Keep doing your chemo retard. Get some exercise if you want.
Nathaniel Morris
Deadlifts cure cancer
Jonathan Jones
Who's more swole? Your gym bros or your doctor?
Lincoln Hall
Exercise as in big weight?
Jack Campbell
>My gym bros also tell me that lifting and whey fight cancer better than chemo since your body gets stronger and shit.
Lincoln Bailey
I heard of this quack before. I think his name was Dr. Gaines Gawblin. Do not follow any of his advice.
Jaxon Taylor
>MD, smart motherfucker, 12+ years of education and clinical experience >gym bros, batshit retarded goons who lift for girls, are internet-wise and rely on anecdotal evidence
Choose wisely my friend
Brayden Bailey
Your body energy will go into your muscles and not into the tumor, whoever is doctor faggot is, he wants you dead
Colton Watson
>risking your gains over something silly like your life
Go to the gym
Nathan Jones
No, don't over-stimulate your IGF-1 you fucking faggot, unless you want to kiss-goodbye life Choose: life or gains >shall I trust science or broscience If you choose to commit sudoku and hit the gym, the gene pool will be relieved
Hunter Murphy
I completely stopped going to the gym when I was diagnosed and I lost everything. Started again once I was in remission.
I didn't even consider going since chemo made me feel like shit all the time.
John Cox
When you workout your body releases cortisol and creatinine, the precursor to creatine, which converts fatty cells to muscle. Cancer cells are fatty tissue that are also broken down by this process. Don't listen to some dyel medfag who only pushes pills and not weights. I guarantee he's in the pockets of big pharma who sells "this magic beam of light that cures cancer like this is fucking x-men and shit".
Liam Jackson
Have you seen how DYEL those chemo fags are? You don't want to be a DYEL, do you user? lift those weights
Blake Taylor
Sorry for you Bros cancer is awful Listen to your doctor goddamn
Josiah Ross
What I'm starting to think
Colton Watson
You want to minimize growth hormone and go into the deepest ketosis possible. Check out Ivor Cummin's interview with Andrew Scarborough, this is cutting edge research that could save your life user: youtu.be/4f5e9GbXvIk
Evan Thompson
Why minimize test?
Gabriel Jackson
>but this guy is some skinny/beta looking fuck. >I don't know if I can trust such a faggot to run my life anymore and keep me away from my weights. >Veeky Forums LITERALLY judges people credibility by their physical appearance
Daniel Nguyen
>My gym bros also tell me that lifting and whey fight cancer better than chemo since your body gets stronger and shit. My fucking sides.
Ryan Hall
A strong body and whey fights chemo? How about you right an article for Livestrong. Cite your gymbros as sources. Don't forget pictures..
So is cancer. But chemo gives you a fighting chance. Shill your useless products somewhere else.
Kevin Gonzalez
Get a second opinion, dumbass. Worried that your doctor might not know what he's talking about? SEE ANOTHER DOCTOR. This isn't rocket science.
Brody Roberts
It seems like every one I've seen keep shilling the drugs
Jeremiah Ross
Well you have cancer you fucking retard, do you expect to get better with fucking magic? Your options are to gamble on chemo or accept slow death, end of line.
Jeremiah Reed
lol, everyone replying to the obvious bait
Isaiah Barnes
Idk.. Chemo seems like certain death. I noticed ever since I went on it, my gains have dipped like crazy and it's only getting worse.
Something has to change.
Angel Anderson
>implying doctors know shit >implying those 12 years of "education" aren't spent on pointless paper work >gym bros >years of ACTUAL experience and first hand know how gym bros every time
Jacob Moore
People who call cancer a fight a fucking idiots. It implies hope and that you have any actual control over the fact that you're likely going to die from cancer complications. You aren't fighting shit.
Jonathan Brooks
>that one guy who watched breaking bad and thinks he knows anything about cancer
Evan Davis
its amazing how retarded the majority of people are regarding health issues.
its more amazing that you would literally disregard the opinion & advice of a Dr who specializes in oncology.
perhaps you should stop chemo so your tainted blood line ends with you niga.
