I'm interested in finding historical examples of mutual respect/ respect between adversaries,
for example, 'Rommel you magnificent bastard'.
don't know why, makes me comfy how even though they're enemies, they admire the others skill. I think it's a war thing.
>After months harassing the Arctic convoys, the KM Scharnhorst was cornered by the fast battleship HMS Duke of York, a cruiser, three light cruisers and nine destroyers. Blinded by a snowstorm and a lucky strike on the conning tower, Scharnhorst returned fire. It took twelve hours, 52 salvos and four direct torpedo hits to capsize the Scharnhorst. As the Scharnhorst rolled, every gun that was operational kept firing until she was on her belly. Of the 1,968 men on Scharnhorst, only 36 survived.
>"Gentlemen, the battle against Scharnhorst has ended in victory for us. I hope that if any of you are ever called upon to lead a ship into action against an opponent many times superior, you will command your ship as gallantly as Scharnhorst was commanded today." - Admiral Bruce Fraser
;-; yeah this is what I'm looking for
Sal Adin and Richard the Lionheart
Napoleon and Wellington both admired each other quite a lot. One of Wellington's most well known quotes is something along the lines of "His hat on the battlefield was worth 40,000 men." He also said that now that only now that Napoleon is gone is he the best general in the world. Napoleon often shit talked about his enemies but he openly admitted how good Wellington was and how he was a real challenge to fight.
I can't remember names or battles but Napoleon paying respect to other successful generals and leaders when it was due came up often enough in Andrew Roberts' biography.
It's been a while since I read Roberts' biography (though it's a great one), but I recall him saying that if Napoleon thought a general was good, more often than not he just wouldn't even say anything about them, sort of like how some people show their approval not by praising but by not criticizing.
At the Battle of Leyte Gulf, during the battle off Samar, a small squadron of US escort destroyers stood between a superior IJN heavy warship fleet and the US amphibious assault fleet. The US squadron attacked the superior force, and one particular USN ship was heavily damaged but kept underway and fighting until it went silent and sinking. A Japanese warship ceased fire and sailed close abeam of their dying enemy, its crew manning the rails silently in tribute to the action. Based Japs, they were.
cringe
>On 19 February, a funeral service was held at his home, followed by a military procession. General Joseph E. Johnston, the Confederate officer who had commanded the resistance to Sherman's troops in Georgia and the Carolinas, served as a pallbearer in New York City. It was a bitterly cold day and a friend of Johnston, fearing that the general might become ill, asked him to put on his hat. Johnston famously replied: "If I were in [Sherman's] place, and he were standing in mine, he would not put on his hat." Johnston did catch a serious cold and died one month later of pneumonia
"magnificent bastard" wasn't a meme back then
This.
After the Battle of Hradec Králové (Königgrätz) Moltke said that Benedek did very well, but i cant say if it wasnt affected by the fact Moltke liked Benedek for some personal reason or that "P*ussians" tried not to humiliate A-H.
Richard the Lionheart and Saladin
Said the guy who's never done anything of worth in his life.
Most famous was probably the odd amicability of the 2nd SS Panzer Corps to its opponents during Market Garden, primarily towards the 1st Airborne at Arnhem and to a lesser extent the 82nd crossing the Waal. The frontline troops seemed to like Frosts men at the bridge for holding out against an armoured division with just a battalion of light infantry.
Patton
>German general Günther Blumentritt, a key planner of the invasions of France and Poland, wrote in a study for the U.S. Army after the war, “We regarded General Patton extremely highly as the most aggressive Panzer General of the Allies, a man of incredible initiative and lightning-like action…. His operations impressed us enormously, probably because he came closest to our own concept of the classical military commander.”
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Lee (Dixie in general)
This isn't best example, but most officers had extreme respect for their opponents in the ACW.
>Custer and other Union officers purchased from McLean the furnishings of the room Lee and Grant met in as souvenirs, emptying it of furniture. Grant soon visited the Confederate army, and then he and Lee sat on the McLean home's porch and met with visitors such as Longstreet and George Pickett before the two men left for their capitals.[20]:375
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George Washington
>Throughout the world, people admired Washington and were saddened by his death. In the United States, memorial processions were held in major cities and thousands wore mourning clothes for months. Martha Washington wore a black mourning cape for one year. In France, First Consul Napoleon Bonaparte ordered ten days of mourning throughout the country.[215] Ships of the British Royal Navy's Channel Fleet lowered their flags to half mast to honor his passing.[216]
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Look up Saladin and Richard during the 3rd Crusade.
Uesugi Kenshin and Takeda Shingen
>What followed was the beginning of a rivalry which became legendary. In the first conflict between the two, both Uesugi Kenshin and Takeda Shingen were very cautious, only committing themselves to indecisive skirmishes. Over the years, there would eventually be a total number of five such engagements at the famous site of Kawanakajima (1553–1564), though only the fourth would prove to be a serious, all-out battle between the two.
>In Kōyō Gunkan (a record of the military exploits of the Takeda family) there is one of the most famous instances of single combat in samurai history; during this battle, Kenshin managed to ride up to Shingen and slashed at him with his sword. Shingen fended off the blows with his iron war fan or tessen. Kenshin failed to finish Shingen off before a Takeda retainer drove him away. Shingen made a counter-attack and the Uesugi army retreated.
