Did they really have to kill all of them?

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Nah. There were other heirs that weren't killed and they didn't try to reestablish the Russian monarchy.

Except they can be married, some idiot says "I can be the new king, by right" and if it happens to have support and money, then armies can be raised and oh shit we have a problem.

One way to do this without killing is to force them to abdicate and then reform eliminates monarchy with a proper Constitution, but there's the problem of aristocracy funding armies on their own and if somewhat successful then abdication gets a good lawyer saying there was no consent so it's not valid and then you are in a civil war.

I do agree that exile was a possibility but having them gather support and trying to get power back was also another possibility. Besides being edgy and killing the monarchy gives you a shitton of revolutionary points with the masses so you cement your leadership right there

The King of England was Nicky's cousin. So when the Romanov kids were all murdered, he would have inherited the throne. Doesn't that mean if the Bolsheviks were actually worried about the resurgence of the monarchy that they would have had to kill all the English royals as well?

That was a long term goal, yes.

but they didn't even try it.

My point is that the English royals are just as immediate of a threat as any of Nicky's hypothetical grandchildren, if the fear is that the monarchy will reform. Clearly, this is not the answer.

The answer is that commies are subhuman filth.

>commies are subhuman filth

Gotta agree with this. Half of them were pissed they didn't get to rape the girls before they killed them. It was a pussy move and was already signaling their savage blood lust that would follow.

I'm sure they did before killing them.

Because they had no legitimacy, it was the direct family. The shitton of minor relatives would just fight each other over who is the legit one. Which is exactly what happened

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_of_succession_to_the_former_Russian_throne#Succession_controversy

With Jews, you lose

It's interesting how one remark allegedly made by one of the soldiers transforms into "half of them wanted to rape them".

Make them show you their dicks? Because three of them don't have one and the fourth one is an underage hemophiliac.

They weren't civilized enough to not rape them

Honestly, in every battle pillage and rape are common, they stormed the palace and killed them. I do consider it completely plausible that they did raped them because it's a fucking peasant mob. Ofc there were.educated people but I highly doubt they would have defended the royal family in that moment to prevent rape when they were going to kill them anyway.

Gotta keep the image or a revolutionary

>WE DIDN'T KILL THEM THE JEWS DID!
Russian Dinduism at it again.

I read they did

>Sverdlov and Yurovsky were Russians

No. But they were savages.

mercy is only given by the weak

DO IT AGAIN JOEY

Sure. Why would you let them live?

Actually they was far more dangerous than Nicolas.

>they stormed the palace and killed them
user, I...

I feel as bad for the Romanovs as much as the next guy, but do we really need to have constant threads about them?

>I feel as bad for the Romanovs
Really, they've only oppress people for 300 years, poor guys.

telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3115053/Russia-exonerates-Tsar-Nicholas-II.html
>The Russian supreme court has ruled that the country's last tsar and his family must be recognised as victims of Soviet repression 90 years after they were executed by a Bolshevik firing squad.
How does it feel to be on the wrong side of history commies?

>already an Orthodox saint
>because to them he is a martyr
/ourguy/ always and forever

The revolutionaries were complete worthless scum.

They killed this saintly woman:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Elisabeth_of_Hesse_and_by_Rhine_(1864–1918)

They had heirs.

after the were dead, yeah

Writefag who did the pitch for a TV series where FDR and Huey Long are Presidents of the USA and CSA and have to work together and pregnant Anne Frank getting saved by a young Shelby Foote.

You guys want me to try and make a crack at a prequel where one of the Romanov daughters is rescued by a guard-turned lover but the couple find themselves at the center of a far-reaching government conspiracy involving covert support to the Whites, rare-earth minerals, a White Star line ocean liner, and a prototype weapon?

No..before. during imprisonment and a few days before they killed and buried them in the woods.

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I heard they finger blasted the dead Tzarina

Holy shit 10/10 thank you user

>no pregnant Anne Frank
>no pregnant Rutka Laskier
>no pregnant Tanya Savicheva
>no pregnant Maria Romanov
>no pregnant Olga Romanov
>no pregnant Tatiana Romanov
>no pregnant Anastasia Romanov
>just a bunch of totalitarian faggots competing to see whose ideology can rack up a higher bodycount of innocent people

Fuck this world man. Nothing but a bunch of bullies and crooks on stomping on decent folks for

Yeah, because he's clearly talking about the entire dynasty, and not the particular family in the OP pic. Fuck off, retard.

