Veeky Forums needs some spiritual gainz

Veeky Forums needs some spiritual gainz.

I see many good bodies in the /cbt/. good stats and signs of progress in the /plg/.

I also see lots of incredibly insecure behaviors here - the manlets, the lanklets, gynos, baldys, etc.

It seems many here pursue the wrong goals for the wrong reasons.

fuck off faggot

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What is a goal to a man burned over a flame. I look at my grandfather's medals and remember his burial was over flame with his Ashes blowing into to the wind.

What was the point of those medals? He died for people to play Pokemon and play with themselves...really...

Projecting your repressed homosexual urges through a homophobic insult. And yet we now know that homophobes are sexually attracted to men. Ponder that for a minute. Open your mind and free yourself form the burden that is your repressed sexuality. You will start to enjoy your life a lot more, and might even find inner peace some day.

“If you want to shine like sun, first, you have to burn like it.”

Where did he fight?

Ww2 he died an old man but it still makes you question. I understand that death is a part of life but can't help but feel pity looking around thinking is this what he gave up the love of his life for.

His war stories made me straighten my life up honestly.

Sculpting your body is one thing, but why stop there. Sculpt your mind. Transcend vanity and the material goals it brings to crave, and ask yourself - 'Am I at peace?'

Train to be better, not better than others
"Today better than yesterday
Tomorrow better than today"
-Hagakure

Why seek validation from others?
You yourself know if you do right or wrong.
Every pushup, every lift, ingrains in your body your mindset and philosophy
If you lift for foolish reasons, you will have a foolish body and still be foolish
If you lift for good reasons, you will have a good body, and still be good

Isn't there someone you want to make proud?
You father, or mother?
Your teacher, sensei or guru?
Isn't there someone you want to help?
Your children? The needy? Yourself?

What is the point of hoarding up riches, if they are never spent?
So is the body, like a pile of riches which we can invest, but what is the point if we spend it on drugs, alcohol and sex?
And likewise, what is the point of having the richness of health if we do not use it to help ourselves, the world and other people?

Worse than hatred is apathy.

And how do you propose one do that in this system

wut? better questions = better answers
work on your info game

How do I beat it and get out of it...this game...

If you consider how terrible the alternative would have been, you will realise his sacrifice was not in vain. Our world seems bleak sometimes, for we are out of touch with history. In proportion, the human race is making huge progress as a society. The media zooms in on the negatives - but we often forget to consider the positive aspects of the modern world - falling crime rates, increases in education, betterment of healthcare, and more.

And what are the right reasons, exactly?

"An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unchecked and unbarred"

as you think, so you become
if you think freedom, you are free
one bound by emotions, anger, guilt, regret, resentment, is not free, and becomes more like that over time
one thinking of goodness, joy, peace, love, becomes more like that over time
that is how you sculpt the mind

What system do you mean? There is indeed a hierarchy of sorts, an organisation of our society in means of governments and such. But this is a very abstract concept. How is this system stopping you from asking questions?

The collective improvement of our race. First we must elevate ourselves, physically and mentally, to a place where we can bring about change to our environments - the people around us. From there, we should seek to further improve ourselves while bringing others to our level. Having a pyramid effect of growth - through a sustainable, spiritually fulfilling lifestyle.

what do you mean by race? also too many people are too dumb and don't want to improve themselves

Where is the positivity? Why are so many Veeky Forumsizens so bitter, filled with vitriol, spewing toxicity?

I've come to the realization that I have to grow. I can't stay with these people here. I don't consider them people. They are walking talking products of marketing campaigns. I don't blame them but I do realize their propensity to turn on anyone they don't like is enough to get away from them yet a part of me still cares.

I despise that empathy and wish I could kill it.

You must not see them as enemies, but as friends who are misled. Don't alienate yourself from others in the goal of personal development - for it will lead you away from it. Accept them into your life, but stay true to your being. If you grow enough, live for good, people will gravitate to you, and you will influence them, sometimes in ways you won't notice.

People won't be moved by your posts, user. Anyone who thinks as you do have no need for this thread, and people that don't won't absorb any of it.

You're wasting your time

Such is the way of the dao

So say something important OP

How about this. Stop pursuing things for other peoples validation, do things that make you happy and do them because you want to. Don't do things that extend out and influence or negatively impact another persons life. You doing something should be pretty neutral or positive in its outcome or mechanism. A thought is a powerful thing, as we forget you have to see it...feel it...to be it. You are being talked about however little you think people care. Your neighbour noticed you looked sad, they mentioned it extremely casually to another person for shits. Do not ever assume you're under the radar. Respect other people but don't settle for shit attitudes or opinions, while being confident is good being overconfident has destroyed many before you and soon to be.

You want to succeed? Could you wake up tomorrow and survive the social construct and habitat you live in? If everyone knew what you do on a daily basis, would they like you?

"Happiness is a delusion of the weak"

Chronic unhappiness is a sign of an imbalance of chemicals in your brain

I liked it up until the talked about part. What do you mean by social construct / habitat? What do you mean by survive it?

My guess is people are hateful, spiteful and bitter because of the life they had
Ive become more bitter and spending more time on this site ever since my breakup and noticing its next to impossible to get a girlfriend or even have a random hookup
Bad experiences breeds bitterness and im guessing there is alot of that on this site

Why is it near impossible? Do you live in a small town?

