Top 25 Important cities in History?

>my glorified desert village is super duper important
Get lost, Schlomo.

I can't be assed to do 25, but any good list includes

>Ur
>Babylon
>Mecca
>Medina
>Rome
>Beijing
>Shanghai
>London
>Paris
>Athens

And some others I'm forgetting.

>What am I missing Veeky Forums?
10 names...

Yeah, London was the center of the world from the time of the industrial age until the rise of the United States, and it's still a financial capital 2nd only to NYC.

>>Rome
>>Athens
lol

im not surprised, i dont need flags to know from where you are

Babylon
Shanghai
Mecca
Constantinople
Rome
London
New York City
Paris
Athens
Alexandria
Persepolis

Rome
Jerusalem
Nanjing
Paris
Luoyang
Beijing
London
Mexico City (Tenochtitlan/Tlāltelōlco)
Zanzibar
Luxor (Waset/Thebes)
Ayutthaya
Kyoto (Heian-kyo)
Vienna
Athens
Istanbul (Constantinople/Byzantion)
Delhi
Moscow
New York City
Berlin
Cairo
Baghdad
Samarkand
Mecca
Shanghai

>Mecca

This is good.

Covers most of the world's important regions.

Why is Kyoto so important?

>0 instances of Los Angeles mentioned

Ah, I see we're being aggressively contrarian today.

>Shanghai

Why the actual fuck?

>LA

Eh, I'd be more inclined to say San Francisco, but culturally, LA is (unfortunately) more important.

It's a young city, and nobody wants do New York, DC, and Los Angeles.

Because Japan is an important regional and eventually global initiator of historical events and Kyoto as the Old Capital is much more relevant than the ~250 years of Edo/Tokyo even if global events happened during the rule of the latter.

I would actually include Tokyo as well. And San Francisco along with New York City for the USA.

>no Florence or Vienna
>no London
Am I being deceived

Name one major historical event that occurred in Los Angeles.

>No Amsterdam

In no particular order.
London
Paris
New York City
Rome
Athens
Alexandria
Edo (Tokyo)
Delhi
Jerusalem
Babylon
Ur
Antioch
Carthage
Shanghai
Cadiz
Amsterdam
Baghdad
Constantinople
Mecca (Begrudgingly)
Venice
St Petersburg
Susa

Maybes.
Havana
New Orleans
Los Angeles/Hollywood
Singapore
Samarkand
Messina
Nuremburg
Tyre

>Istanbul

I love how the Byzaboo meme has gotten so out of control people are now using this ridiculous bullshit term.
Its Constantinople or Konstantiniyye. 'To the City' is not a name.

Not the poster, but imo it's the fact that US culture dominates the world today, and most of the tv shows, movies, music and much of the fashion that unfortunately defines that culture comes from LA.

>The first 10 of that list
Literally who?

>No Washington D.C. or NYC

bitch please no Teotihuacán who conquered the Maya

The lack of Ctesiphon this thread is disturbing

>read the first city on the list
>some japanese city that didn't exist for most of written history
>close thread

I thought about including it, but I don't know how important it really was. It wasn't the homeland of either empire, and losing it several times didn't seem to be that big of deal to them, so.

Read a map.

>Heian-kyo
nigga just write Kyoto

yeah dude just call it Tenochtitlan, not Mexico city lol, that's some Castillian meme

Only 100 years ago LA was just a bunch of orange groves.

>No one mentions Seville,the birth place of Trajan,Hadrian,the intelectual capital of visigothic Spain,the most important muslim city in the west for 4 centuries and the economic center of Europe for 2 whole centuries
Why is Veeky Forums so full of brainlets?

This.
>LA is one of the most important historical cities just because they've been exporting their crappy lowbrow culture to the world for mere 60 years
You have to be a total retard to actually believe this.

Ctesiphon should be included in that list.

It was the most populated city in Western Asia and Europe if not one of the most populated and largest ones, for like almost two centuries between the 5th and 7th centuries.
>homeland
When is a city a homeland of anything?
>losing it several times
Literally 99% of the times its been captured, sacked, or plundered happened under the Parthians. Besides I don't see how its a strike against a civilization or state that they can keep on trucking even if their most important city keeps getting hit, more of an impressive trait in fact then a negative one.

Avaris, Knossos

Gud taste

>Because Japan is an important regional and eventually global initiator of historical events

Lel, Japan could have been wiped out from earth by a megaquake in the 5000b.c and it would have had literally 0 impact in development of world history as we know it.

If you're going to add Delhi then you should also add Pataliputra or Vijayanagara.

Pataliputra was the cultural centre of Buddhism for nearly two thousand years and Vijayanagara was in the top ten world's largest cities from the 14th-16th centuries, it attracted a lot of foreign visitors who wrote a lot about how wealthy and spectacular it was desu.

I'd argue that Japan was more important to world history than China, most of Eastern Europe, the Middle East and India in the past few centuries.