>it's not like dynasty is formed by generations of family members

IMO the Romanov question should've been solved the orwellian way.

Move them into some guarded dyerevnya on Siberia, take a few pics of them working in peasant clothes and write some articles how they finally "understood the historical neccessity of communism" or some shit. Kids might eventually even convert to communism, but it doesn't matter as long as you make them look so.

>tell me more about how I oppressed people

Holy shit, you are retarded.

I know.

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They weren't all oppressive assholes, some actually cared and made russia great again

>They weren't all oppressive assholes
Wait, are you implying Peter wasn't an oppressive asshole? Really?

Go on. Tell him.

Wait, are you implying Peter was an oppressive asshole? Really? Are you even capable of explaining your opinion?

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yeah its not like the communists killed anyone
+ they got more power than the tsar

My triple dubs demand an explanation

You are not familiar with Russian history, are you? Peter put even more people into the serfdom. He also allowed merchants to buy whole villages to work on their factories. I'm not even talking about Peter's army reforms or how Saint-Petersburg was build.

>He also allowed merchants to buy whole villages to work on their factories.
/ourguy/

Nobody has to do anything. But apparently they thought it was necessary.

They're a sign you should draw pregnant Romanov sisters porn if you're a drawfag

>not even posting the hottest Romanov sister

Maria is based waifu, Anastasia was chubby and rude

The Romanovs had already been legally deposed, they had no claim to leadership of the Provisional Government. They were murdered out of sheer spite.

pic related

Oh you. It's not about leadership.

>Trotsky is a russian

I know it wasn't about leadership, it was about getting back at the family.

The only thing I'm curious about is who called the shot; Lenin, Trotsky, or the local commander

It was about a unification of white movement.

There was no way in hell that they would settle on a form of governance before the war was over, there were too many Kadets and Mensheviks in the White Movement to risk bringing the tsar to the forefront

>bringing the tsar to the forefront
No one would ever do that. Nicolas was disliked by everyone. But one of his kids could easily become a symbol of unification. It's not like they would get any power anyway.

The Civil war was defined by its brutality on all sides. Did they really have to kill all these non combatants? Did the Tzar really have to get invovled in a war that would kill around 3,000,000 men?

>September 1918, during the suppression of peasant uprisings in Slavgorod county, Annenkov tortured and killed up to 500 people. The village of Black Dole was burned down, after which peasants were shot, tortured, and hanged on pillars, including the wives and children of the peasants. Girls of Slavgorod and surrounding areas were brought to Annenkov’s train, raped, and then shot. According to an eyewitness, Annenkov behaved with brutal torture: victims had their eyes gouged and tongues and strips of their back cut off, were buried alive, or tied to horses. In Semipalatinsk, Annenkov threatened to shoot every fifth resident if the city refused to pay indemnities.

> During the Denikin regime, the press regularly urged violence against Jews. For example, a proclamation by one of Denikin's generals incited people to "arm themselves" in order to extirpate "the evil force which lives in the hearts of Jew-communists." In the small town of Fastov alone, Denikin's Volunteer Army murdered over 1,500 Jews, mostly the elderly, women, and children. An estimated 100,000 to 150,000 Jews in Ukraine and southern Russia were killed in pogroms perpetrated by Denikin's forces as well as Petlyura's nationalist-separatists.[7] Hundreds of thousands of Jews were left homeless and tens of thousands became victims of serious illness.[8]

I don't think the Mensheviks or the Kadets would have been very happy with any member of the tsar's family being in charge.

Tatiana's the one I fap to the most.

>ywn go down on a month pregnant Tatya and eat out of that hairy snatch that's grown wild from a year in Bolshevik captivity

feelsbadman

>member of the tsar's family being in charge
> they would get any power anyway

You laugh about this but the Chinese literally did that to their emperor

>When the Chinese Communist Party under Mao Zedong came to power in 1949, Puyi was repatriated to China after negotiations between the Soviet Union and China.[288][289] Puyi was of considerable value to Mao, as Behr noted: "In the eyes of Mao and other Chinese Communist leaders, Pu Yi, the last Emperor, was the epitome of all that had been evil in old Chinese society. If he could be shown to have undergone sincere, permanent change, what hope was there for the most diehard counter-revolutionary? The more overwhelming the guilt, the more spectacular the redemption-and the greater glory of the Chinese Communist Party".[290] Furthermore, Mao had often noted that Lenin had Nicholas II, the last Russian emperor, shot together with the rest of the Russian imperial family, as Lenin could not make the last tsar into a communist; making the last Chinese emperor into a Communist was intended to show the superiority of Chinese communism over Soviet communism.[290] Puyi was to be subjected to "remodeling"

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>they stormed the palace and killed them.
The absolute state of Veeky Forums

They were capitalist fascist + neo-nazis. That kid of thing runs in the blood (white privilege). Of course it has to be eliminated even if some soldiers are have to be inconvenienced by having to kill children. Soldiers eventually die taking their memories woith them, leaving behind a cleaner world without neonazi.

