A Darker Europe

How much damage would Hitler and the Nazi inflict upon the world if they have won WW2?

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=2k9VKjfffs4
youtube.com/watch?v=rgIeru8ZD94
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger_Plan
files.ethz.ch/isn/92170/GS16and17.pdf
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

Less than the Americans.

Not much. Slavs and Jews aren't people.

It would suck for poles and gypsies jews but be alright for almost everyone else. Once hitler dies Germany realizes they cant actually replace the population of eastern europe and it becomes a sort of satellite state buffering Germany from USSR. Then three-way cold war happens

There wouldn't be all this refugee-cultural marxism hysteria and post-modern bullshit, but a lot of other things would suck - no german porn and animu, for instance

The world would be a far better place, I can tell you that.

First, you need to explain in detail as to how they would won: what else would be altered? And they weren't winning by a long shot.

In general, Nazi win would be the same as Alexander's or Genghis empire: split and civil war on death, decay of the core region, heavy hit against some regions (Slavic in that case)

It'd be a world where Americans and the Communists are unable to indoctrinate the white (not Amerimutt) man into hating himself, so whatever that entails.

It would have truly been a terrible, terrible place!

Unbearable!

Wew! Thank God America liberated Europe from that! Imagine: we couldn't watch cuckporn as demisexual omnikin and read Das Kapital today!

so you're saying the world would consist of many nazi flags?

Look at your post. Do you really think this is enough to feel smug about yourself...?

you're literally saying that i should love nazis because of some photos of big flags and parades

I feel smug about this.

youtube.com/watch?v=2k9VKjfffs4

>find an epic pic of Glory and Might, which shows how everything was perfect under X
>compare with something pitiful, demonstrating the rotten and degenerate Y
>always be edgy
a true fascist. No, that is not a compliment

considering that they attempted to systematically kill millions of their own citizens in the middle of a war I can't imagine what kind of stuff they would have done if they had won. luckily hitler started doing loads of dumb shit and got fucked over

t. ADL

>considering that they attempted to systematically kill millions

People still believe in this meme. Amazing.

>heheh it's just some colors man lmao XDDDDD
>what do you mean I have no real concept of art, i was top of my class at Berkley in art

It's always this caricature retard who lack the self awareness to actually engage in satire. Instead they make a few impotent attempts are critiquing by reducing what they see to ever less significant components, you might say "but user, that' a legitimate critique", and you'd be right if not for the lack of self awareness. They do not realize that is a subjective opinion and does not appeal to objective human reason or disposition.
Nor does it strike a common feeling with anyone but the same cookie cutter type of "ironist".

>look at how big our flags could have been if the nazis won! don't you love nazis now?

by the way, hitler had a terrible sense of perspective, and his paintings were grandma's bathroom tier

nazi officials literally met at the wannsee conference and decided to starve millions of their citizens to death in concentration camps. fuck outta here with this tinfoil hat bullshit

Apocalyptic in scale.

but user i once saw a .jpg where one jewish guy lied about his experience in a concentration camp and justified it because "it was real in my mind"

granted, he was actually still in a concentration camp, and it was a bunch of other jews who exposed him and called him out on it, but the truth does not fear investigation!

>There wouldn't be all this refugee-cultural marxism hysteria and post-modern bullshit
Preferable alternatives to being ruled by an insane Kraut government that throws people into camps for perceived degeneracy or holding the incorrect political opinions

Germany then

>things would suck
>no anime

>three-way cold war
hot

sort of like an accelerated EU with great britain BTFO

Germany now

Hmm...

GOOOOOD untermensch

Jewish physics user. They simply teleported out of Europe to further the belief in the holocaust and foster white guilt.

(cont.)

Now they're off either manipulating America or killing Palestinians.

Hmmmm it’s like they did not go to America and Palestine
Hmmmmmm

>Look at these flags, Nazi Germany was such a cool place
Are you twelve?

This is ridiculous. It would imply that about 5 million missing Jews have emigrated to these countries after WW2. This is not supported by reality, not by a long shot. Most Jews in these countries came before WW2. In Palestine, for instance, there were 370,000 Jews in 1936, and 590,000 in 1947. There were 5.54 million Jews in America at 1939, and about 6 million today. There are about 6 million missing European Jews, and they are not accounted for -- except by the German camps.

>Hitler pic
>During American powerhours

Do you honestly think this would lead to a good thread?

Hans please.....

Cuckporn and transgender faggotry was looked down upon even by the allies and the Americans in 1940s faggot, but nice try.

Cuckporn and transgender faggotry is still looked down upon throughout the West, maybe except for internet far-left/right fora.

between 33 and 46 the North American Jewish figure barely increased by a million, which leads me to believe just a few hundred thousand Jews fled Europe to the American continent.

