Collapse of Athens: >Athens gains in power and influence through controlling trade, resources, and its democratic system >Athens fights a noble war against the Persian Empire in the name of defending freedom and democracy in the Western world >Athens defeats Persia, but continues with huge military spending and begins to antagonize former allies >Athens becomes an empire, subjugating former allies and demanding tribute from others. Military spending and industries become central to the Athenian economy. >Athens tries to monopolize trade in the Mediterranean, the Athenian Empire forces Sparta into a war over these economic issues >Athens gets its shit slapped after a disastrous 27 year long war against Sparta and her allies >Athenian Empire ends, Athens never regains its former glory
SOUND FAMILIAR?
Evan King
you forgot the part where Athens and her allies repeatedly antagonized Sparta until the war happens
Jackson Campbell
You forgot the part where soarta was getting help from the higger,stronger, and richer persians which is what allowed them to win the war
Zachary Rivera
better attack sicily
Matthew Reed
THIS, and send the whole navy lads
Elijah Bennett
Who would win? A city and the life of its most skilled politician or Typhoid fever?
Luis Rogers
Pericles' strategy was retarded and the Athenians got exactly what they deserved.
James Price
it took an athenian to tell spartans how to properly occupy attica after more than a decade of war
Connor Wood
It was entirely reasonable and was working perfectly until external circumstances completely unforeseeable at the time happened, like a plague sweeping through and killing 1/3 of the population, of Sparta getting a patron in the form of the Persia that they had sworn to oppose at all costs.
Jaxon Williams
Reminds me of the FUCKING ETERNAL ANGLO!
Asher Hall
are you implying that the US is headed for a 27-year long war over economic globalization?
Nathaniel Wright
More or less.
Joshua Long
Carthage?
Nolan Smith
The good guys lost WW2 though
Ryan Martinez
with who? China? their production is heavily dependent on the American market Russia? plausible
yea, Italy deserved better, but it was their mistakes (like allying with Germs) that allowed them to lose
Jayden Carter
Which one was it who got embarrassed in the Corthinian War and needed Persia to bail their asses out?
Ryder Davis
Yeah Soviets should liberate whole Europe in 41.
Connor Kelly
I think neither Russia nor the US can fight a continuous war for 10 years without going bankrupt as fuck.
Wyatt Thompson
>10 years Russia less then 1 give their current situation. US leadership couldn't pull together the support for a war unless another nation was stupid enough to go full Nazi 2 electric boogalo. And even if it did it would probably loose support and suffer major economic troubles after a year or two.
Jose Taylor
So Athens were literally nazis.
Blake Thompson
Is there any real examples of the decadence meme that resist counterexamples of bureaucratic mismanagement/natural disasters?