How did Russia betray Poland?

>Russia betrayed us in 1939

In order to be betrayed, the betrayer has to be your ally first. But Poland had in the 1930s(and in every moment of history) an absolute seething hatred for Russia treated it as more of an enemy than Germany. So in reality, its more accurate to say that Hitler betrayed Poland rather than the Russians betraying it.

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They had a non-aggression pact. It is betrayal.

Because "Russia", yet USSR wasn't Russia.
Partitions were "treason" perhaps, but some Slavic brotherhood wankery didn't exist back then, and Polish nobility literally LARPed as "Sarmatians".
So fuck them, they always screech about how evil Russians attacked them, yet it was Poles and Lithuanians who invaded us first.

And hitler had a NAP with Pilsudski. Even then Poland is the eternal archenemy of russia that had ambitions of conquering it like they conquered Russia in 1610 so why show friendliness with a state whose people think your people and subhuman and want you dead either way?

The fruits of the new Polish borders are still good today in that they gave us Belarus, but bad in that they gave us Western Ukraine.

Pierdol się, moskal, bękart, syn dziwki

pshee psheee

>Poland conquers Russia
Polish gloat about how they're rightful rulers over worthless mongoloid subhumans

>Poland gets conquered by Russia
Polish are butthurt and claim they're the world's biggest victim and the christ of europe while the Russians are imperialist brutes who betrayed poland.

Both countries betrayed poland by breaking their pacts.

How does it feel that you'll never catholicize russia?

Pretty much. They are just butthurt because they failed and we succeeded (to some level lol). It's just inferiority complex. That's why they hate Russians more than Germans.

Out of curiosity, why would stalin want an NAP with Poland? The 2 countries had absolutely conflicting interests.

And why you think we want to Colonize sub human filth?

zszszzcz czclwowcz czszelszeszcz wiwcz

>Its so sad Muscovy exists they're mongoloid scum who don't deserve to exist its a tragedy that PLC never conquered moskal peasants and destroyed their worthless culture
Poles every other thread

Why do you think Russians want to rule over worthless pszek animals instead of just taking the Rus territories stolen by them?

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Because he was surrounded by enemies. Stalin was absolutely paranoid about poles and was killing ethnic poles in the ussr. He feared a polish-german invasion (which was something nazis did want at some point), while also needing to be prepared for a possible japanese attack from manchuria. He was more than happy to avoid the possibility of an invasion from poland.

What's bad about breaking a pact with a country that sees you as an enemy either way?

Don't sign a pact then.

>Killing ethnic poles in the USSR
>Implying there were even poles in eastern Belarus and Ukraine

Why werent Rokossowski and Viszinsky killed too?

by that logic Germany could invade Poland every other year and get away with it.

>which was something nazis did want at some point

So his fears were justified and he wasn't paranoid?

Yes. Its better to vanquish an eternal enemy for good.

Youre statement is true , I do not see problem here.

There were.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Operation_of_the_NKVD

>Why werent Rokossowski and Viszinsky killed too?
Stalin wasn't looking to wipe every single pole like hitler.

It was something nazis wanted, not poland. And certainly not random poles in the ussr.

By that logic poland betrayed the USSR by invading western belarus and ukraine in 1920.

What pact did they break?

The Warsaw Pact.

Pilsudski was very friendly with germany, so the Polish government could've considered it. Especially of the other western powers who were also anti-soviet approved, which they had a possibility to do.

Then thank orthodox jesus that Catherine partitioned you. Its a good thing that the szlachta doesn't exist(except in the wet dreams of poles) and that Kievan Rus is once again east slavic and orthodox.

Being a vassal.

How does it feel that Muscovy contributed far more to science(especially space exploration and aviation) than you?

>destroys your dreams

> > Russia betrayed us in 1939
> In order to be betrayed, the betrayer has to be your ally first.

Except Poles don’t think that way, the Russians and Germans attacked Poland, they didn’t “betray” them.

Poland will live forever, and God will kill you for youre heresy you bastards. That is all

Orthodoxy is the truest most moral form of christianity christianity compared to (((catholicism))). The humility and forgiveness of Russians compared to the arrogance and brutality of poles is a testament to this.

>Poland will live forever
So will orthodox Rus

Like US “””””allies””””?

>How does it feel that Muscovy contributed far more to science(especially space exploration and aviation) than you?
India has better space program than Switzerland, guess where I would prefer to live.

So?

Because it ruins your reputation and creates a precedent. Everyone else in the world now knows that your promises aren’t worth the paper their printed on. This is really basic shit.

The USSR had a ruined reputation to begin with so it was never a problem. Also who ever trusted the USSR in its history besides other left wing states?

>Also who ever trusted the USSR in its history besides other left wing states?
I mean.... those states were right to trust the USSR because they received aid from them constantly.

Their reputation obviously wasn’t that ruined if other countries were agreeing to non aggression pacts.

