Why are Catholic countries less developed than Protestant countries...

Why are Catholic countries less developed than Protestant countries? Did they lose track during the age of enlightenment and never did catch up to the again? Or is Catholic culture just detriment to science and commerce?

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Also, why are the majority of important scientists since the 17th century Protestants? Like Newton and Leibnitz?

By and large, Catholic countries are further south than Protestant countries and thus have more nigger and MENA admixture.

>Or is Catholic culture just detriment to science and commerce?
That's just Christianity.

Protestant success is due to being too smart for Christianity and becoming secular.

Catholic countries almost always have proper human weather. As BASEDseppe Sergi said it himself: "those fucking snownigroes live in such frozen shitholes they just GOTTA do som't'in' else besides being suicidal."

>inb4 the Australian Catholic autist tries claiming again that Australia is a Catholic nation
Protestants still outnumber Catholics in Australia (although barely) and Australia was built by Protestants on Protestant values.

Why did for example New Zealand became a world leading country and something like the Dominican Republic beacame a complete shithole? I doubt it was just genetics.

No Religion is new majority. I love how fast society secularizes in the western world.

Switzerland/Germany are mixed in confession

Catholic nations have soul and culture though, not what could be said about uptight protestants

Also richest part of Germany is catholic

No, Christianity is still the majority (assuming you're going by the statistics). Realistically though you're right, because many people that put down "Christian" aren't really Christian.

These empty minds are way too tasty though... why wouldn't someone do something?

I think Protestantism was far more indiviualistic, personal relationship with God and all that. I believe it also ignored alot of the traditional laws Catholics imposed on themselves like on usury.

Overall Protestantism just created a culture more conductive to science and industry.

Though it hardly matters now since Catholics ignore church teachings they dont like these days

With the rich parts being the protestants cities in Switzerland in Germany the southern part that wasn't commy suppressed.
Poor excuse of you look at the overal list.

wasn't Newton a Deist?

Because once you turned secular you are not looking for the next shitty cult. Thats what turning away from religion means. Fuck, even the immigrant muslims turn majority irreligious after a generation or so.

He sure was no cathocuck.

the point is, that he wasn't a protestant

He was protestant, baptised, raised, studied theology, in a protestant country in a protestant family at a protestant schoo.
Kinda makes him protestant. l

The richest part of Germany is Bavaria-Hesse-Baden, which are all majority Catholic. And the largest single denomination in the USA, by far, is Catholic (about 25% of the population), with Catholicism being least common in the southeast part of the country (which is mostly Baptist) which is by far the poorest area on average.

>the largest single denomination in the USA, by far, is Catholic
Given that there are literally tens of thousands of Protestant denominations in the USA this isn't surprising whatsoever, and it seems quite disingenuous of you to say that.

Protestantism is dominant throughout the entire nation, and barely more so in the south than in the north. The only difference is that the north has more Catholic "enclaves".

Also there is no real correlation between denomination and wealth.

>Switzerland
More Catholics than Protestants
>Germany
More Catholics than Protestants
>Netherlands
More Catholics than Protestants
>Ireland
Overwhelmingly Catholic

Good job getting BTFO by your own picture

Low population is the non meme answer

Germany and the Netherlands have traditionally between Protestant nations.

Yet the picture is talking about modern Germany and not Gernany from the 1600s.

>Switzerland traditionally protestant
Ever heard of the Swiss guard?

Because once you abandon God you start caring more about materialistic wealth instead of spiritual matters. Since every Protestant that ever lived is screaming and screaming and screaming and screaming in Eternal Hellfire then you can't really consider their nations more developed except by your warped and twisted Wikipedia standards.

>Ever heard of the Swiss guard?
Not him, but this is a retarded ass comment to make. If bodyguard mercenaries determine ethnicity by their patron, then Arabs are catholic since Frederick II (the Holy Roman Emperor, not the Prussian one) had an Arab bodyguard, and the Anglo-Saxons of the late 11th century were Eastern Orthodox, since they enlisted in the Varangian guard.

>not Gernany from the 1600s
Germany was majority Protestant right up until the East-West split and the resulting secularism in the East.

>>Switzerland traditionally protestant
I said the Netherlands, which was also majority Protestant until quite recently.

