Did guns bring an end to medieval times?

*blocks your path*

those star forts are dauntingly expensive that they bankrupt states

Source? Because there is a king of England who had 22 of them build in a ten year period plus 15 smaller sea forts. At the same time he was fighting wars in the mainland and expanding his Navy.

I mean if we are talking about city states I could see it, but not a sizable state.

and the capture of Constantinople leading to many refugees coming to Italy and bringing entire libraries of classical knowledge with them

the Hussite wars of 1419-1434 were the first European conflict to see widespread experimentation with small arms

eventually, they did :((

>rifled musket
Rifle≠musket. Rifle has rifling, musket is smoothbore, that is the only difference. No such thing as a "rifled musket." We're really just arguing semantics though.

>these are totally musket ball hits and definitely not an antiques dealer smashing it with a hammer to add an extra 0 to the price
>it's also totally a 15th century breastplate. Disregard that it is the wrong shape and has strap pins mostly seen on 17th century breastplates

God man not even close
The Golden Bull did

>Did guns bring an end to medieval times?

no, that's just a stupid meme

Gunpowder was known in Europe by the mid-13th century with a recorded use in European warfare by the English against the Scots in 1304, although it was merely used as an explosive and not as a weapon. Cannon were being used for sieges in the 1320s, and hand-held guns were in use by the 1360s

The end of Middle Ages is Age of Discoveries and Protestant Reformation in late 15th / early 16th century.

>antiques dealer smashing it with a hammer to add an extra 0 to the price
Does that actually happen? I'd rather have a pristine piece than a worn one, neverming paying ten times the price for it.

Worn, not so much. """""Battle damage""""" on the other hand can be big money. No idea why, perhaps it's a morbid attraction to objects associated with death.

Not really. Though that really depends on what you're calling medieval times.

Guns are inferior

>refugees are bad!

They were referred to as muskets in the writing of the period

archive.org/stream/manualofmilita00chis/manualofmilita00chis_djvu.txt

In issue, usage, and characteristics, rifled muskets were actually more like muskets than rifles: standard issue long arms to which a bayonet can be affixed. Purpose-built rifles tended to be shorter and limited issue. Now, the introduction of the Minie ball did blur the lines quite a bit, but it wasn't until after the American Civil War that the two had completely merged together.

>Researchers/ archaeologists can't tell the difference between actual damage and someone hitting it with a hammer
yeh ok

If memory serves, rifles in the American revolution were a good deal longer than their musket counterparts. Also bayonets were obviously used far after and before the adoption of rifles.
Clarify?

I guess but despite being historically used there's no real basis for it, because what makes "muskets" different from "rifles" besides rifling? The length? The action/lock mechanism? The muzzle-loading?

i get its a meme but im pretty sure that only rich boys like merchants, nobles, monks etc were able to escape the fate of being blacked by turks

Look at the cabinet that breastplate is in. You think that museum has the funds to carry out analysis on the dents and find out exactly what made them? Or the inclination to do so and lose a potential talking point?

>guns
cannon was a vital part of the 100 years war, of course not.

oh wait, you're conflating guns and firearms like a brainlet pleb.

no katana did

No.
Feudalism died with agriculture and industrial revolution and time of massive national armies.

>Feudalism died with agriculture

>agricultural revolution aka green revolution

American rifles were different because they were designed for hunting and frontier conditions. The longer barrel and smaller calibre made for more efficient use of gunpowder and lead, which were scarce. Military rifles had larger bores than civilian ones to alleviate fouling from repeated firing, and shorter barrels to make them easier to reload.

As the term was understood in its day, a musket was basically a standard-issue firearm issued to most infantry. They were mass-produced and quite long so that when combined with a bayonet, they could be used as spears. They tended to be heavily-built, both for durability and to increase their utility in close combat. Simple to produce, easy to use, and relatively versatile.

Rifles, in whichever militaries had them, were specialist weapons issued to skirmishers. As I have stated above, they tended to be quite short: rifled grooves tended to make it harder to ram a ball down a barrel, especially since the ball needed a tight fit in order to be properly stabilized. Due to their length, they put their user at a disadvantage in close combat, whether against another infantryman or cavalry. Furthermore, they required more training to use: you needed tolearn how to aim them because rifles have a steeper trajectory than smoothbores, and reloading is more complicated.

The introduction of the Minie ball changed things around. It made most of the disadvantages of rifled weapons moot and was easily adapted to existing smoothbore firearms. The first Minie rifled muskets were just basically regular muskets rebored or rebarrelled with rifled grooves. Now, because the manner in which they were used did not actually change, they were still muskets, even though they should have technically been considered rifles.

The green revolution happened mid last century you fucking retard

Exactly.

none of these are right. the Spanish tercio is what changes the battle fields of Europe form Calvary dominated to Infantry dominated.

is mostly right. the reformation and Hapsburg inheritance of 1517 had a much bigger impact on medieval/modern split than gunpowder did. however, sieges post 1453 were different than prior gunpowder sieges as the cannon had developed far enough to be effective at destroying the strongest fortification, shifting the initiative from offense to defense.

>Agriculture
>ded
what the fuck are you eating, nigga?
well know. i heard their thousand folds could through a Viking long sword!

so real answer is know. the development of the Spanish tercio, the first effective gunpowder infantry, is in the 1500s. Pre-Modern Europe is about the 1440s and is linked more with developments in statecraft and absolutism, and theological divides than with the tactics of countries. gunpowder didn't kill knights, powerful kings did.

;_; all these errors. pls no bully. its finals.

>Syrians are bringing entire libraries of classical knowledge with them

Syrians aren't nearly as bad as other refugees.