>In addition, there was an incident when the Hōjō boycotted salt supplies to Kai Province. When Kenshin heard of Shingen's problem he sent salt to the Shingen from his own province. Kenshin commented that the Hōjō had "performed a very mean act". Kenshin added, "I do not fight with salt, but with the sword". His respect for Shingen is evident from when he died Kenshin privately wept and stated, "I have lost my good rival. We won't have a hero like that again!"
how would you know?
the whole thread is cringe
Call it a hunch, faggot.
user I just wanted to throw around some bants, but you had to get me right in the feels. You're clearly underageb& tho so its not like you've accomplished anything of worth either
>there are literally cops who get paid to follow persons of interest in Veeky Forums threads
Caesar and Pompey
>But not long afterwards Caesar came to Egypt, and found it filled with this great deed of abomination. From the man who brought him Pompey's head he turned away with loathing, as from an assassin; and on receiving Pompey's seal-ring, he burst into tears
-Plutarch, Life of Pompey
Sorry, user. I get carried away sometimes. What's worse is I'm not underage so I can't even use that as an excuse for my shitty behavior. I'm sure you're a cool dude.
how many levels of irony here
Extremely embarassing virgin posts
>things that definitely happened
>Union general William Tecumseh Sherman called him "that devil Forrest" during wartime communications with Ulysses S. Grant and considered him "the most remarkable man our civil war produced on either side"
Respect for your enemies is easy when they are dead. Like how Virgil made Dido Aeneas' oneitis or w/e in the Aeneid
>That time the Captain of the Hipper was so inspired by the Captain of the Glowworm sacrifice, he wrote through the Red Cross to nominate his enemy for a Victoria Cross and successfully pushed for it.
I’m feeling it
Saladin and Richard the lion heart
The duke of Marlborough and Louis XIV
Duke of wellington et al
August Von makensen et al
It's ancient Roman history, I imagine literally all of those stories were exaggerated to an extent.
It is clear that Caesar was consistently shown to be merciful and thus he clearly had a big heart in some ways. He was connected to Pompey for years and he was his daughter's husband at one point, almost sharing a child. It's clear he cared for Pompey even in his own writings.
Maybe he didn't cry, but I bet he was shocked, disturbed and saddened when told of Pompey's murder.
the virgin bismarck, the chad Scharnhorst
Armistead and Hancock at gettysburg
>that time the Scharnhorst sisters dashed through the English Channel
why do historians think that nothing happened the way its written in classical history? is there any proper reason for this or is it just an annoying meme?
They sort of just assumed that if the troop numbers were inaccurate (which in many cases they wildly were) then everything else must be inaccurate too, even though in many cases there were other witnesses to back or or deny what was said.
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Good thread OP.
>The body of a Japanese Lieutenant who crashed during the attack on Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, Dec. 7, 1941 is buried with military honors by U.S. troops.
The US pilot of the F117 shot down in Yugoslavia in 1999 and the Serb AA battery commander have become friends of sorts.
There's also the Charlie Brown and Franz Stigler incident.
>1939, United Kingdom, Edinburgh, Church of Saint-Philippe, the police guard the coffins of German pilots shot down a Ju-88 during a raid
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>Notice me Sempai Rommel
>An RAF Airman places a cross, made from the wreckage of an Aircraft, over a grave on December 27, 1940 5 Italians buried
>German soldier standing at the grave of his fellow countryman, who was killed in aerial combat. Inscription in German, translated as follows: ‘Here lies an unknown English lieutenant, who was killed in aerial combat, 14.06.1941
I think that was in relation to his propaganda bulletins. If he was facing a shit general, he would praise his skill in bulletins which would make the French impressed that he beat some "great general", and to make his enemies keep sending that general after him.
If someone was proving to be a real challenge, he just wouldn't mention him at all in the bulletins so people wouldn't get worried. That's how I remember it anyway.
>Waffen-SS NCO standing guard over a mortally wounded Soviet soldier and his friend. Waffen-SS man decides to share his rations with the dying man.
>A Japanese soldier was playing dead in a shell hole until two Marines came across him. After moving the grenade that was with in an arms reach of the Japanese soldier, the Marines ensure he wasn’t booby trapped. They then offer the man a cigarette before taking him captive.
>On Kiska Island, after Allied troops had landed, this grave marker was discovered in a small graveyard amid the bombed-out ruins in August of 1943. The marker was made and placed by members of the occupying Japanese Army, after they had buried an American pilot who had crashed on the island. The marker reads: "Sleeping here, a brave air-hero who lost youth and happiness for his Mother land. July 25 - Nippon Army"
All I immediately have on the subject, but like I said, good thread OP.
Drunk, forgot photo.
No, it has more to do with Caesar being a master of early propaganda
Praise kek. Lengfeld was the real deal Christian warrior. May he always be remembered.
Not just talking about Caesar here (though you're right he was brilliant at propaganda).
Context for this?
Pretty much every general in the Civil War.
For example, Sherman expressed disappointment that an expected war with Spain fizzled out, because he wouldn't get to sic Forrest on them.
Most pilots in WWI. An Australian air corps gave the Red Baron a military funeral with honors.
And they filmed it for posterity
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>You catch a cold from cold weather
user, that was the folk knowledge for thousands of years.
Also cold weather weakens the nasal immune system, so while cold weather doesn't MAKE you get sick, it makes it easier for you to get sick.