Catholics encourage charity and equality and being good to your fellow man. Protestants are more social darwinists who advocate a ''get ahead at everyone else's expense'' attitude, and if the people around you are suffering don't help because God wants them that way. That might be good for the economy, but not a nice society to live in.

would never happen in a Catholic country

Are you seriously arguing no one died of typhoid fever while visiting a holiday camp in Catholic countries? That's pretty laughable.

Let's throw in Christian Africans- who are mostly protestant- and see how far your shitty graph goes.

I'm pretty sure Latin Americans and people like Flips have a shot at future more than these paragons of Protestantism.

America is not a Catholic country. It has always been majority protestant. Catholics (Irish) were looked down upon for the longset time as a monority. JFK was one of our only few Catholic presidents. And he didn't even last that long compared to others.

I meant the treatment she received

>According to Hobhouse, she was treated harshly in the hospital. Unable to speak English, she was labelled an "idiot" by an English-speaking doctor and her nurses, who were unable to understand her. One day she started calling for her mother; a lady went over to comfort her, but "was brusquely interrupted by one of the nurses who told her not to interfere with the child as she was a nuisance." Lizzie died in 1901 at seven years of age.[4]

can't anyone be an atheist, agnostic, pantheist or whatever you want to imagine, that is baptised and raised in a protestant family in a protestant country, where he studies/ed theology at a protestant school?

The shittiest parts of Christian Africa are Catholic.

tfw frenchies and mexicans are US only hope

The Protestsnt East Germany was always an abject shithole and this includes the former Eastern Prussia. Richest state is Bavaria.

Kennedy was the only Catholic president.

In a Catholic hospital they would probably have hired a paedo to abuse her as she died.

>Africans who are mostly protestant

>Protestantism is dominant throughout the entire nation,
No, the northeast and west are majority Catholic thanks to New York, California, New Jersey, and Massachusetts.

>The Protestsnt East Germany was always an abject shithole
Wrong, Saxony used to be the economic and cultural powerhouse of Germany. The north has also been quite well off historically.

>northeast
Specific parts of the north-east

>west
Specific parts of the west

Because protestants love usury and jewish gold
No wonder the first major bank in Germany and England were funded by jews and protestants.
Besides in the top 5 nations in your list the kids are like pic

Note: read the history of banking in europe and you'll see the truth behind protestant ''ethics''

You mean how banking, after the collapse of the Roman Empire, re-started in heavily catholic Italy?

>re-started
So you are going to give me sources saying Jesuits and Templars established usury-banking in europe right?
Go to amazon and buy any history book about banking in europe. Venezian market center had no central bank unlike London in the 17th century or Frankfurt.

Puritans worshiped hard labor and later the industrial revolution. They thought material progress was spiritual progress. Needles to say they were wrong. They created the "biggest economy" in the United States thanks to their fetish with industry and technology

Norway: 5 million people, monopoly on North Sea oil, 40% tax and a bunch of autists who don't think about anything other than computers and gay sex
Not hard to imagine how easy it is to give a food and healthcare to 5 million heavily taxed robots.

>The richest part of Germany is Bavaria-Hesse-Baden, which are all majority Catholic. A
Yes, since WW2 and the Marshall plan, and since the rest of Germany was commiecucked. Before that they where significatnly less developed than for example Saxonia or Prussia.

>>Switzerland
>More Catholics than Protestants
You dumb or something? they have the same ammount, with the cahtocucks being in the poor mountain cantons and the Protestants in the rich city. PErfet example for whats going on.

50 posts and nobody mentioned that the development split wasn't catholic/protestant but north south, specifically extremely minerally rich north vs utterly minerally poor south. Some history board this is.
Hard to industrialize when you have to import iron and coal from far fucking away. Britain's extreme availability is always cited as the reason for its early industrialization, and it's not a coincidence that after Britain, the earliest industrialization happened in the rhenish uplands, extremely coal rich as they were.
But nevermind history, let's make the thread about interdenominational shitflinging and racism, that will totally distinguish us from /pol/!

Spain and France and Portugal have plenty of mineral resources, didn't made it anyway. Protestant parts in mineral poor Switzerland still developed better. Your post doesn't make a lot of sense.

As a Swiss I can tell you this is not true.
The only thing is that Zürich and Bern is protestant, Geneva is *officially" protestant but the majority is catholic and most top politicians are also catholic

Zürich, Bern, Geneva were hardcore protestant and the leaders in industrialization and education. Catholic cantons remained farmers and are so to this day.