Kekeimus Maximus
8/10 made me chuckle out loud

Bolton
Barnsley
Nelson
Colne
Burnle
Bradford
Buxton
Crewe
Warrington
Widnes
Wigan
Leeds
Northwich
Nantwich
Knutsford
Hull
Sale
Salford
Southport
Leigh
Derby
Kearsle
Keighle
Maghull
Harrogate

You're fucking retarded. The only years that would be true for would be the the early 20s to the early 40s, and in that it's still dubious

Because they're stupid and think that modern Shanghai (a soulless business & immigrant hub) in its memery expounded by 'financial media' must be founded on the antecedent culture of some great city

>You're fucking retarded.
Nice argument dipshit. The cultural and intellectual elites held Japan in higher regard then all of the ones I listed.

Did you forget that they single-handedly demolished Russia, a massive player back then? Sure they were pretty meme tier for lot of history but they really pulled through in the past few centuries.

The fact that it is glorified makes it important from a historical perspective.

cheeky

t. Never been to Jerusalem

Top 15 cities in order of importance:

London
Uruk
Rome
Babylon
Athens
Jerusalem
Constantinople
Beijing
Persepolis
New York
Baghdad
Paris
Xi'an
Alexandria
Tokyo

>Tokyo
Kys my man. There's literally dozens of more important cities to choose from.

>There's literally dozens of more important cities to choose from.
such as?

>no New York
>no Vienna
>no London

>vienna is important!!!!

Vienna was literaly THE place to be in the early 1900s you dimwit.

>Istanbul

Especially for art students

Top 3 because these are the only ones that matter
>Tlön
>Uqbar
>Orbis Tertius

no London...look man i know about the eternal anglo and all that but come on they controlled 1/3 of the land mass of the planet from there

Unironically submitting Detroit as a sleeper pick.

Alexandria
Antioch
Assur
Athen
Babylon
Bagdad
Beijing
Byzance
Carthage
Elea
Gundeshapur
Emesa
Jerusalem
Lumbini
Luoyang
Mecca
Medina
Memphis
Miletus
Moscow
Nalanda
Nanjing
New-York
Rome
Sumer
Xi'an

Legit point

>Istanbul
Pretty sure that's when it stopped being important

>Sumer

Eh?

>Heian-kyo
>Chang An
>Beijing
AHAHAHAHAHHAHA

NO, NO, NOOOO!

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

>We Chinese are relevant!!!! ù

ahahahahhaha

>no Zurich
fucking brainlets

>You're fucking retarded. The only years that would be true for would be the the early 20s to the early 40s, and in that it's still dubious

Yeah, not even then. Japan only shows up as the secondary character that gets a few forgetable seconds of screen time in the movie "World History" by messing up with China in those years, but the thing is China was already fuck up from the inside with the infighting between communists and the kuomintang, a fight that didn't resolve until 1949 long after the japs were gone. The japanese invasions were irrelevant to the outcome and only added up to the number of casualties.

Japan was like the atrezzo guy passing by. And other than those few seconds Japan doesn't even show up anymore in the movie.

>Heian-kyo is Chinese

Jericho

Oh no this subhuman is back

>no chicago
???

Chicago's culture of what, meat packing?

>everybody conveniently forgets Cuzco

>Constantinople, my dear Mustafa

i never left, i just dropped my username

Kyoto for starters

I’m gonna guess he meant Uruk.

Man, imagine living in the old cities and not being able to dig somewhere without finding more relics

>Athens
>Paella
>Knossos
>Rome
>Neapolis
>Syracuse
>Istanbul
>London
>St. Petersburg
>Moscow
>Kiev
>Berlin
>Paris
>Alexandria
>Gondar
>Ayutthaya
>Angkor
>Ayodhya
>Varanasi
>Alor
>Vijayanagara
>Calcutta
>Peking/Beijing
>Tianjing
>Nanjing
>Luoyang
>Kyoto
>Edo
>Samarkhand
>Tabriz
>Shiraz
>Baghdad
>Babylon
>Ur
>Damascus
>Al-Quds/Jerusalem
>Ankara
>Cairo
>Assur
>Tunis/Carthage
>Fez
>Madrid
>Tenochitlan (I think I spelled that right?)

Where's Jersey City?

these ones

Die maggot

No

As an American I'm kind of embarrassed by the very obvious American-centrist thinking itt

Jerusalem should be on no one's list, it is not geographically relevant nor has it held a massive populace. It hasn't been a center of philosophy or technological advancement, nor was it ever a capital or even a major city of any empire. It isn't even the birthplace of Christianity, technically that would be Bethlehem., nor is it the birthplace of Islam.

Jerusalem is plenty important. Entire Crusades and shit were fought over it.

You mean Byzantium

Paris, Rome, Moskow, Wasington, New York, London, Antwerp, Venice, Constantinople, Los Angeles, Athens, Vienna, Florence, St.Petersburg.

That's it.

Why no one mentions the best? feed too much roman propaganda?

Carthage can go suck a cock. We have no space for loser empires here

You're missing Amsterdam

Krakow
Vilnius
Belgrade
Sofia
Llubjana
Skopje
Warsaw
Budapest
Bratislava
Pressburg
Kyiv
Temasek
Malacca
Khartoum
Goa
New Vegas

i smoke some really historic grass there desu