Explain to me what the IRA is. I was born after they became irrelevant, found this great song though so I think I side with them.
youtu.be
From what I gather they're just freedom fighters. Wikipedia says there were socialist elements, to what extent though? Because I don't like that bit
My dad says that Micks were the allah akbars the late 20th century. We're they actually terrorists or justified?
Pathetic thugs who could never quite accept that the vast majority of NI's population did not want to join with "the Republic." May they rot in Hell.
The IRA refers to multiple different groups.
The original IRA fought the British for control of Ireland, and were pretty cool other than that Irish civil war thing.
PIRA fought the British and loyalist paramilitaries for control of Northern Ireland. They make British people nearly as butthurt as Euromaidan makes Russians, but the UVF started the war, unlike the loyalists, PIRA avoided killing civilians and was willing to negotiate as long as Northern Ireland would get self determination and equal rights for Catholics.
RIRA are the elements of PIRA and other groups that refused to demobilize after the peace accord in Northern Ireland. They're essentially just the Irish mob.
>but the UVF started the war, unlike the loyalists, PIRA avoided killing civilians and was willing to negotiate as long as Northern Ireland would get self determination and equal rights for Catholics.
This is propaganda OP, please ignore it.
en.wikipedia.org
>Since 1964, there had been a growing civil rights campaign in Northern Ireland. The Northern Ireland Civil Rights Association sought to end discrimination against Catholics by the unionist government of Northern Ireland.[27]
>On 7 May, loyalists petrol bombed a Catholic-owned pub in the loyalist Shankill area of Belfast. Fire engulfed the house next door, badly burning the elderly Protestant widow who lived there. She died of her injuries on 27 June.[27]
>On 27 May, Spence sent four UVF members to kill IRA volunteer Leo Martin, who lived in Belfast. Unable to find their target, the men drove around the Falls district in search of a Catholic. They shot John Scullion, a Catholic civilian, as he walked home.[31] He died of his wounds on 11 June.[27] Spence later wrote "At the time, the attitude was that if you couldn't get an IRA man you should shoot a Taig, he's your last resort".[31]
>On 26 June, the group shot dead a Catholic civilian and wounded two others as they left a pub on Malvern Street, Belfast.[27] Two days later, the Government of Northern Ireland declared the UVF illegal.[27] Spence appointed Samuel McClelland as UVF Chief of Staff in his stead.[33]
>By 1969, the Catholic civil rights movement had escalted its protest campaign, and O'Neill had promised them some concessions. In March and April that year, UVF and UPV members bombed water and electricity installations in Northern Ireland, blaming them on the dormant IRA and elements of the civil rights movement. Some of them left much of Belfast without power and water.[34] The loyalists "intended to force a crisis which would so undermine confidence in O'Neill's ability to maintain law and order that he would be obliged to resign".[35] There were bombings on 30 March, 4 April, 20 April, 24 April and 26 April. All were widely blamed on the IRA,
As for the second two points, refer to pic related and article related.
>PIRA avoided killing civilians
But that is wrong.
this is all you need to know about orangeutans
>conveniently ignoring the huge number of provocations carried out by "peaceful" IRA protestors before this occurred
This is what I mean OP, you can never trust these people.
Also like how you left out the rest of my post, no doubt because you have no answer to it.
>As for the second two points, refer to this irrelevant graph and irrelevant article
You really outdid yourself here :^)
>IRA protestors
t.William McBilly Loyal and True UVF special forces
In 1974, PIRA accepted the exact same terms they got in 1997.
The loyalists refused.
The IRA also killed less civilians, as a percentage of the people they killed, than either the loyalists or the government.
>protestants
Formed from men that rose to protect Irish Catholics from persecution (not perceived persecution, actual persecution sanctioned by law)
Originally their main goal was civil rights for Catholics but as the conflict progressed, they saw reunification with the rest of Ireland as the only way to guarantee it.
They did some bad stuff aye, it was war, but they were probably some of the most polite freedom fighters who ever existed. They always warned everyone about their bombs and never intentionally harmed women or children.
Nowadays they act as a community police, keep drug dealers and paedophiles in check and make sure the youth don't disrupt the community with impunity. Admittedly they have slacked in this in recent years but being told by Provos to fuck off away from houses when you're 15 and drinking on the streets is most people interaction with the IRA nowadays.
>Explain to me what the IRA is. I was born after they became irrelevant, found this great song though so I think I side with them.
>youtu.be
the only thing that makes terrorists justified is personal opinion dipshit, they were allah akbars but didn't kill themselves because they're not totally retarded, only really drunk
what a lad
The IRA refers to a lot of different groups. Most of them were socialist (actual socialists not Bernie Sanders) who wanted a 32 county workers republic controlled by the people not the queen. The IRA did kill civilians never intentionally but very recklessly. They also have great fucking music check out "come out ye black and tans" it's one of my favorites. There are a lot of covers though.
> Loyalists killed more loyalists than Republicans did
uhh?
>found this great song though so I think I side with them.
Well then damn guess I'll become a communist now
Why do Irish terrorists have such great music? Is it because they're Irish, or because they're terrorists and need propaganda? Is there is a whole genre of great islamic terrorists songs I don't know about?
jesus ireland sort yourself out.
you should be rich and independent like switzerland but everyone with a brain cell leaves so you're led by whining women.
Ireland is presently one of the most developed countries on earth.
They're not terrorists they're freedom fighters
It's because they're Irish terrorists who's music incidentally makes for some great propaganda.
>Is there is a whole genre of great islamic terrorists songs I don't know about?
youtube.com
Nasheeds are a bit of a meme
They will never truly get along.
NI is split about 50/50 over Republic/UK and has been so for awhile
All music is great. It isn't propaganda but something that comes from the spirit to express something.
Both sides regularly executed people they deemed to be "traitors" within their ranks.
You type that as if its a bad thing.
you forgot the OIRA
inhumanity to man
IRA of the 1920's were legit fighters for freedom
IRA of the 1980's and later were american sponsored drugdealers
Ireland
> Not a failed state
>Irish nationalists in norn iron start larping as IRA
>orange fags get butthurt about muh fenians
>the two begin punching the shit out of each others
>one of the 5 bazillion IRA splinter groups shoots one of the rioting Loyalists and the loyalists torch ardoyne
>army gets deployed to protect catholics and then the IRA gets butthurt about le ebin imperialist Britain and the loyalists begin dealing drugs for god and ulster
>welcome to Norn Iron
Freedom fighters that evolved into terrorists that evolved into drug traffickers like all the leftist extremist groups do.
I refuse to believe that is anything other than bait
>We're they actually terrorists or justified?
Yes