What race were Prussians? Were they Polish?

t. buttblasted g*rm

Your ancestors didn't even had any fucking samples and yet wewuzzed about entire Europe being Germanic, despite no evidence whatsoever

Not only steal clay and people from Slavs but also steal Aryan roots and swastika.
Are Germans are Jews of the Europe?

If you read German racial theories from XIX-XX centuries then you come to conclusion that Germans were always evil, imperialistic and genocidal autistic assholes with a false complex of superiority.

>the Czech skull is impervious to reason, but it is susceptible to blows.

Their racial discrimination of Slavs is well-known. They were shilling pan-germanism hard. Kinda funny how now they're shilling for being 'European', there are no nations and ethnicities anymore, we're all European now.

>Was man nicht deutsch erklären kann, Das sieht man gleich als keltisch an = (What can’t possibly be explained as Germanic, that is immediately seen as Celtic)
t. Johann Kaspar Zeuss

>In any event, much more will fall away from the German Nation than the children of Israel, when its current form is corrected [durchkorrigiert] to fit with Tacitus’ Germania. Mr. Quatrefages had shown many years ago that only the central states [of Germany] are truly German and that the Prussian race is a mass of peoples made up of reprobate Slavs and all kinds of other waste of humanity
t. Theodor Mommsen(Noble prize winner)

And of course, let's not forget the superstar:
The proto-Nazi Gustaf Kossina (member of the “Nordic Ring” society, loving teacher of such luminaries as SS-Obersturmbannführer Hans Schleiff), pic related his best.

WE WUZ ALL GERMANICS N SHIT. After all, aren't we all Indogermanen?

>Many Nazis were astounded at the number of Polish children found to exhibit "Nordic" traits, but assumed that all such children were genuinely German children, who had been Polonized; Hans Frank summoned up such views when he declared, "When we see a blue-eyed child we are surprised that she is speaking Polish."[7] Among those children thought to be genuinely German were children whose parents had been executed for resisting Germanization.

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Why the fuck do you even care any more? You do realise that these theories have been dead for over 70 years outside of Stormfront?

They're not dead. In fact they're still used.

I implore you to tell me how this is related to my post.

They were mongrelized old prussians, mazovians, poles, pomeranians and saxon germans.
Funny thing is that, prussians were more slavic then german.

>German settlers coming to Silesia since the second half of the 13th century, called the native Slavic population of this land "Wasserpolen", and in further centuries this name was also extended into slavic speech of inhabitants of Silesia: "Wasserpolnisch Michsprache". A German geographical description of Silesia from year 1689 notes - for example - that between Oława and Kąty Wrocławskie "sehr polnisch redet". In Kąty Wrocławskie (Kanth) in year 1641 almost half of all artisans / craftsmen belonged to a separate, "Polish artisan guild". One of first decrees of Frederick the Great from year 1764 was directed against the Polish language - by this decree German language was introduced as official language and by the same decree from 1764 it was forbidden to employ in schools teachers who did not use German language. Restrictions for Polish language in schools and offices were introduced.

>Initially, Germanization affected the area of Lower Silesia - especially all large cities located in that area. The city of Wroclaw (Breslau) thanks to German settlement became a bilingual city. Gradually Polish language was being replaced by German language in Wroclaw, but nevertheless for a very long time the right bank side of Wroclaw, located on the eastern side of the Oder River, was being called by Germans "Polnische seite". Even a document from as late as 1789 says that population living in the suburbs of Wroclaw was still using Polish language.

In the 19th century Jerzy Samuel Bandtkie wrote:

>"The capital city of Silesia has many Polish-speaking inhabitants, because already 1,5 miles from Wroclaw there are entire Polish-speaking villages, and just 2 or 3 miles from Wroclaw there are entire parishes with majority of Polish-speaking populations, located at the Oder River."

Because of women. This is his old paper, recently he concluded that there was no Slavic Y-DNA before Slav expansion. They found only I2 samples.

In a brochure from 1791, an ethnic German pastor from Breslau - J. W. Pohleg - wrote:

(Source: J. W. Pohleg, "Der Oberschlesier verteidigt gegen seine Widersacher", published in 1791):

>"(...) What is the native language here in Silesia? Because rather not German? Basing on the names of cities and villages in a particular land, we can establish without any doubts, what was the most common language in this land when those cities and villages were built. What do words such as Glogau, Bunzlau, Wohlau, Jauer, Breslau, Brieg mean in German language? Nothing. On the other hand, in Polish language all these words have their meaning! Isn't the conclusion, that when those cities were built, Polish was the regional language in Silesia, true? Isn't this thus true, that accusing a Lower Silesian of speaking German language is more justified than accusing an Upper Silesian of speaking Polish language?* There is so much ignorance shown by your agitators**, who complain so loudly. The thing which they criticize,*** is rather worth praising. Honestly, how pitiful is a nation, which is jeering at people due to their mother tongue - people who are not at fault for using it - and the ones who are mocking, have not enough virtues to judge others genuinely and earnestly. (...)"

