The Mongol Empire

Is it overrated?

Underrated on Veeky Forums, overrated everywhere else.

>Underrated on Veeky Forums
No.

>overrated everywhere else.
Yes.

Yes. Mongolboos are cancer.

"Empire" with big fucking quotation marks around it. The warlords that ruled the outer provinces of the empire like the Middle East and Russia had basically complete autonomy from the khan back east.

They were really shit at governance. They're mostly remembered for being brutal.

It's 'rated' for all the wrong reasons.

The Mongol Empire had no ideology beyond an elaborate, extensive network of tribal-Chieftain loyalties and thus collapsed quickly. However it did bring several cultures that were previously to an extent isolated from one another

Yeah the Mongols sort of just conquered solely for the sake of conquering, with little to no end goal in mind. They had no interest in leaving any lasting cultural or religious legacy, unlike empires such as the Romans or Ottomans. The Mongols are far more important for what the aftermath of their existence was than their actual existence, to be honest.

not overrated, but over-expanded, capisce?

The Empire is, the conquest isn’t.

Everything that plebs consider that the Mongol Empire is good at is complete bullshit.
>Mongols were keen on Meritocracy!
Literally China, down there, Southeast. Not to mention Mongols were failures in meritocracy due to clan-niggery trumping talent.
>They wuz tolerant!
It overran empires that had multiple cultures and religions within them. Again, China, and to some extent, the Muslims.
>They did not fight directly! Their horse archers avoided final confrontations until the enemy is weak enough!
Oldest playbook in the fucking steppes. Muslims, Chinese, and Slavs knew how to counter that. Heck they fought people in a similar manner as well, with horse archers of their own.

In the end, Mongs just came to be in a particularly chaotic time in Asian history, what with China divided into 3 warring dynasties, the Middle East broken by Turkic Invasions, Crusades, and the Abbasid Breakup, and Kiev declining, creating a power vacuum among Slavic states.

Fucking civilized retards. Their empire was short lived and that's the beauty of it, they went in yakrieg mode and had one of the most smooth conquests in history, they were relevant for like a hundred years and everyone still remembers them today.

>China China Chinese Chinese
Listen Donald, When the wall will be built?

They were like "lol we just gonna kill ya senpaitachi, destroy your cities, spread diseases and rape your wives and sell ypur sons to slavery for a while and just leave, k?" They didn't contribute to humanity neither great law like the Romans, nor superior and far better culture like Macedonians. All they're "legacy" is a brutal-animalistic tier shit, that degraded and/or massively slowed down further progress of civilization - what is fucking beautiful in that, edgelord kid?
> they were relevant for like a hundred years and everyone still remembers them today.
Your mom was relevant for five minutes, but damn good she was, me and my friends will tell about her to our sons.

This.

Nahhhhhh m80 what r u on about

Ghengis khan basically reformed the mongol tribes into a system of legions not dissimilar to rome, and using this system broke up all the disloyal tribes and created an incredibly effective fighting force. The mongols were undeniably meritocratc, and more so than the chinese, the main thing being that they actual demonstrable success was key to promotion, rather than exams. Finally if everyone knew how to counter their tactics how did they win so much?

Also all chaos amd power vaccums gotta b filled, and no ones ever done it better than the mongols

>what is fucking beautiful in that, edgelord kid?

>"The greatest happiness is to scatter your enemy, to drive him before you,
to see his cities reduced to ashes, to see those who love him shrouded in tears,
and to gather into your bosom his wives and daughters."

Well no wonder it was the worse empire in history

>Slavs knew how to counter that
Is this why our first encounter with mongols was complete and utter shitfest with our forces getting utterly btfo and having no tactical unity?

Their conquests did forced everyone that came under them, to unify into powerful centralized
force and repel further steppe invasions, Russia and China.

>Couldn't even conquer Europe
Yes

Wow, autistic kid you sure are mad.