Did Jesus deserve to be crucified?
Did Jesus deserve to be crucified?
He shitted himself. This the movie don't tell. Nor even the Bible.
How would you save Jesus, /tv/?
The purpose of his death was to provide salvation for man. That's kind of the whole point.
Gotta blame the Jews for something
Was Jesus an SJW against the Jews of that time?
You don't. He died to save YOU.
Jesus probably didn't exist at all. It's highly debatable.
Well, it was god's will
Fuck off josh
I mean it was his idea. He's omnipotent and all powerful, he could have just gotten rid of our sins without being such a dramatic bitch about it. OR better yet just not have given us sin in the first place instead of railroading us into sinning and sending 4000 years of civilization straight to hell for something you knew would happen and doing nothing to stop
*did nothing to stop
Probably not. He taught obedience to secular authorities, not rebellion.
His suffering absolves us all of ours.
So go out and murder people, I guess, because sin no longer exists.
Would he have been eventually crucified the same way if judas didn't betray him?
"saving" an eternal being that resurrected himself anyway
There's more historical evidence of Jesus than Socrates, Alexander the Great, Archimedes, etc.
Yes, for fucking around in the temple marketplace in the days leading up to the holy feast
But none of the importance of what is attributed to them depends on their existence.
In this case, deserve doesn't factor into it.
It was necessary. Let us pray to him.
Never actually studied Jesus' teachings or christianity in general
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
Did Obi deserve it?
come on, man
The Catholic Church is a big pedophile ring worse than Hollywood desu
no u wrong
instead of typing all of that, you could have just posted that you have absolutely no understanding or grasp of christian theology or concepts whatsoever. that would have been more efficient.
To be crucified by the rabble is every artist's deepest and most secret desire.
He's omnipotent and all powerful
that the complete 180 of the idea of god becoming flesh you retard
Pretty sure there is a lot more historical evidence for Alexander
Exactly, if Socrates was Plato, so what
Make a train track that goes right into a river
Force my oldest kids onto the train
They fucking drown
Blame my kids and keep sending more and more of my kids on the death train telling them it's the oldest kids fault because I told them not to get wet
After like 10 dead kids I put on a mask and build a bridge
Tell all my kids they should be thankful because I saved them from the river I was planning on drowning them in
He literally invented the system. He could have done it any fucking way he wanted because he controls reality but instead he made some retarded convoluted plan so we could jerk him off about how cool he is for saving us from himself
so thanks for proving my point
this is what pop atheism does to your brain kids
not an argument
You dont save Jesus. Jesus saves you.
I know he created everything but it's not his fault that the things he made work the way he designed them
Same with Jesus, from a historical perspective. But for some reason, he's the one people have a chip on their shoulder about.
he started shit in the temple market before the holiest of days, of course he deserved to be crucified
There's more historical evidence of Jesus than a person who minted coins with his name and face on them
This argument is so retarded
Who said I need saving?
how? I thought even some roman historians reference him
being this fucking ignorant of the worlds all time best selling book
I was unsure if if I sure reply to such obvious bait but here goes. He didn't give us sin, he gave us free will and we decided to sin.
Who knew bill mahr posted on /tv/?
gave retards free will
Is God retarded?
If so, did he gave himself free will to give retards free will?
That's pretty neat. And retarded.
there is 0 evidence of jesus outside of biblical text. Try again retard
That's better than Socrates, which no one seems to be dubious of.
They should make another Jesus Christ Superstar using the Alice Cooper version of King Herod's song.
you're literally fucking retarded if you don't know that there are records of jesus historically. there are even mentions of his crucifixion by philosophers from the time period
dies to save you from himself
doesnt really die anyways
If he did something that justified his execution, the Church doesn't want you to know about it; must protect his innocent/godly image after all.
Socrates is mentioned in the Bible?
He preached heresy
He upset the Jews.
No really, that's it.
But he was the king of the jews?
He unironically started "the Church", and was killed by the Jews for doing so senpai
Free will doesn't exist to an omnipotent being. He knew exactly what would happen to each of us the second he created us. By choosing to create us in the way he did he chose to lead us toward sin.
If I choose to make a robot that starts fires 30% of the time I can't just look around and say "well I gave it a choice to not start fires" and expect people to be on my side when it burns down my house
Between the lines
why didn't Jesus just tell a moth to send the Eagles to his aid?
He was a radical terrorist
Imagine some uppity nigger coming along and claiming God was his absent father and that you should kneel before him
I'd have him hung from a tree with a pitchfork up his ass
Sure, I appreciate Jesus in the Petersonian sense, but most of his followers identify him as divinity.