I agree I don't know who ever says that. Probably no one but I heard the version about stab in the back. As in attacking your neighbor.

Hehehe who told you this lie? Humility and forgiveness are human emotion and Russians is not Human. And Orthodoxy is a heresy and false teaching, you may see this in the conditions of those shit holes

Nie I do not think so

They will do neither idiot

He really didn't like Hitler and would prefer to see him removed. It's unkown what he would choose as his idea of a faction of independent states in central Europe failed and he didn't trust Germany or UK. His successors rejected Hitler's offer thinking the alliance with Britain and France would discourage him.

We are use to being in middle of two peaces of shit, it is fine.

People generally know not to confuse Russia and Bolshevik international Soviet Union. It wasn't until later probably after 1956 that USSR became more Russo-centric.

We hate you more becaause you destroyed us more and for longer time.

The only time Russia destroyed poland was the partition. Meanwhile germany constantly raped west poland since the early middle ages and is currently raping entire poland economically.

Historically it's clear that Russia is the biggest rival of Poland with main theatre of operation being the land between Baltic and the Black Sea and several centuries going in favor of one or the other nation. We may be in another period of geopolitical turn.

The difference is that Germans are an actual competent threat. Russians are just clumsy and inferior pieces of shit.

Stalin was a very cautious man. He absolutely did not want enemies and never acted unless he was assured that he could get away with what he wanted to do.

Why was he so paranoid about Poles?
Did he fear the Polish wąŕŕįóŕ?

>and is currently raping entire poland economically
Poland's entire economy is built on German gibs. Usually I hate when people say stuff like that for, say, Korea or Japan, but in Poland's case it's literally true.

>when it's actually Russia lead by Germans

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Poland fucked him up in 1920.

Another liberation of Moscow when?

That kingdom was worth more than your entire Muscovite shithole. Even at its downfall, it was richer and more prosperous. So much that Catherine was crying that the Russian serfs are runing away to Poland lmao

her fucking generals were bitching that they don't get paid as much as polish ones

that's your history ruskie, it's full of shit and mongols

and some ruskies even have the fucking guts to claim that it was "POLES THAT BETRAYED RUSKIE BROTHERS WITH ZE WEST"

but it was ruskie monkeys that genocided their "slavic brothers" with german monkeys

i fucking spit on ruskie kacap mongoloids, you're worthless kraut fucktoys

Can you invade Russia now one more time so it could wipe your cancerous country off the map once and for all?

Getting into the war first is shit-tier. Chinese go first.

>a pole tries to compare cocks with russia's achievements.
STALKER >>>>> The witcher 3

>china which shares common economic and political interests with russia will invade it
>pszeks actually believe this

youtube.com/watch?v=XRQyDcHGMGg

Il2 series> nothing because poles cant make simulators
Chaikovski>chopin
Belyayev, chekov, gorky> Łem

>a pole tries to compare cocks with russia's achievements.
?

polacks literally have bigger dicks than russians

get CHINK'D just like you got MONG'D centuries ago

Wow what an insult spree.
Sure in reality they are only interested in Siberia but the real hub of Chinese economic investments lie west to Russia. This and generally it's just a more stable region right now. We'll see if the geostrategists are right when they say that Russia has only like 7 years left.

>pszek
>sz
"Psz" sound comes from Sanskrit. Are you making fun of us because we're more Aryan than you? lmao

I always thought it's because of this guy
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolay_Przhevalsky
which could be their one exposure to any Polish phonemes?

Mongols and turks always destroy aryans. Besides, russian also has the psh sound

ppsh ppsh

So he actually did fear the Polish warrior.

Maybe hated. I don't know. Although he decided to keep Warsaw the capital of Poland, kept the anthem and the coat of arms minus the crown.
Then again he was also genociding Poles en masse in the 30s (he still killed more Russians).

Then again the most popular Pole in Russia literally murdered millions of Russians. It's a different culture.

And Poles have the mors(z) sound?

Pshenitsa

Check Russian genome instead of reading 19th century books made by western retards

>That kingdom was worth more than your entire Muscovite shithole. Even at its downfall, it was richer and more prosperous. So much that Catherine was crying that the Russian serfs are runing away to Poland lmao

her fucking generals were bitching that they don't get paid as much as polish ones
[citation needed]
>you're worthless kraut fucktoys
Says the pshek

>some ruskies even have the fucking guts to claim that it was "POLES THAT BETRAYED RUSKIE BROTHERS WITH ZE WEST"
Proves Russians are able to see their enemies as friends which is a fundamental aspect of humanism which psheks lack

>MUH USSR KILLED 200 TRILLION ROBERT CONQUEST SAYS SO

And stalin killed the generals responsible for the defeat

You clearly do not know the power of Polish Persuasion.

