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I need social gains, how do I get them?

I went to a bar tonight and didn't speak to anyone. Everyone was already in their groups, and almost all girls were with their bf

How was I supposed to talk to people?
I also can't speak very loudly, I've tried projecting, but the bartender still had a hard time understanding me. How do I get voice gains?

You ask the advice board not the fitness board

were you by yourself? i couldnt even imagine going out to a bar by myself.

when in a group its easy. go with your bros and their gfs, and their gfs friends. meet mutual friends. network that way. if thats not possible, have your boys wingman you.

I have no friends
The bar I went to was a bar with video game arcade machines, so I just played a few games and drank a few drinks, then left

/adv/ is not as good as Veeky Forums tbqh

That doesn't make requests for advice less off topic.

>going to a bar to make friends

That's where you fucked up. People usually go to bars with friends or coworkers to lay back and unwind, not to make friends.

If you want to make friends, join a hiking group or some other group based activity.

How about going to a bar to meet grills? Getting a gf is one of my goals

people always suggest going to bars to meet people

but it sucks if you are solo

idk how people do it

try meetup.com

honestly, id recommend finding friends first, then going to the bar. coworkers, volunteer somewhere, join a club for your hobby, family, idk just make friends first. then go out. bars are social places and being by yourself is very hard.

How would you define what's on topic. The makeup of the board should define it, not the title. If it was off topic, and people did not like it, they could just ignore the thread

Chris-chan pls stay

Does it relate to the pursuit of physical fitness? If the answer is no then it's off topic.

dude is the bar named BART?

mods dont remove tinder threads, is tinder fitness?

regardless, meeting people solo is hard, idk whats the best way in all honesty

It's called barcade in nyc, I'm here on vacation.

>Asking for advice on an algerian autism awareness blog

Go out, smoke or drink. Pretend to overhear a conversation while doing so. Tag in to the conversation, done.

>mfw people think this is rocket science.

I went out to a bar tonight, friend left after an hour. I just walked up to a group, started talking. Afterparty with another group atm. I walked up to them when they were ordering shots. "one more of those" to bartender. Do one shot with them for laughs, you're in. it's 6:15 AM now.

I've done that 3x this week. I've been offered cocaïne within 5 minutes of butting in on Friday. Not paying either just "want some?".

Shits easy.

that was the most sad thing ive heard, volunteer and join a sports team

this OP

well I don't know if it works but ive joined a bunch of groups and next friday i'll be going out with a group of like 50 people to hit up various bars.
I think the fact theyre all there to mingle and meet people will make it much better than the typical bar or club where people just hang out in packs

You had the balls to go to an arcade bar alone so that tells me at least your serious. Join meetup for sure and go to a few even if it's not something you would normally do. As far as your voice just be conscious of it. It's just a habit of constantly speaking louder and deeper.

Hello there user,

The best you can hope for is some loose form of compainonship from work, volunteering, a recreational sport. Think martial arts, crossfit, volunteering with the peace corp or red cross.

I tend to go out alone 99% of the time. Even when i did have friends they were too busy or didn't want to go out with me. So anyway, There is a sort of freedom that comes with that. You can do whatever the fuck you want and act however you want. You don't have to worry about anyone other than yourself. You can go up to a group of strangers, ask if they're from the area and tell them you're visiting and ask if they can suggest what to do for fun. They may even invite you to tag along

You're going to find a majority of people are just boring as fuck. At least this is what i have discovered when meeting new people. Once in a blue moon i'll come across some naturallly charasmatic motherfucker that has a way of making everyone feel good and they seem to make friends with everyone they come into contact with.

Anyway, they say if you want friends, you have to be a friend yourself. In my experience most don't even treat their friends well so don't get caught up thinking that people will give a damn about you because most really don't give a flying fuck about you unless you were to pay them. Just look at all those rich guys who have to pay escorts to hangout with them. They aren't real friends and they only care about his money. When that runs out, he is left with none.

