Pornography destroys your interior psychic world and replace it with a prebuilt disgusting one. All that "no-fap" is bullshit, the real problem is fapping to porn, not the masturbation. If you feel the need to fap 10 times a day, then do it, but with your own fantasies.
Just try to remind your childhood and your pre-adolescent period, at that time you didn't need porn to get turned on. Now, if you're accustomed to porn, it will be very hard to simply masturbate without it.
The thing is that your creative power, comes mainly from your libido. Your sexual fantasies can be easily converted to a powerfull energy to create, think, or do other things. Sex takes an important part of your psyche, and is at the origin of a lot of its contents. By imposing its own degrading images and not letting you create your personal ones, watching porn will slowly degrade you're ability to create, because you will be used to have a pre-made material.
It's catastrophic because it impoverished your brain, you became lazy because all the images are available, and also you became more and more perverted because to be turned on, you always need more powerfull and chocking images.
Porn is bad for your psyche, and bad for your creative power. You should try to progressively reduce your consumption, and try to masturbate without it more and more until you're totally disinfected.
I hate porn, but what does this have to do with Veeky Forums?
Benjamin James
you have a point. but with this logic this becomes true: when you look at females in pictures, you are the cuck. etc. etc.
James Evans
I always fap to the same shit and never 'degenerate' into fucked up fetishes. Maybe only some people get retarded and need to watch babyfucking guro to get off. No fap, no porn, cold showers are all the same garbage with no real science behind it other than youtube videos, random infographics and broscience
Owen Thomas
When I fap I can actually think and be creative because I'm not picturing every woman I see naked.
Fuck you OP
Joshua Gonzalez
Tried nofap. Got ED. Tried no porn. No real change. Currently just fapping away to degenerate shit, fucking my gf as often as I can, and lifting heavy shit. Only now do I get rock-hard erections and morning wood every day.
What OP is saying makes sense in a way, but practically it just never worked for me.
Nathan Martinez
>interior psychic world
Andrew Ward
>he doesn't exclusively watch webcam amateurs >mfw when I pretend theyre doing it for me, like my ex used to on skype when we were apart
Ethan Bailey
Fapping is good for your prostate and entirely healthy/normal.
Fapping for 4hours per day to weeb degeneracy is bad for your self-esteem, test levels and your epididymis (you can Google that one).
"No fap" is a peculiar homo-erotic cult. It will not get you laid, it will not make you "alpha" and has a negligible, short-term increase in test-levels
Wyatt Gray
The increase in test levels is anything but negligible. I went from a lonely neet to employed with gf because of the increased test from NF (plus increased discipline).
Wyatt Rivera
As always, WHAT'S THE POINT WHEN YOU FUCKING GAIN NOTHING?
I've "done NoPorn", and it's COMPLETE BULLSHIT. Avoiding porn is not some great show of willpower. You all TAKL about how great NoPorn/NoFap is, how you're improving and hitting new milestones - WHERE ARE YOUR ACTUAL FUCKING RESULTS THOUGH? NOWHERE. WHY? BECAUSE YOU FUCKING LACK THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS: ALPHA GENETICS!!! O NoFapping Gymcel, just WHY? Lmao!
I know this NoFap retard. He isn't an 8/10 male, so guess what? NOFAP GETS HIM NOWHERE. He CONSTANTLY talks about how he's just gone X amount of days without masturbating, he hit 60 days not long ago, and he doesn't gain ANYTHING from it. He keeps deluding himself thinking it'll make him more confident, or that his "pheromones make women more attracted to him" (just fucking lol), yet his results are NOWHERE.
It's the same lie gymcels say about lifting. "you g-guys who don't lift are lazy!". Even if that was true, what's the POINT in doing something that takes EFFORT when it gets you NOWHERE? There isn't any.
The ONLY point in forcing yourself not to masturbate is if you want to delay it so it's more pleasurable when you finally do jack off, like how people take tolerance breaks for alcohol or weed. Otherwise, the ENTIRE "NoPorn" philosophy is about as valid as the "results" people get from it, i.e. NONEXISTENT AND COMPLETELY WORTHLESS.
