per vial
>rent building and furbish it to look like a clinic
>get some chiropractor to "prescribe" peptides to people
>sell peptides for about $100 per vial
Honestly it's a really clever business strategy until it gets banned

I'll be back lifting on 400 test/week indefinitely soon. And possibly dropping to 200/600 test Eq later on.

I was putting up 265/200/440/440 incline BP/press/sq/dl at 165-170bw before.

Any guesses how fast/how much faster I'll grow back into that? I never stopped cruising on 200mg either.

my problem is just that the leaner I get the further down I want to go, but at the same time I get livid losing any strength at all and having to work back up to shit I was firing up like it was my bitch

like I want to be leaner and leaner before going full-on bulk mode but it's been at least 4 months of back and forth bullshit just nickel and diming me to death, necessitating me pulling my attention away from my goals with nutrition/training/gear/etc resulting in this kinda stutter-step that makes me want to pull my hair out

same kinda vein with fucking my hip up a good lil bit, finally accepted that I'm just going to bottom out and start from scratch doing volume with like 245 and mobility work out the ass, grind my squat back up and to where it needs to be in the low-mid 5s

this fucking gearbox sitting two feet away from me isn't helping shit either with its goddamn siren call

that's some wild shit

the whole mixing mgf, igf1, etc is so fucking far out there past what anyone else here is really ever going to even think about that it's really just a thought exercise for me right now, like filing it way the fuck back there in my toolbox for if/when it's viable, kinda like all that shit I still have rattling around from quad talking about myo-reps and all that relatively esoteric shit

actually in that kinda vein, I love getting wired on a couple pots of coffee and just watching shit from chris duffin, it's like I can feel all of this bleeding edge stuff just percolating through my brain

>between college semesters
>fat ass brother threatens to "beat the shit out of me" after i called him a dumb piece of shit for almost killing the dog
>i egg him on to show that he's too much of a bitch to do it, start calling him fat and shit
>parents start bitching at me not to challenge him

it's funny cuz they are all fat as shit and now that i am fit they treat me like the devil compared to my brother

guys, who's the best source from reddit?

also, aside from test-e, what do you recommend for a cycle? i was thinking eq for weeks 1-20 and then test-e 500 mg weeks 1-22

What do you guys use to spice up vegetables and chicken thats low sodium?

I am going to be making my own teriyaki marinade tomorrow that has almost no sodium and probably tastes like shit but at least its a different kind of shit than plain flavored shit.

Also, while on cycle how many mgs of sodium are you guys allowing yourselves each day?

Bragg's or Whole foods' brand of nutritional yeast

If carbs are high, sodium is low and vice versa.

I'd do:

250mg test-e
300mg EQ. Increase 100mg monthly.

Cleaner gains and less chance of high e2 Having to use AI all the time sucks. AIs should never be regularly used imo.

>Also, while on cycle how many mgs of sodium are you guys allowing yourselves each day?
i would like to know this as well, i haven't been tracking but i am just eating literally only brown rice, grilled chicken, and vegetables so i cant imagine it being high at all

Use herbs. I specially like fresh rosemary leaves.

Are you talking about 5-9 for a whole day?

Im struggling to stay under 500, and thats with everything bland as hell. about 1000-1500 sodium a day if im eating stuff that tastes halfway decent.

so do you have any idea on source? i want good clean product, preferably u.s domestic