Orthodoxy:
>Equality between churches
>harmony between church and state
>can read the bible in own language
>One monastic doctrine stretching to the original monks
>religious tolerance
>Priests can marry
>Go to heaven with good deeds

Catholics:
>Celibate pedophile priests
>God know how many money lending monastic (((orders)))
>Murders other christians
>Have to suck the Pope's dick and pay him taxes
>(((purgatory)))
>(((indulgences)))

>you may see this in the conditions of those shit holes
>I'm right cuz I'm richer
typical (((c*tholic)))

Also by that logic catholicism is a heresy because Protestant Norway is richer than Poland.

Budyonny was too cool to kill.

yes russian people and culture is asiatic so it is death obsessed and has no morality. They are a sick people. It makes sense we should have seen it coming and colonized there culture and peoples into superiour Polish culture. Sad to see.

>Partitions were "treason" perhaps
What's treasonous about partitions, we were at odds for centuries at that point?

>her fucking generals were bitching that they don't get paid as much as polish ones
>polish generals get paid out of the ass
>meanwhile poland has no army
Poland was a failed state.

Communists are not 'Russians' - they're a bunch of either elites, who are bourgeois gentiles and Jews who huff so much ideology they end up believing Lysenko-tier autism, or starving levies drawn up by commissar ideologues to wage a never ending war against non-insane people. They might use ethnic resentment or nationalisms for a cause, like black nationalism, third worldism, or Slav vs German in WW2, but it is all cynical exploitation of evolutionarily-indented instincts they claim don't exist, and are just conspiracy theories by capitalists.

why do you hate us , does our superiority botther you moskal ?

>does our superiority botther you moskal ?
Of course it does:
>In the past, polonisation and latinisation of the Russian people would have been to the ruin of its spiritual self-existence, its national visage. Poland descended upon the Russian East with a sense of its own cultural superiourity. The Russian spiritual type seemed to the Polish not some other spiritual type, but simply a lower and non-cultural condition.

>Altogether different is the Polish soul. The Polish soul -- is aristocratic and individualistic to the point of morbidity, in it so powerful is not only the sense of honour, connected with the knight-chivalrant culture unknown to Russia, but also an obdurate ambition. This is the most refined and elegant soul within Slavdom, drowning in its own suffering fate. Pathetic to the point of affectation. The mannerisms of the Polish soul always strike Russians as artificially elegant and sweet, lacking in simplicity and directness, and repelling in its sense of superiourity and suspiciousness, of which the Polish are not free. The Polish have always seemed lacking in a sense of the equality of human souls before God, of brotherhood in Christ, as connected with the acknowledging of the infinite value of each human soul. The unique spiritual aspect of the Polish nobility has poisoned Polish life and played a fateful role in its state destiny. Russian man is little capable of such scorn, he does not love to give another man the feeling, that he is lower than him. Russian man is proud in his humility. The Polish soul however draws upward.

berdyaev.com/berdiaev/berd_lib/1914_178.html

youtube.com/watch?v=IwwXJ8u7eTM

And dumb gopniks still haven't realized they were wielded as a club for some cosmopolitan, rootless pie in the sky delusion - they ACTUALLY have attached an emotional, tribal connection to a bunch of sociopaths who aren't even ethnically Russians in some cases like Stalin. Jesus Christ. These people wanted to destroy all organic culture for 'proletarian culture' - i.e, non-culture. The lack of culture. A one world greyness concocted by only the most ivory tower-crazed lunatics like Marx, Engels, Lenin and all the other rich cunts who memed this abortion into existence.

>"slavic brothers"
>Pooland

Never. Only retarded protopolaks and jews consider polaks "muh brothers" and bitch about "Ruskie betrayed us!".
Your clown country is a disgrace to slavic people. Easily one of the most worthless countries, whose stupidity can rival only its ego.

Literally the country, who will cause most of its problems because of a fucking schlachta mentality and enormous ego.
Take, for example, the colonization attempts during interwar. Or wet fantasies about destroying both ruskies and Hitler in the war.
Or their president getting kill because one of his generals was a retard who started giving orders to pilots. (Poles still think that ruskies shot them down)

>We'll see if the geostrategists are right when they say that Russia has only like 7 years left.

They said the same thing 1998

>who will cause most of its problems because of a fucking schlachta mentality and enormous ego.
Well can't deny that, but cossacks were also morons which are to blame as well.
>Take, for example, the colonization attempts during interwar.
Colonization? You mean restoring Polish borders with Polish majorities (well except in the Polesie region)?
>Or their president getting kill because one of his generals was a retard who started giving orders to pilots.
And that's a lie created by the Russians btw. There is a lot of shade shit going on there.

Forgot pic.

Did a russian steal your polish crush or something?

Yes, they stole our dreams and Lwów...
youtube.com/watch?v=uiekjno91WA

Nah, it's just default "polski gonor".

>Colonization? You mean restoring Polish borders with Polish majorities (well except in the Polesie region)?

I highly doubt that, for example, Angola has had Polish majority, hehe.