Population of one milion so its not huge but not really small either, medium i guess?
Its next to impossible since most girls are taken, in a 18 month period ive met two single girls who were truly single (looking for someone)

I dont usually talk about it because people just keep telling me im ugly since aparently its impossible for a guy to be somewhat attractive and unable to find a girl and im sick of hearing that bullshit

Anyways Tl:dr Shortage of girls

>one milion
fucking hell, try living in a town of 15,000 people

Do you know what merkaba is? How do I do it?

What kind of environments do you meet them in? Do you go to bars or what do you do?

Also - do people online who haven't seen you tell you you're ugly? or actual RL girls. Don't let the first category dictate your opinion of yourself.

Well why does that matter? its a ratio thing
The ratio between single men and single women where i live seems to be 5:1 or worse
I havent even dared to try tinder because that shitapp is a sausagefest

>merkaba
this looks a lot like new-age BS meditation techniques. there is no universal truth to meditation - what works for one will not necessarily work for another, for we each have a unique formation of neuronal connections based on a combination of genetics and past experiences. just do what feels right.

if you want to experience the tetrahedron and energy, i'd recommend psychedelic enhanced meditation.

At the gym or at work mostly, dont go to bars for the same reason i dont online date
People online tell me im ugly, people IRL dont and from what i can tell dont really think of me as ugly
In my previous relationships the girls sought me out and came chasing me, hardly "proof" since i cant deny the fact that i cant get a new gf or even laid since my breakup

Don't use excuses not to try something that can drastically improve your life. Don't let yourself be beaten down. Tinder is all about the profile - there are guides out there on showing the best side of yourself - it's like gains. You can find a routine and a diet, not stick to it, and then blame the routine for not getting gains. If you actually make a good profile (first photo face shot (a good face shot, get one done for the occasion if needs be), second photo activity you enjoy doing, third photo with a girl or with some friends socialising.) and put the effort in, you will see results - guaranteed. You'll also be surprised by how many pretty girls are interested in you - provided you put the work in.

Why would you need drugs to do it though?

>work/gym
see, that's a problem. you need to diversify your meeting points. find some new activity - anything at all (I recommend a cooking class because I fucking love cooking, they're usually full of chicks, and it goes hand in hand with lifting) join it, and there will be more chances to meet girls. Just make sure it's something you have some interest in, and go with the activity being the goal in itself. It's one of the most natural ways to meet people,

>pictures of vaguely motivational quotes

Fuck off back to facebook.

Well if you actually want to experience something like that from a 5 senses perspective, it will be very difficult or impossible to do without some psychedelics.

Don't lump in 'psychedelics' with 'drugs'. It's like referring to vegetables as plants. If I say 'you need to eat more plants', or 'you need to eat more vegetables', one of them is healthy, the other could mean 'eat a cactus'.

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This is literally the only thing you need. Now fuck off with these shitty threads.

All good tips, thanks bro and i might try it when ive gotten abit further into my shit right now

Agreed, i started doing kickboxing and found alot of chicks in the beginner classes but same story there as always. Boyfriends
Anyways, i got things planned and im always keeping an eye out for cute chicks but my point was it feels next to impossible since so much time has passed and so little results

In comparison my ex gf after our breakup met a new guy after a week, best friends ex-gf after their breakup met a new guy after a month and moved in with the fucker (AND she had a semi-casual fling with two others before she met this guy)
I know its easier for girls to meet guys but this is absurd

I see what you mean. I'm just over the vain bodybuilding bullshit honestly. It's nice to see things like this here. I don't want to be like them anymore. I see that you need to work with the people and it's time to watch and learn now. Thanks for your advice by the way

don't compare yourself to a girl. I'm assuming you're in your mid 20's just by what you're saying. For the time and results, don't compare total time passed and results. Compare total time invested in the goal of meeting girls, and results.

>Working out to improve self-esteem is wrong reasons
Wat?

I'm still here

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

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im actually in my late 20´s...i spent my late teens and 20´s in relationships and now i feel lost
I knew it was gonna be hard but fuck me, you cant really brace yourself hard enough
Anyways, ill start taking notes but ive been progressivly investing more and more time with less and less results as time passes and it really hurts my self esteem

What the point in being Veeky Forums or good looking if noone sees it?

It's written in a riddle yet it makes perfect sense. Thanks. Appreciated :)

>They don't think it be like it is, but it do
t. Wayne Confuski

in the grimdark future there is only philosophy

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Jordan B Peterson bro

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Never said that. But many seek to grow into something in the ideal that they will love themselves only once they reach that goal. You should love yourself as you are, as long as you are on the path of achievement.

Dostoevsky is the fucking man. Literal genius

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Because you're a better version of yourself.

I've had a serious girlfriend from 15-17 (Yes, baby years but I still thought it valid) and then from 18 to 22 (Now, when my gf of 4 years decided it was time to move on). I know how you feel.

Quickly disillusioned, the world and your endeavors feel pointless at times and ultimately, you don't know where you're headed.

What I can recommend is manifesting yourself in the present. Do what makes you happy! If that includes indulgences (jerking off all the time, drinking, smoking) try to show a little self control. Improve yourself! Like you are, keep working out. Read more. Do research. Make plans for your future.

Most important in all is be confident. You're a young man with a future. Many begotten people of the past could not say this and you are a lucky one in the history of humanity to be given such an opportunity.

Life has given you an opportunity like no other, now do what you can for life and yourself to make it better. It'll be alright dog.

What do I do when I feel like fapping to porno?

In the grim darkness of the far future, happy chemicals are heresy

>M3
>not lifting for the Emperor

Only in death does duty end.

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