There were no monarchists with armies attempting to put them back on the throne. Fuck, the UK wouldn't even take them when they were being offered on a platter right after Nicholas was deposed.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Yea...I regret making this thread after I read that reply

>Except they can be married, some idiot says "I can be the new king, by right"

Not in Russia.

All male Romanov heirs come before women, even the tsar's daughters. So all the Romanov men who escaped Russia have to die before any of the daughters would be considered. Even then, many Russian traditionalists would not have accepted the daughters claiming the throne, so it would be a foolish endeavor to use them to back a war.

>stormed the palace and killed them

You

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You know the Don Bluth film isn't accurate, right?

>defends neonazis
>admission of making the thread which agitates bigotry and hate toward progress
Go back to your containment board

It "worked" too. At least for Puyi, who ended up working a modest job in the city. He was well liked by everyone too.

>tfw no one's interested

Seek help.

Yeah but I wounder if perhaps his horrific clumsiness might have been a by product of it.

Chinese always played a more savvy game than the Russians

pastebin?

The reason the entire family was killed was not because they were legitimately afraid that the family would ever be put back on the throne--whether it was Nicholas, Alexandra, or the youngest daughter. If that were the case--why kill the doctor? The maid? The footmen? Were they heirs to the throne?

The entire family--and the adults who followed them; Leonid, the 14 year old 'kitchen boy,' was spared, though he was executed by the NKVD in 1942, in an eerie coincidence on July 17th--were killed because it was the ultimate show to everyone, comrade and enema, that they would stop at nothing: not even the butchery of the pretty little grand duchesses who everyone knew from postcards and parades.

To quote Trotsky:

>The severity of the summary justice showed the world that we would continue to fight on mercilessly, stopping at nothing. The execution of the Tsar's family was needed not only in order to frighten, horrify, and dishearten the enemy, but also in order to shake up our own ranks to show that there was no going back.

And actually Leonid was possibly only 9 at the time, not 14... according to his descendants', his relatives lied about his age so he could work with them. His uncle brought him to follow the Imperial family in Tobolsk, but he was sent ahead of his uncle to Ipatiev and his uncle was shot before the family went to Ipatiev House.

The timing of his death is certainly interesting, since it's from a period when there was suppression of documents relating to the royal family and especially their captivity and death. Leonid supposedly wrote memoirs about his experiences with them, which have never been found. Perhaps they wanted to make sure he didn't stir up any sympathies. Or maybe his former association with them finally caught up to him.

One day we, stalwart communist forces that make up Veeky Forums, Antifa and BLM, will do the same to capitalists neonazis like Bumfuck Drumpf, Ron Paul, and all these swine.

Glorious Veeky Forums troops led by Comrade DeRay Mckesson will take over all farms in the country and have our way with the dirty neonazis until Glompff himself agrees to our demand for reparations and white privilege correction and also that he must committ ritual suicide while squeeling like the neonazist piggy that he is.

We are on the right side of history

thedailybeast.com/cuckolding-the-sex-fetish-for-intellectuals

psychologytoday.com/blog/women-who-stray/201006/kinky-cuckolding-fetish-goes-mainstream

Science confirms all white men will be sterile by the year 2060
qz.com/1040302/most-men-in-the-us-and-europe-could-be-infertile-by-2060-according-to-a-new-study/

Cuckolding is the top fetish for this new intellectual vanguard. Google "cuckold goes mainstream".

I mean it's a greentext and not that long so I could just post here if y'all want.

>this is the future you have created

Holy shit I think I know that guy.

Russians made a huge mistake killing them all.
Modern day Russia would have benefited so much from their soft power.

>(((Russians)))
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Jewish_Labour_Bund_in_Lithuania,_Poland_and_Russia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Jewish_Labor_Bund

NKVD: we must kill the royal family so the whites cannot put them back on the throne
*war still goes on for years*
NKVD: actually we must slaughter these peasants to end the war
*war still goes on for years*