* He wrote this after Frederick the Great started oppressing Polish language in Silesia.

** He is writing about agitators of the Prussian king - Frederick William II.

*** And this thing is the fact that Upper Silesians spoke Polish language.

Józef Ignacy Kraszewski during his trip to Breslau from 1869 wrote:

>"(...) Germanization even until this day was not able to fully obliterate traces of old, Slavic extraction. Wroclaw is, we can already say this today, a half-polish city, because its part behind the Oder River, near Tum, even nowadays is called polish* and we can hear Polish language being spoken by inhabitants already in the suburbs of this city. (...)"

* This district of Breslau was called by Germans "Polnische seite".

And an ethnic German scholar - dr Partsch - in his book "Schlesien" from 1896 wrote:

>"(...) It is hard to believe, how could such a thing happen, that on the western side of the Oder River, in the Ohlau District as well as in the vincinity of parts of the Breslau District and the Strehlen District, there could survive completely compact territories of Polish-speaking inhabitants, which includes within its boundaries many important roads and which extends in all directions from the large center of transport that the city of Breslau is. (...)"

Believe it or not, Germany currently does not advocate or have plans for the abduction of Polish children based on their physical traits.

Oh, and Indo-Germanic has been dead for a fucking long time. It's a relic of a time when the Celtic languages weren't even considered Indo-European, and it wasn't created by a German either.

>slavic
When will Veeky Forums learn that linguistic groups =/= genetics?

>T*menable
Tomenable*

This guy is an expert, and his theory are backed by solid sources.

>What race were Prussians?
Caucasian/white, just like almost everybody in Europe. Most prussians were Slavs. But this is not a race, it's an umbrella term for speakers of a Slavic language. Polish is not a race. It's a Slavic language.

Shut it, Ivan

R1a is a race on it's own.
R1b needs to be genocided.

Your precious Piasts were very likely R1b.

M-MUH BLUT UND EISEN XDDD

B-but not when it concerns us....
Believe it or not. In the light of genetic research and modern archeology, Germans aren't allowed to spew their pangermanistic bullshit anymore, since majority of it was debunked years ago.

Now you switched from Drang nach Osten policy to WE WUZ ALL EUROPEANS N SHIT, it doesn't matter if they wuz germanic or slavic, we wuz all european so it doesn't matter who lived there or lives there.

Europoid is a new "Germanic", as Elisabeth Anna Kruger said.
jassa.org/?p=10155

>paternal markers that are 0.1% of your DNA are races on their own
So this is the power of autism

Never.
You disgust me.

>White is a race
lmao

>you
But I'm not German.

t. non-white

>Piasts were very likely R1b.
delet this immediately.

They weren't. And even if, you can't say they were Germanic.

R1b is not Germanic to begin with.

Did anyone in this thread do that?

t.amerimutt

ME_7, Markowice (1000-1200 n.e.), I1a2a2a5-Y5384
GO_1, Gniezno (1000-1200 n.e.), R1b1a2-L150.1
NA_13, Niemcza, (900-1000 n.e.), I2a1b2-L621
NA_18, Niemcza, (900-1000 n.e.), J2a1a-L26

Didn't know Lithuania was in America.

>Caucasian/white, just like almost everybody in Europe.
>Slav and German is just a language
Is this an amerimutt?

Whoa, it's fucking nothing.

>Slav and German is just a language
But it literally is you idiot. A blue-eyed, blond-haired Nordic Russian and a swarthy, curly shitskinned Serb are both "Slavs", it doesn't mean much.

>Serbians
>slavs
We are the descendants of the original Europeans and Neolithic farmers, not barbarians from the steppe.

Yeah Serbs were the Ancient Greeks.

WE WUZ ILLYRIANS N'SHIET

You are the descendents of Turks fornicating with Gypsies.

After seeing both Serbs and Albanians I literally can't tell the difference between the two. Their genetic profiles look the same too.

actually Europeans and Neolithic farmers came from steppe
"white race" is named Caucasian for a reason