Getting crucified was part of his plan so he could become a force ghost
The Plato version of the character or the Aristophanes version?
there literally isn't. please provide evidence of your claims, there is NO evidence outside of biblical texts, that's facts.
You mean getting caught was part of his plan?
No, he was litterally a perfect sinless person. Thats the whole point.
litterally a perfect sinless person.
born and died a Jew
He literally knew he was going to get betrayed and just sat around waiting to get caught.
is jesus being a jew somehow related to the germans wanting to exterminate them?
lol fukken christfags still getting shatted on by rational spektics
Except that Jesus preformed miracles to back up his claims
Did a commie Jew deserve to be crucified?
being hebrew and being jewish is the same
how do you know?
Or perhaps he was wondering why would someone whip a man before nailing him to a cross
He promoted alcoholism by turning water into wine
they're different because I don't want to admit I worship a dead kike on a stick
It would be extremely painful
all muslims are arab
Imagine the shitstorm that would ensue if they uncovered evidence that Jesus sexually harassed people or something that tarnished his reputation. Literally the biggest scandal in history!
there are no historical records of jesus, you daft prick
jesus? more penus
The Jesus statues at church are pretty ripped, he must have had nice abs. Do you think any of the Roman soldiers took some special liberties with our Lord and Savior /tv/?
That's the point.
As they took him from the cross
I, the centurion, took him in my arms-
the tough lean body
of a man no longer young,
but well hung.
He was still warm.
While they prepared the tomb
I kept guard over him.
His mother and the Magdalen
had gone to fetch clean linen
to shroud his nakedness.
I was alone with him.
For the last time
I kissed his mouth. My tongue
found his, bitter with death.
I licked his wound-
the blood was harsh
For the last time
I laid my lips around the tip
of that great cock, the instrument
of our salvation, our eternal joy.
The shaft, still throbbed, anointed
with death's final ejaculation
I knew he'd had it off with other men-
with Herod's guards, with Pontius Pilate,
With John the Baptist, with Paul of Tarsus
with foxy Judas, a great kisser, with
the rest of the Twelve, together and apart.
He loved all men, body, soul and spirit. - even me.
So now I took off my uniform, and, naked,
lay together with him in his desolation,
caressing every shadow of his cooling flesh,
hugging him and trying to warm him back to life.
Slowly the fire in his thighs went out,
while I grew hotter with unearthly love.
It was the only way I knew to speak our love's proud name,
to tell him of my long devotion, my desire, my dread-
something we had never talked about. My spear, wet with blood,
his dear, broken body all open wounds,
and in each wound his side, his back,
his mouth - I came and came and came
as if each coming was my last.
And then the miracle possessed us.
I felt him enter into me, and fiercely spend
his spirit's finbal seed within my hole, my soul,
pulse upon pulse, unto the ends of the earth-
he crucified me with him into kingdom come.
-This is the passionate and blissful crucifixion
same-sex lovers suffer, patiently and gladly.
They inflict these loving injuries of joy and grace
one upon the other, till they dies of lust and pain
within the horny paradise of one another's limbs,
with one voice cry to heaven in a last divine release.
Then lie long together, peacefully entwined, with hope
of resurrection, as we did, on that green hill far away.
But before we rose again, they came and took him from me.
They knew not what we had done, but felt
no shame or anger. Rather they were glad for us,
and blessed us, as would he, who loved all men.
And after three long, lonely days, like years,
in which I roamed the gardens of my grief
seeking for him, my one friend who had gone from me,
he rose from sleep, at dawn, and showed himself to me before
all others. And took me to him with
the love that now forever dares to speak its name.
god damn I love Veeky Forums sometimes
He died for our sins and will return again.
goddammit fuck you for making me laugh at that
Yes. You can't just go around calling yourself king of a Roman province and expect the authorities not to act. Traitors and rebels get the cross, Pilate did nothing wrong.
declaring yourself a rival king
started attracting a group of followers who also declare him the King of the Jews
disrupting the religious peace by provoking the Jews in the temple
Yes, the law is clear.
several people who met him wrote about him later and Aristophanes parodies Socrates in one of his plays while Socrates was still alive.
No, and that is the point. We all have a cross, don't wallow in pity about your cross, bear it
He did die. The soul doesn't die, the body does.
pretty sure he got back up and literally flew away like it was some prank
Did the thread got moved to Veeky Forums?