I don't have to remind you that the US and UK (including her colonies) imposed harsh immigration laws and set quotas rather than welcome Jews fleeing Nazi persecution, so the population increase by immigration is smaller than you think.

A landmass of even greater size, and supposed final destination of Jewish "evacuation to the East" by Nazis according to holocaust deniers, the number of Jews from 33 till even much later 59 actually was a net loss in the Soviet Union.

And in the Israel region, once again taking native population increase by birth into account, between 33 and 45 probably less Jews as went to the American continent fled Europe to here by various means, most of which was through the Haavara Agreement.

None of these can explain away a European population net loss of some 6 million. A

...

Depends on what you mean by "won" and who do you ask that question

Realistic Scenario:
>Eastern Europe and Russia remains a war-torn shithole where soldiers are sent by the thousands every year to die trying to pacify the slavs
>UK focus on naval dominance pays off, keeping their homeland secure and remains a thorn for the Axis
>Germany enters into another arms race with the Americans bound to lose due to the sheer amount of resources and manpower in the US
>Germany eventually goes bankrupt due to their inability to pay their bills, crushing amounts of debt and the MEFO bubble popping
>If America is still gung-ho about democracy and all that, they team up with the UK and try taking on the Reich again.
>war eventually ends with the allies winning same as the original timeline, just with less german, british and french cities on the map due to nukes.

Wehraboo Fanwank
>Germany invades Britain, Soviet Union and America all at the same time
>nukes Jew York
>The Silver Legion takes over the country and USA becomes best bros with Germany forever
>everything goes extremely well and nothing bad ever happens, also I'm born to a high-ranking nazi officer and enjoy all the luxuries the inner party has to offer, instead of the dirty prole that I am

>How much damage would Hitler and the Nazi inflict upon the world if they have won WW2?

Well they would have ensured a free, nationalist India.

Implying it wouldn't be under Jap control

The Japanese could barely manage their own gains and the Azad Himd was rather well armed.

>implying the mostly Anglo South and Germans would ever get along

>Eastern Europe and Russia remains a war-torn shithole where soldiers are sent by the thousands every year to die trying to pacify the slavs
Why didn't that happen under the Soviets? They managed to pacify their conquered territories well, likewise the Croatians, Romanians, Hungarians, Slovaks, and much of Ukraine were supportive of the Germans and allies.
>Germany enters into another arms race with the Americans bound to lose due to the sheer amount of resources and manpower in the US
No guarantees for that, especially due to the amount of internalized programs that the National Socialists were interested in implementing. The Germans were not spreading ideology across the world the way the Marxists were. Likewise, your scenario relies on the survival of the English, who undoubtedly would have lost their empire and naval strength at that point.

Israel gets created, most of the Europe ruled by the Hunnic subhumans inspired by the ideas of Latvian-Estonian Jewish Mongoloid named Rosenberg, ancient land of Aryans: Russia and Ukraine forever destroyed

so just like it turned out IRL?

>likewise the Croatians, Romanians, Hungarians, Slovaks, and much of Ukraine were supportive of the Germans and allies.
imagine unnironocaly bealiving this

>Personal problems

Seems pretty great to me.

Don't post drunk, user.

youtube.com/watch?v=rgIeru8ZD94

>likewise the Croatians, Romanians, Hungarians, Slovaks, and much of Ukraine were supportive of the Germans and allies.
>imagine unnironocaly bealiving this

Quit posting any time.

I mean, I can feel smug about the fact that the dead men your worship got their asses kicked by the whole world and their leader blew his own brains out in a rathole

smug about dated cgi someone made in minecraft?

that's some 'we wuz kangz' level cringe right there

Pol Pot's Cambodia or worse for Eastern Europe. The Nazis were pretty open about exterminating millions of Slavs and all Jews.

>Why didn't that happen under the Soviets? They managed to pacify their conquered territories well
Because the Soviets didn't try to exterminate the people. There were still partisans fighting to 1960s and sometimes even longer.

>Because the Soviets didn't try to exterminate the people.

>National Socialists were the bad guys
When will this meme end?

t.

Yes?

What are you referring to? Holodomor? That wasn't an attempt to exterminate Ukrainians.

Hundreds of millions dead if generalplan ost was carried out. But in general we would be behind on a lot of thing because the Nazis weren't very accepting of sciences and ideas that they didn't like. An example would be how they classified atomic physics and judenphysics and discouraged it while encouraging nonsense theories on the supremacy of the Aryan race.