Joseph Jenkins
Your capslock makes it manifestly obvious that your opinions are bourne of reason.
Matthew Bennett
>mfw WHEN I type like THIS
Luis Myers
Unless you went from fapping for hours a day to abstinence it was psychosomatic.
I suspect you had an entire re-evaluation of your lifestyle and attitudes that correlated to a reduction in masturbation which improved your life.
The test spike men with normal masturbatory habits experience during abstinence is small and and short lived.
>What is homeostasis?
Austin White
>Getting so jealous of other people having sex that you have to try to insult people watching people have sex.
The Puritans sure did a bang up job fucking up peoples perception of sex.
Aiden Brooks
Noporn is not "bullshit"
There are observable and verifiable changes in the brain of one who consumes porn and one that does not.
I would always like to point out that you sound like a pathetic, weak retard
Anthony Jenkins
I just wasn't 'interested' in real life women because I was fapping 4 times a day to straight 10's in the most erotic situations possible. Sort of anyway. -- I still wanted a gf and real sex but I spagetti'd all the time and always seemed zombie-like and emotionless to them. Now I've vastly reduced my dependency on porn however I find that I get more 'into it' when talking to girls and my success has increased many fold. I think my desenaitised dopamine-releasing neuro-pathways are actually recognising and releasing little pockets of dopamine now when I detect a signal of interest from a prospective female whilst communicating.
Aaron Bell
I stopped porn two months ago. I just relapsed a few hours ago.
Fucking hell.
Ethan Perez
I fap on cams, what is that good?
I mean female only cams.
Lucas Perez
There is literally a whole science of the effects of porn on the brain
Jose Reed
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Joseph Miller
I cut out porn for 3 months and my life did not improve. In fact I think it got worse.
Porn is cheating for sure. And I think it makes you look at a woman and immediately think sex, which almost always makes dating go poorly.
I'm skeptical of anti-porn research as it's almost always funded by Christians with an agenda, but time will tell what effects electronic sex has had on the human brain and society in general.
Liam Ward
>I cut out porn for 3 months and my life did not improve. In fact I think it got worse.
uh huh....
Dominic Martin
Most girls in porn aren't even 10's though. You find loads of more attractive girls in real life, and many with sexy features that are pretty rare in the porn industry. (especially high cheek bones, cute awkwardness, even super-pears if you're high-test like me)
Jayden Robinson
>not watching POV porn
nigga what the fuck
Jose Wood
> It is a sickness of the soul that drives many to suicide, transforming its worst sufferers, like Ted Bundy and Gary Bishop, into serial killers.
I agree with the point of the article but calling htis bit somewhat overwrought is putting it mildly.
Grayson Phillips
Is jerking off to hot girls (like the one OP posted) considered porn?
Kayden Clark
I thought this was going to be a stealth feet thread. I am sorely disappointed.
Josiah Sullivan
BEST THREAD ON Veeky Forums MUST READ 10/10 WOULD READ AGAIN WELL DONE OP COULD ONLY BE BETTER IF I WAS HIGH OR DRUNK
Evan Torres
OP legitimately believes and thinks about the impact on the universe before jerking off.
thats pretty deep
Alexander Walker
What if you fap exclusively to erotica
Tell me what do fit.
Justin Gray
So one wank in 60ish days. Not bad. Doesn't matter if you relapsed, you've already weakened your neurological addiction bruh, do it again and this time it'll be easier. Porn warped my idea of the perfect girl to super bimbo sluts with fake balloon titties tho.
Connor Bell
op don't listen to the haters, they're just brainwashed. keep preaching the good word
Ryder Howard
>tfw sister, mother and gf are pornstars >father, brother and me too >involuntarily >raped actually >tfw hate porn >tfw love gf >hold her tight >tell her everythings gonne be alright >"as long as you're by my side" >"this night and every night x" >tfw don't need porn, just love
Samuel Cox
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER
Oliver Turner
thanks OP for the great and informative links, truly a thread worthy of Veeky Forums too bad these degenerates can't appreciate it