Anyway, what city and state are you from? You may need to relocate to a place where there are more singles or younger people or people that share your similar interests

I can try that, but Im worried because I know my voice won't be loud enough for the group to hear

There aren't too many meetup groups in my area in the suburbs, I suppose I'll have to drive to the city for this. Same with volunteering, nothing looks available in evenings and weekends

I have been going alone as well and after the initial "omg what should I be doing, I am alone while everyone is surrounded by people and chatting", it kinda fades and I feel fine again.

I like to imagine that most people are boring anyhow (and spoiler: they usually are) So there is nothing gained or lost by not talking to them.

The only thing that matters is getting through to girls, but oh well. They are probably boring inside as well.

I am not an anti social tard either, its just that after talking to so long, to so many people around me, you form a mental map of the average person that you may encounter, and once you do, to me at least I realized that they are extremely underwhelming compared to me.

Because as we are here on Veeky Forums where I get some small amount of coherent and intelligent things from, do you really think that there are people out there who even know what DNP is? What squats are? How to eat well? Nobody cares about that outside. Its all just boring normie stuff.

to add to that: I think its fair to actually feel like you are better than other people, if you actually are better.

I mean, the first thing these normies do is post pictures of hats and fat neckbeards. If you are like one of them in the pictures, sure, you are still not better.

But there are many of us here who physically not only lost their fat, but also got more fit, and handsome.

Somewhere, some time ago, we vaguely and without knowing surpassed the normies. So far that many of us go in feeling like we are at the mercy of these so called grande socialites, and when we finally hang around them, and learn of them and their ways, we realize that its not like that at all.

These people are lower than us. They are the ones who should be looking up to us, not the other way around.

Thanks, will try that

Thanks for the advice, I do want to find some volunteering positions. I live in the suburbs of Toronto

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Thanks, I'm not good at making friends though.. People go to bars and clubs and pick up girls though. Thought it would be a good way to improve my social skills, so that I will be able to make friends from work and hobbies

Get a people job, get social gains and money gains

I already have a job, I'm surrounded by chads and normies.

People at work are friends with each other, they get coffee and lunch together, party together, they ate friends on Facebook and Snapchat. Im not invited, so I'm usually alone. and I don't use social media (no friends)

Damn thats not really a people job just cus theres other People. I was thinking cashier or some shit where youre forced to smalltalk. But really, you gotta look your fear in the eyes, thats the only Way to improve. Set a goal Per day, today you gotta talk to someone. Go to a bus stop and ask the hottest person if they know where the bus is headed or some shit. Improve from there. Read behavioural/social theory and try to Apply

What are good opening lines? I can't think of anything, like situational lines (e.g. Things to say while Waiting in line somewhere, browsing in a store, on the bus, etc.)

Also, how do I not feel weird asking questions, like your suggestion about where the bus is headed, I feel weird asking a question I already know the answer to.. I'm not very good at lying and acting

How is that sad? People go to bars alone.. R-right?

You can't think of situational lines because you're not in a situation right now, you're on Veeky Forums... If conversation topics don't spring to mind when you're in public you are braindead. You're confusing a lack of confidence with "not being able to think of things"

Make a simple remark about something. Ask a question and if she's comfortable she will start talking like a parrot (that's conversation for her). If she's not she will just cut it and leave you while you and your social anxiety will go your own way.

Don't lye and don't act. Don't try to be a big number.

Maybe it's because I always think I have nothing interesting to say. I'm quiet in conversations too. People call me quiet, some have even asked why I don't talk.

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Remember, treat girls like they aren't important.

Because they aren't

Here let me try help - I used to be shy, then got social gains and fit in that order. As a result I'm now a chad without the forced confidence as I like talking to others. Here's some tips:

Comment on a topic common to both of you at the moment: the venue, the food, the occasion, the weather (yes, talking about the weather is a cliche, but it works). “How do you know our host?” “What brings you to this event?” But keep it on the positive side! Unless you can be hilariously funny, the first time you come in contact with a person isn’t a good time to complain.

