What made Jesus so charismatic and appealing?

>yet all forms of christianity are on decline
That's not true at all. Christianity is growing everywhere but pockets of the West. Even in LatAm, it's trading Catholicism for some form of Protestantism. Not going full on fedora.

Is it? Or do r/atheists like you just keep screeching that it is?

>yet all forms of christianity are on decline
[Citation needed]

They were pretty small parts of the native cults though. Christianity focused almost entirely on the lower classes and was extremely revolutionary and subversive in its message. We don't really feel that because we're used to it being part of the establishment now.

Because it was the religion of low classes. Marx did the same thing.

>Christianity focused almost entirely on the lower classes
Not really. quite a good amount of rich people were attracted to it. Naturally middle class were as well, especially considering mystery cult nature of the early church and the fluid divides between various theologies such as Christianity and Gnosticism.

The Hindu Gods in general are benevolent & all compassionate to their worshippers

But Hercules was mostly worshipped by Gladiators, he didn’t particularly care about Quintus the houseboy getting assraped every day

Social outcasts in pagan Europe/Mediterranean were FUCKED and the gods were neglectful

Well duh. As people learn more about the world they don’t need to rely on superstition for comfort and safety as much. Christianity is thriving among the primitive peoples of the world because they need it.

>Well duh. As people learn more about the world they don’t need to rely on superstition for comfort and safety as much. Christianity is thriving among the primitive peoples of the world because they need it.

Wait, is China really that primitive?

I mean that’s basically the fact. Japan is more advanced than Thailand, so they take Buddhism & Nature Worship less seriously. Switzerland is highly advanced and they take their faith less seriously compared to say, Angola.
Christianity isn’t very big in china

Religiosity can't be accurately measured in Eastern Societies like Japan because their natural mode of existence accepts a spiritual worldview. Same with China, which is why they are reported "atheist" while cultivating the Dao and worshiping their ancestor spirits.

It's growing though. Are they becoming more primitive over time? Perhaps China is regressing as a society.

That’s what I mean. People once explicitly worshipped/revered the Jade Emperor and the Kitchen God and Xi Wang Mu. But these days it’s basically just reaffirming cultural traditions than actually believing you’re gonna literally meet Lord Yama in Naraka. Like tossing coins down a wishing well or honoring a dead loved one. At best someone may give an offering to a shen for “luck” unless it’s grandma burning incense and praying to Guanyin for you to pass medical school.
Bro, people still believe rhino horns cure cancer. There’s a long way to go.

They do believe it though. That's the point. Their idea of belief is intimacy woven into their existence to the point where they can "deny" it while not objectively denying it from the outside perspective.

thanks for your contributions but these question still weren't answered and im curious about them
>Did events like roman civil wars, crisis of the third century and general unstable periods contribute to its spread? Would stable regimes keep it more contained?
>Were Christians still a minority within a empire by the time Constantine adopted their religion as an official faith?

Miracles and the cold hard truth baby.

>What made Jesus so charismatic and appealing?

Well, if you threaten people with hell for not following Jesus and then tell them Jesus wants them to follow Moses, I suppose that's beneficial to your personal popularity if you're a scribe or pharisee.

So, Stockholme syndrome.

youtube.com/watch?v=Tu4fQ2HxdFk

>Were Christians still a minority within a empire by the time Constantine adopted their religion as an official faith?
They were between 5-10% of the empire.

Christians were 10% of the Roman population at the time of Constantine.

The appeal was that unlike pretty much every other religion, Christianity was evangelistic but also in a way more egalitarian and appealing to the poor. Christians wanted to convert others.

Jews didn't. Pagans didn't. Etc.

Jews, Pagans, Druids, etc didn't care much about converting other people. Especially beggers or people of other races or religions.

But Christians wanted to convert everyone. Didn't matter whether they were Jews, Greeks, Romans, Celts, Germanics, Persians, whatever.

This is quite different. There's no real equivalent of a "missionary" in most religions.

You'd never see Buddhists or Jews or Hindus going into some African jungle to convert the people there to their religion. They even learn the languages and write the bible in their own languages to do this.

Islam might but that's actually kill, rape and enslave them UNLESS they convert. Which is more like a clause than missionary-ism.

>Islam might but that's actually kill, rape and enslave them UNLESS they convert. Which is more like a clause than missionary-ism.
>what is Indonesia
>what is West Africa

Converted by trade. Muslims wouldn't trade in the Indian Ocean (which they controlled) except with other Muslims.

It's not missionaryism.

Muslim traders traded with everyone. SEA conversions were a matter of fancy, learned outsiders influencing courtly culture and marriage into merchant colony families.

Basically like Christianity in the Baltic and North Sea

S-Shut up

>Even in LatAm, it's trading Catholicism for some form of Protestantism.

Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-CznckNxrA

Because Jesus was the Son of God and therefore naturally appealing to all people of good heart.

Show me with LINKS,the christianism is falling in europe and america?

Christianity was originally a sect of Judaism. When Paul joined and convinced the church to abandon the Torah rules, he turned off the Jews but attracted gentiles who didn't want to cut off their foreskin. That's how Christianity grew.

>What made Jesus so charismatic and appealing?
That he was the Son of God.

>How did Christianity became so popular in such little time?
Because unlike other religions that are made by man, Christianity is made by God.

>Did events like roman civil wars, crisis of the third century and general unstable periods contribute to its spread? Would stable regimes keep it more contained?
No.
Irrelevant.

>Were Christians still a minority within a empire by the time Constantine adopted their religion as an official faith?
I don't know.

Probably similar to Islam minus the Arab tribalism. Then the fantatic fundamentalist sect won out over the Gnostics. Maybe Rome need something solid and stable to counter Persian monotheism. Not sure though if Zoroastrianism became the state religion before or after Christianism was adopted by Rome.

>Probably similar to Islam minus the Arab tribalism
It's not similar. Christianity is a revealed religion, Islam is not.

> Then the fantatic fundamentalist sect won out over the Gnostics.
Gnosticism is not Christianity. It's a false religion not based on Scriptures.

But do you have anything besides anecdotals tho?

I mean I can admit that Gnostic scriptures seem dubious in their relation to the canonical texts but both had semblances of another mystery cult. Just Gnostics were less keen on being crucified and martyred.

He invented socialism before Marx. Socialism has nice words in it.

Hinduism never really caught on outside of India though

Am I the only one seeing a pair of howitzers crossing a cavalry saber?

>You'd never see Buddhists or Jews or Hindus going into some African jungle to convert the people there to their religion.
But throughout history, those groups did evangelize. Even if it isn't happening today.

>Because Jesus was the Son of God and therefore naturally appealing to all people of good heart.

No, they wanted Jesus because they thought he could give them magic healings - not because he is the Son of God.

youtube.com/watch?v=8A0ZIc6-0Pg

who the fuck are you and why do you keep posting this weird shit?