That's a mis-characterization. Why don't you just speak honestly about it instead of being the embodiment of edgy fedora memes?
Rome: "no more KINGS!"
Jesus: "lol can't stop me I'm King of the Jews!
kike got what he deserved
if i make fun of jesus because his story is silly it doesn't discredit actual christian history which already happened
Jesus user, that’s so moving
Every good Christian would let Jesus die.
deserve to be crucified?
Yes, that poor fig tree did nothing wrong and He MURDERED it
Get behind me Satan.
Yes, only to keep peace with the Romans
yes he left poor ol' Ani to burn alive instead of putting him out of his misery
He NEEDED to be crucified.
Blaming Jews (or anyone else) is stupid. It was all part of the plan from the start. Blame God.
If I where to found a church that rebelled against Christianity during the Middle Ages and got burnt alive for heresy nobody would care about me.
user the same could be said about zeus, buddah, krihna, and muhammad
Yes. So do all of his blind sheep.
But he spared us the horrible pain and went through it for a bunch of ungrateful fags
Ok. Let's agree that Jesus, Socrates, Alexander the Great and Archimedes are all mythical.
provide just one
Omnipotent doesn't mean that God can do whatever the fuck i want him to be able to do. If not even ourselves know if we're going to sin or not, how could he knows?
Humans are not robots, dumbass
A collection of half a dozen of texts depicting the life and works of Jesus Christ, all from different authors yet coherent and without contradictions.
Somehow that isn't valid because muh atheism
Jesus Christ is Lucifer, the Devil, and Satan.
Earned it and deserved it. Holy Ghostwriter
Says the proof is in Veeky Forums hate postings.
Universal, same yesterday, same today.
So yes Jesus deserved being crucified.
under roman law, yes
A collection of half a dozen of texts depicting the life and works of Jesus Christ, all heavily copied, editted and re-editted.
all by people with a clear agenda to propagandize their shitty little cult
Somehow that is valid evidence because muh religion
Fuck you Shaytan
You're Iblis of Jinn
It was all part of the plan. Since jewish laws didn't really apply to Roman Judae and since he didn't do or advocate anything that might be against roman law he didn't deserve it.
What part didn't you understand?
Jesus wasn't crucified though.
yet coherent and without contradictions.
No he didn't. But that's irrelevant
It's because he doesn't break the rules he set. If he did then satan wouldve won (forced God to mess with his own creation to fix what satan did)
The part where you claim that the Holy Word is a lie without bothering to back it up with some evidence, after spergin out pn some guy for doing the same
you really are a funny guy
It is a literary device known as sarcasm
One of the reasons the New testament isconsidered proof of the historicity of Jesus is the internal coherence of the four books, and the fact that they don't contradict each other
Go back to your awful board
t. not schooled at all
he controls reality but instead he made some retarded convoluted plan so we could jerk him off about how cool he is for saving us from himself
He's saving you from your treason against Pharaoh.
The four Gospels differ considerably. Have you never made ANY comparisons?
Matthew and Luke give two contradictory genealogies for Joseph.
Many more can be found here:
wtf i'm atheist now
The gospels were written by man, due to the fallibility of memory, there are bound to be errors. The gospel authors also could have added to the account (tale of Lazarus for instance ) But if you study the words out of Jesus's mouth you fill find no contradictions.
I hate this picture so much. Neither the meter nor the second was invented so the comparison is extremely retarded
he's a mentally damaged schizo, just ignore him
Neither the meter nor the second was invented so the comparison is extremely retarded
Yeah, that's why they're called gods.
out of Jesus's mouth you fill find no contradictions.
But we only have flawed, editted, copied, altered and embellished versions of those words.
Well, the gist of his message makes a whole lot of sense. Even with the watered down version we do have, he still espouses an idealistic morality with principles of altruistic love, divine justice and divine mercy.
Literally starts an uprising claiming to be the leader of a bunch of sand niggers who don't want to pay taxes because muh religion
Why the hell shouldn't he have been crucified?
an idealistic morality with principles of altruistic love, divine justice and divine mercy
But you don't know which parts are Jesus talking and which parts Paul or Luke or God knows who.
Also, you don't need Jesus to adhere to those moral principles.
Why the hell shouldn't he have been crucified?
Because you'll spend eternity in hell for treason against the Lord - where such sewer rats as Moses' followers belong.
Neither the meter nor the second was invented
There are only 4 gospels
Jesus made a thread about it on /x/ a few years ago
He did raise from the death after 3 days according to Christian mythology and the Apostles were like WTF, haven't you read your Scripture?