2. Comment on a topic of general interest. A friend scans Google News right before he goes anywhere where he needs to make small talk, so he bring up some interesting news item.

3. Ask a question that people can answer as they please. My favorite question is: “What’s keeping you busy these days?” It’s useful because it allows people to choose their focus (work, volunteer, family, hobby). Also, it's helpful if you ought to remember what the person does for a living, but can’t remember.

4. Ask open questions that can’t be answered with a single word.

5. If you do ask a question that can be answered in a single word, instead of just supplying your own information in response, ask a follow-up question. For example, if you ask, “Where are you from?” an interesting follow-up question might be, “What would your life be like if you still lived there?”

lol barcade isn't really a bar, it's just mostly where the NYU kids and hipsters go to fuck around and play retro video games

>You're cute as hell, but you use an iphone
lol is this your attempt at a neg?

I usually just talk about their phone or what they wear so I don't accidentally point out something theyre insecure about and fuck it all up.

I fucked her that night, so I'm not complaining.

6. Ask getting-to-know-you questions. “What internet sites do you visit regularly?" "What vacation spot would you recommend?” These questions often reveal a hidden passion, which can make for great conversation. I'm working on Before and After, a book about habits, and one side benefit is that I have an excuse to ask people about their good and bad habits, and their answers are inevitably fascinating. Plus people enjoy talking about their habits.

7. React to what a person says in the spirit in which that that comment was offered. If he makes a joke, even if it’s not very funny, try to laugh. If she offers some surprising information (“Did you know that the Harry Potter series have sold more than 450 million copies?”), react with surprise.

8. Be slightly inappropriate.

9. Watch out for the Oppositional Conversational Style. A person with oppositional conversational style (I coined this term) is a person who, in conversation, disagrees with and corrects whatever others say. If you practice this style of conversation, beware: other people often find it deeply annoying.

10. Follow someone’s conversational lead. If someone obviously drops in a reference to a subject, pick up on that thread.

11. Along the same lines, counter-intuitively, don’t try to talk about your favorite topic, because you’ll be tempted to talk too much. This is a strategy that I often fail to follow, but I should follow it. I’ll get preoccupied with a topic -- such as happiness or habits -- and want to talk about it all the time, with everyone I meet, and I have a lot to say.

Hope that provides a foundation - remember people like to talk about themselves so ask them about that, talk about current events (everyone has an opinion - Trump, Ebola, Isis etc) so long as it fits in with the general mood and talk to everyone and anyone - bus drivers, cashiers, waitresses etc

Thanks for the advice

For point 1, if I'm at a bar or club, can I say what brings you to this bar? Or is this as bad as "do you come here often?" and I should try to think of something else?

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>but I'm too young

>You go to clubs, so you drink right?
>Imagine that, but you spend 200 dollars and sweat out your hair
how does this shit work?

>taco bell
>Cheesy beef burrito
taco bell is gross

No one wants to hear you talk. People only give a shit about themselves. If you want social gains, just learn simple questions that let people talk about themselves.

"Man its fucking hot out. I wish there was a beach around here. Whats your favorite beach youve been to?"
For example. Or anything

Easy wins:
Man did you see GoT last night?
[for girls] omg, did you see Chad (Literally) on the bachelortte last night?
So hey, Im grilling a steak last night and it didnt come out as I expected. Do you grill much? Whats your tricks you use?

Etc. Just let people talk. They love that shit. Ask questions that show you listened and lets them keep talking, and soon enough everyone will love you.

can you say this kind of thing to anybody? or people you know?
what if they don't watch GoT or the bachelorette? can you really go up to a random person and start talking about GoT?

let's say i'm on the train and there is a girl sitting near me. or if i'm waiting for the train. can i just start talking about the weather?

Girl in OPs pic?