Ethan Martinez
metaphorically its very easy to see why people call treating cancer as a "fight".
you're trading blows with a disease in the hopes it goes down before your body goes down.
at any time if you want you can stop and just let it have you.
or you can continue despite the discomfort/pain of the treatments themselves in the hopes you'll pull through.
how is this not obvious.
Chase Green
God I hope this is bait
You have cancer you batshit retard
Your body is literally killing itself
Your genetic code is shit and is just self destructing
Your lifts will not go up while this is happening you tard
Jaxson Miller
> "Cancer kills indiscriminately. It's killed family members and friends of mine. How much of a "fighter" someone is doesn't matter - who lives and who dies is the result of a confluence of medical intervention and luck. That's it, really. I had a friend who got cancer (leukemia) and sank into deep depression. He ended up surviving, but to this day he's fighting mental illness that was triggered by his cancer. My friend's dad died of cancer (lymphoma) and he was a Vietnam vet who told his son "don't be a pussy" when his son was scared to ask out a girl in HS."
I didn't write that but the guy who did put it into words better than I possibly can.
Liam Edwards
Look in to dom d'agostino and the ketogenic diet. apparently there are big benefits to following a keto diet while on chemo.
Liam Wilson
i still fail to see the point.
some guy has experienced cancer and is now jaded as fuck.
> if you try you're just dumb you're not fighting you're just dying blah blah blah all we are is dust on the wind 123 123 123 kappa.
good story, doesn't change the fact it's a fight in many definitions of the word '
2. struggle to overcome, eliminate, or prevent.
Xavier Long
>le quoting a stupid guy who also watched breaking bad to make your point meme we're done here
Joshua Price
he's basically saying that cancer isn't a fight, who lives and who dies mostly comes down to luck.
you're as dumb as a brick if you think most people who have cancer isn't "fighting" to survive, and a lot of those would have died simply because they got unlucky.
Landon Cooper
I know what he's saying and in my first post I said he was a retard who watches too much breaking bad
Lucas Davis
not an argument
Brody Moore
> you're as dumb as a brick if you think most people who have cancer isn't "fighting" to survive
so you agree with me.
the fact its luck doesn't change the fact people are 'fighting' to survive by the definition of the word 'fight'.
again
2. struggle to overcome, eliminate, or prevent.
you're objectively wrong, you can double down on your retarded point of view if you want, but at this stage your argument has collapsed on itself.
no doubt you'll cling to your opinion out of spite, but yeah dumb opinion.
Joshua Taylor
no shit I wasn't presented with anything worth more than a flippant response
Aiden Price
> 2. struggle to overcome, eliminate, or prevent.
so those who died as a result of their cancer weren't good 'fighters' because they couldn't "struggle to overcome, eliminate, or prevent it"?
Ian Ramirez
it's called losing the fight you tard
Samuel Baker
but by calling cancer patients fighters you're implying that the people who died as a result of it simply weren't strong enough to beat it.
Bentley Jackson
no duh. people die to lots of curable illnesses because their constitutions are weak
James Watson
You could say they took too many unlucky blows. That wouldn't make them a poor fighter necessarily.
Owen Robinson
> people die to lots of curable illnesses because their constitutions are weak
Aaron Sullivan
Malpractice is a thing
Wyatt Taylor
Yeah but it's not even a fight.
The victims don't do a fucking thing apart from getting the illness or disease. The doctors give them treatments, and sometimes, by luck, they beat the illness or disease. The sick person didn't do anything. The doctors do it all, they either cure the patient or lose a patient.
Hunter Bailey
quite fucking literally, holy shit stop trying to argue you this.
do you know how the majority of cancer patients die?
have you seen it?
they waste nigger, they waste to nothing.
men reduced form 80kg
to 35kg.
you waste until you can't reasonably treat it with chemo anymore.
then you die.
just shut the fuck up honestly.
Sebastian Gomez
they literally weren't.
Jason Lewis
>he actually thinks the person's body and mind are non-factors
Josiah Ortiz
okay, keep believing that if you want, it's not like anything i say from this point onward is going to change your closed minds.
Bentley Taylor
I'd go swimming.
You're not going to ge tany recommendations to resume resistance exercise from your oncologist. My dad had a BMT as part of treatment for leukemia and the docs wouldn't even consider anything outside of walking. He's still noticeably skinnier three years later. his hormone profile is utterly wrecked.