Basel too.

>Geneva is *officially" protestant but the majority is catholic a
Geneva was one of the centers of protestantism for centuries, it just have been overrun by French economical rapefugges in the last couple years.

Excerpts from The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism

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>A number of those sections of the old Empire which were most highly developed economically and most favoured by natural resources and situation, in particular a majority of the wealthy towns, went over to Protestantism in the sixteenth century. The results of that circumstance favour the Protestants even to-day in their struggle for economic existence.

>The emancipation from economic traditionalism appears, no doubt, to be a factor which would greatly strengthen the tendency to doubt the sanctity of the religious tradition, as of all traditional authorities.

>But further, and especially important: it may be, as has been claimed, that the greater participation of Protestants in the positions of ownership and management in modern economic life may to-day be understood, in part at least, simply as a result of the greater material wealth they have inherited.

>On the other hand, Catholics prefer the sort of training which the humanistic Gymnasium affords.

>Among journeymen, in other words, the Catholics show a stronger propensity to remain in their crafts, that is they more often become master craftsmen, whereas the Protestants are attracted to a larger extent into the factories in order to fill the upper ranks of skilled labour and administrative positions.

>The explanation of these cases is undoubtedly that the mental and spiritual peculiarities acquired from the environment, here the type of education favoured by the religious atmosphere of the home community and the parental home, have determined the choice of occupation, and through it the professional career.

>On superficial analysis, and on the basis of certain current impressions, one might be tempted to express the difference by saying that the greater other-worldliness of Catholicism, the ascetic character of its highest ideals, must have brought up its adherents to a greater indifference toward the good things of this world. Such an explanation fits the popular tendency in the judgment of both religions. On the Protestant side it is used as a basis of criticism of those (real or imagined) ascetic ideals of the Catholic way of life, while the Catholics answer with the accusation that materialism results from the secularization of all ideals through Protestantism. One recent writer has attempted to formulate the difference of their attitudes toward economic life in the following manner: “The Catholic is quieter, having less of the acquisitive impulse; he prefers a life of the greatest possible security, even with a smaller income, to a life of risk excitement, even though it may bring the chance of gaining honour and riches. The proverb says jokingly, ‘either eat well or sleep well’. In the present case the Protestant prefers to eat well, the Catholic to sleep undisturbed.”

>Even the Spaniards knew that heresy (i.e. the Calvinism of the Dutch) promoted trade

>What is meant can again best be explained by means of an example. The type of backward traditional form of labour is today very often exemplified by women workers, especially unmarried ones. An almost universal complaint of employers of girls, for instance German girls, is that they are almost entirely unable and unwilling to give up methods of work inherited or once learned in favour of more efficient ones, to adapt themselves to new methods, to learn and to concentrate their intelligence, or even to use it at all. Explanations of the possibility of making work easier, above all more profitable to themselves, generally encounter a complete lack of understanding. Increases of piece-rates are without avail against the stone wall of habit. In general it is otherwise, and that is a point of no little importance from our view-point, only with girls having a specifically religious, especially a Pietistic, background.

Catholics murdered the people smart enough to resist them; the result are inbred savages who cannot mount a resistance.

Like half of the countries listed have a Catholic majority or at least a very significant Catholic minority.

>Germany before Denmark and Netherlands
As a German, I doubt that

>protestants love usury and jewish gold
don't catholics have to give up 10% of their shekels or they go to hell though?

What are
>Bavaria and the Rhineland
>Northern Italy
>Flanders
>Ireland
Shit thread

What about Hannover

>French economic rapefugees
You mean like Jean Calvin?

lol, Spain doesnt have a shit.

The only valuable thing we have is wolfram and a bit of uranum.

The problem of my country is that we went dowhill in the most critical centuries for the mankind, XIX and XX centuries.

Another problem, that Portugal and Greece suffer more, is their isolation from the european core.

Congrats, make an industrial revolution with Spanish, Portuguese and French mineral coal.
We will wait.
You can even try some Italian too.

no country on that list has any religion

A deist, trying to calculate the return of Jesus, the Messiah?

Doubt it.

(2056 AD)

You know you are making this way to easy for me, don't you?

Have you take in count the quality of the coal?