>europe
The continent is dominated by the Axis, and population replacements of various efficiencies happen (west poland is gonna become german, but the chance of however much of the USSR the nazi's hold being replaced is very low) and certain undesirable populations get wiped out or kicked out, depending on which is easier. Great Britain is either a Nazi puppet or cut off harshly from continental affairs, causing them to become more dependent on their relationship with the USA. Worst (still alive) person to be is a Russian, best is a German. If the USSR didn't collapse, it is reduced to being a tiny set of European Russian holdings with a bunch of Siberian wasteland. Likely to become dependent on the USA or Republic of China.
>asia
Japan is not winning the war, but how badly they lose depends on how much focus the USA put on them. As the USSR isn't capable of invading them anymore, it will take more time/damage for them to give up, and which way it happens matters a lot- if the USA opens up theaters in China to aid the RoC, then China itself will likely have an easier time dealing with the communists and putting itself back together. If Japan itself is invaded, there will be a LOT of death and frustration, and as a result occupation relations will be significantly worse between the USA and Japan. If China doesn't have instability and fall to communism, (though it might not even matter in this timeline) then the USA has little reason to keep relations with japan positive regardless. The USA is likely to have more control over the countries spat out by Japan, so no North/South whatever bullshit, and even then communism doesn't necessarily hate the USA, so we would likely be friends with Ho Chi Minh. British India may try for independence earlier, or just go for it outright if Britain collapses. Either way, I doubt they would ally with the Nazi superstate unless they really had a bone to pick with the USA.
cont

You played that game and thought the world was better in it? Like seriously? Are you retarded?

>tfw that Veeky Forumsfag who said he was writing a Man in the High Castle fanfic where the KKK wage a brutal guerrilla war against Nazi Germany never got back to us

>no pregnant Anne Frank because you fuckers gassed her

Your vision of the world is garb-

Oh wait, Anne Frank died anyway, so this world's already shit.

>hundreds of millions if dead due to generalplan ost

>Nearly all the wartime documentation on Generalplan Ost was deliberately destroyed shortly before Germany's defeat in May 1945,[6][7] and the full proposal has never been found, though several documents refer to it or supplement it. Nonetheless, most of the plan's essential elements have been reconstructed from related memos, abstracts and other documents.[8]

Literally the musings of a couple generals who disliked Slavs

>Europe full of third worlders from Africa and the Middle East would be totally worth it if I could have my fanwank

Guess how I know you're a Jew.

It's clearly more than that. Read about the Hunger Plan. It's not like the Germans cared even slightly about people of Ukraine or Belarus.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger_Plan
There are documents regarding this plan.

The Nazis killed 20 million Soviet civilians in five years, why is it so hard to believe that they just really fucking hated slavs?

>middle east
The collapse of allied control of these territories could easily happen, and there could be a great number of proxy wars here between Germany and the USA. The countries farther away from europe would probably have an easier time.
>africa
North Africa is going to be held by the Axis unless Britain remains stupidly powerful despite losing the war. Decolonization would be significantly harder to prod along in a world where the Nazi superstate exists and extends any of its german supremacy to the rest of the 'white' people, so if backstabbing were to happen, it would be here. Regardless, expect proxy wars.
>south america, various island chains, australia
Less communists, more Fascists. Commonwealth states may have independence if Britain falls. Not much else to say, pro USA dictators vs pro Nazi dictators.
>north america
If Britain collapses, canada happens, I guess. Latin America remains a shithole, Mexico continues limping ahead of its pack, and the USA is in a cold war against Nazi Germany. Expect a significantly different culture war here, with communists being ignored because of irrelevancy, while fascists would be hunted and demonized, making the political situation rather bipolar compared to how things went IRL. The worst of the internal conflict would likely be in the south, with racial conflict and grumblings of the CSA.

So, we would have more genetic and rocket science but less nukes?

>Nazis import millions upon millions of Slavs from Eurasia (at gunpoint) to work in their war industry
>no one bats an eye
>European countries naively adopt a loose immigration policy that could easily be reversed if their electorates weren't retarded
>EVERYONE LOSES THEIR MINDS

lol dats me, I never got back around to it, the overview is sitting on my hard drive

>a Darker Europe
>under Hitler
>as compared to now
Its getting darker quite easily without him m8

Why the Nazis did very little in advancing rocket science and their ideas on genetics were a fucking joke. It's hard to say if we would be significantly further in rocket science if the Nazis won

>The Nazis killed 20 million Soviet civilians in five years, why is it so hard to believe that they just really fucking hated slavs?
>KIAs and accidental civilian deaths are genocide

user, who was taken by both the USA and USSR for advancing space programs?

>Preferable alternatives to being ruled by an insane Kraut government that throws people into camps for perceived degeneracy or holding the incorrect political opinions
Sounds like modern day Bongistan.