What kinda cancer you got op?
Camden Flores
>that one 18 year old who thinks he knows everything because he watched the dad from malcom in the middle die of cancer on TV
Lincoln Martin
you've got how many people call you a retard
like i said here.
> no doubt you'll cling to your opinion out of spite, but yeah dumb opinion.
how many people would it take for you to reconsider your opinion?
i mean you're factually 100% wrong just by the definition of the word, its not disputable.
but how many people would it take calling you a retard for you to reconsider your position.
10? 20? 50? 100?
use your brain.
Julian Allen
19, actually.
stay set in your ways, grandpa
:^)
Chase Clark
> how many people would it take for you to reconsider your opinion?
...and how many people thought slavery was acceptable 50 years ago? Hmm??
Caleb Sullivan
explains it, most teenagers get to the stage where they start forming opinions with hard and fast rules.
can't take on board other perspectives, arguments, etc.
they argue out of spite, stubbornness, even when they're clearly wrong.
usually their opinions are based on lack of experience/information, made too quickly, too absolute.
good luck with finishing your puberty.
i know this is how you are cos its how I was a few years ago so I don't hold it against you.
William Thompson
hooked on phonics.
Gabriel Robinson
that's not a parallel to what we're discussing.
you can't just say
> what about the nazis and the jews
> what about slavery
in response to a simple question like changing an opinion.
that's idiotic.
Jack Harris
>Implying he dies of cancer Does cancer make you talk out your ass?
Julian Butler
is english not your first language? dying is a process. he was dying of cancer the first episode and you watched him die of it throughout the series
nice try though
Jacob Kelly
Maybe i should've specified that i think people should stop associating whether or not cancer patients live or die with whether they were a fighter or not.
I guess a lot of cancer patients are still "fighting" in the way that they live their lives while suffering.
Landon Walker
ANYWAYS.
OP here. Just talked to one of my gymbros again.
He also recommends that I double my creatine intake as he claims that the extra energy makes your immune system target and kill cancer cells at a fast af rate.
Should I go for it and dump my doctor for good?
Noah Hall
so you want people to stop calling it fighting cancer because even after the cancer is gone they're still "fighting" other things?
seems like you just have a hangup about the word, even though it's accurate and descriptive
Austin Clark
No, your doctor probably knows more about treating cancer than the common gymbro haha
Lucas Sullivan
but again it obviously there is an obvious way it is
at any point you can stop treatment and let the disease kill you.
they'll give you palliative treatment, you'll go quieter, less pain, your family won't see you waste away literally.
or you can continue to treat in the hopes the cancer is overturned, even temporarily.
people will fight cancer until the point of death, until the chemo itself is what kills them.
people will choose to take their last 6 months and die quietly.
to continue treatment is by all definitions a fight, that's the whole point.
like this perspective is so reductionist its agony to argue against you.
the same way patients wont die until their last family member gets there from 2 hours away
same way patient's cling onto life despite the fact they should have died weeks ago.
shit I've seen a guy go on for months who realistically should of died after a couple days.
the body just declines death, that's what the medical community refers to as a 'fighter'.
Joseph Murphy
Yes. Your doctor is just trying to sell you expensive treatment. Your gym bro is looking out for you and actually cares what's best for you.
Nolan Sanchez
you're obviously trolling, your thread is boring, stop posting.
if you couldn't workout why nobody is replying to thread topic anymore because it's shit and your trolling skills are 3/10 at best.
thanks.
Justin Williams
It depends on how the cancer patient feels about being called a "fighter" imo, I'd probably just ask my mate if he liked being called a fighter before saying it because evidently not everyone feels the same way about it.
Nathan Brown
>Ruptured a tendon yesterday >I have eaten twice in the last 24 hours >Still no pain meds, considering suicide but I can't tell anyone because then I definitely won't get pain meds
Wyatt Sanchez
fair enough, i still wouldn't want to be called a fighter but i can see why some people wouldn't mind it.
James Gonzalez
Wow only 2 meals in a day what a trooper
Adrian Gutierrez
Keep doing the chemo Chemo is like weights. If you are not dedicated to it shit doesn't work. Stopping half way will just guarantee cancer and not only that you will live even less than if you had no treatment.