Starving more than 3 million POWs is a war crime, starving 1 million Leningrad citizens is a war crime, murdering some 1.5 million civilians in Belarus and Ukraine (excluding Jews) is a war crime. And these are only the biggest operations.

The principles of modern rocketry were built from the ground up by Goddard, obert, and tsiolkovsky. Wiz kid Werner was taken by the US because he had experience flinging the things in the air

When you end up shooting 20 million civilians and only 10 million soldiers, I'm gonna have trouble thinking they were just """civilian casualties"""

Too many banners, not enough bullets.

And Hitler is a terrible tactician. Should've let his generals run the war.

>According to the historian Timothy Snyder, as a result of Backe's plan, “4.2 million Soviet citizens (largely Russians, Belarusians, and Ukrainians) were starved by the German occupiers in 1941–1944.”[8]

First off, Timothy Snyder is a leftist hack who, along with his Jewish wife, have a massive hate boner for the NSDAP.
Secondly
>Germany
>not agriculturally self sufficient prior to the war
>not agriculturally self sufficient after being depopulated after the war
>implying the Germans didn't have 40,000 Ukrainians serving in the Waffen SS complete with control of tanks, aircraft, and heavy artillery
>Backe died before the war ended
>Look at all these damnig documents we found comrades!

>Why the Nazis did very little in advancing rocket science

Opinion disregarded

Thanks Timothy Snyder

Backe killed himself in 1947.

>Snyder
Here is an article written not by Snyder.

files.ethz.ch/isn/92170/GS16and17.pdf

>20 million civilians
>source: Soviet archives btw Holodomor is a myth

>cries

Again the principles of modern rocketry are based on the works of Goddard, obert, and tsiolkovsky. Wiz kid Werner was recruited because he had experience flinging the things in the air not because of sekrit German knowledge

>quotes Alfred "trust me on these quotes" Rosenberg repeatedly
>numerous vague contextualizations and assumptions
Nope

Literally a better source than goebbels charred ass

Are you retarded? The article uses mainly sources from Nuremberg trial (Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression) which is a collection of German documents.

One of the most important is probably Wirtschaftspolitische
Richtlinien für die Wirtschaftsorganisation Ost vom 23.5.1941, erarbeitet von
der Gruppe Landwirtschaft

>There is no question of maintaining what is there, but we are consciously moving away from it and integrating the food economy of Russia in the European area. This will necessarily lead both the industry and a great part of the people in the hitherto food importing areas to die off.

>b) There is no German interest in maintaining the productive capacity of these regions, also in what concerns the supplies of the troops stationed there. […] The population of these regions, especially the population of the cities, will have to anticipate a famine of the greatest dimensions. The issue will be to redirect the population to the Siberian areas. As railway transportation is out of the question, this problem will also be an extremely difficult one. […]

And the most important part:
>From all this there follows that the German administration in these regions may well attempt to milder the consequences of the famine that will doubtlessly occur and accelerate the naturalization process. It can be attempted to cultivate these areas more extensively in the sense of an extension of the area for cultivating potatoes and other high yield fruits important for consuming. This will not stop the famine, however. Many tens of millions of people will become superfluous in this area and will die or have to emigrate to Siberia. Attempts to save the population from starvation death by using excesses from the black earth zone can only be made at the expense of the supply of Europe. They hinder Germany’s capacity to hold out in the war, they
hinder the blockade resistance of Germany and Europe. This must be absolutely clear.

kek

no more slav cuties

Ever heard of Israel and America, my friend?

implodes from within like the USSR in even a shorter period

>"darker europe"

Can't get any "darker" than it currently is thanks to the allies winning ww2 and the hooton +morgenthau plans being enacted on a continental scale

Depends on how he won. Europe would be a burnt out husk if Hitler won in any "Endsieg" scenario. But if we assume a plausible victory where a Halifax-led Britain accepts a white peace after the BEF is captured at Dunkirk and a focused Wehrmacht is able to collapse the Soviet Union in 1941, Europe would be better than it is today in many respects. Eastern Europe would be colonized over the next 70 years with varying degrees of success. Eastern Poland would likely be "as German as the Rhineland" but you'd still have sizeabke Russian areas around Gorky and Minorities such as Azeris in the Caucasus (with the exception of Baku). Britain would likely be neutral for fear of a German superpower right across their little strait. America would likely not undergo the civil rights era, and although there would be a Cold War between them and Nazi Germany, it is possible that a detente could be reached sometime in the 1960s. Asia is probably in some sort of loose federation under Japan, and is typically a shithole for non-japanese

Add all those numbers together and you get 7.5 million including the jews living in Russia.

And yet supposedly 6 million Jews died but still Israel and USA house over 7 million jews

Which leads me to believe the jewish population increased from 1.5 million to over 9 million in just 80 years