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>Let me get this straight:

Muscles use energy to function. The form of energy is a suger-water mixture called glycogen. This glycogen is present in the muscles and upon reaction with oxygen it creates energy, carbon-oxides as well as other rest products.

When the body has excess energy it choose to store this energy as fat. Fat is smaller and doesn't require as much (or any) water to be stored in cells. Fat is made by saccharine (mono and poly) and fatty-acids. I e : The blood suger and blood fats we have circulating and often enters our body from foods.

When FAT is made available from storage in cells it deteriorates to fatty-acids and can be dissolved in our blood.

Glycogen can be created by sugars(carbohydrates), and/or deteriorated fatty-acids.

BUILDING MUSCLES need the presence of proteins, or rather amino-acids. There are more than 19 amino acids, these are not present in muscle/fiber/flesh building but for example taurine is present in urine.

Carbonhydrates and fat are in a way, inter-changeable, protein differ by the presence of nitrogen groupings.

When muscle is created (or repaired) proteins are used, as well as energy from fat/carbohydrates. What kind of energy is used? The stored energy in the muscles? Blood sugar? Blood fats (fatty acids) or energy from fat-cells?

Is building muscle easier with a high fat, or a high sugar diet?

Say If we eat like 400 grams protein but no fats or carbs, is protein wasted example, 200 grams are made to energy to make the remainder 200 grams into muscle?

Muscle-protein synthesis is significantly slower, but not completely stopped with decreased caloric intake. This energy used must be from stored fat right?

Not op but I'll bump this

If you eat no carbs you will not perform as well as if you are a reasonable amount of carbs. Of you eat no fat you die. Building muscle requires a balance of protein to build muscle, carbs to fuel workouts efficiently and fat to do many things critical to sustain life and it's required biological processes.

Fucking autocorrect. Anyways to answer your last question. It depends on how low the caloric intake gets. You need a minimum to sustain life and movement. Above that yes it can contribute to building muscle among other things.

Viewed from stored fat is as follows:
You are in the cell as regular fat.
When blood fats gets to low, you are released from the cell and converted to a solution:fatty-acid, and adsorbed by the blood.

As a fatty acid you have two alternatives: Become further broken down into poly-saccharines, or if there is too much fatty acids in the blood, convert back to solid fat in the cells. These conversions take time.

Your ability to turn stored fat into fatty acids are dependent on your ability to turn fatty acids into
blood sugars and used in metabolic processes.

The bigger muscles you have: the more fatty acids can become glycogen and be temproairely stored in muscles, and later combusted when working out.

For glycogen to be created both fatty acids and carbs(sugars) need to be present in the blood.

Technically you should be able to burn more fat with a fat-low diet.

BUT: Sugars in the blood (carbs) can also be converted into fatty acids. If you have much fatty acids poly-saccharines wont even become mono-saccarines, but instantly turned into fatty-acid.

you stupid science bitch with all your science words. do you really think anyone here actually understands your jibber jabber

It's a little more complicated than that but you have the basic gist.

Glycogen stores are really only around to compensate for decreased blood glucose from carbohydrates not being readily available. This is why a normal health adult can go a long time without eating and not go into a diabetic coma; because of glycogen stores that release when needed. Fat provides energy but in a different sense unless you're talking about ketogenosis which is a whole different beast.

>When muscle is created (or repaired) proteins are used, as well as energy from fat/carbohydrates. What kind of energy is used? The stored energy in the muscles? Blood sugar? Blood fats (fatty acids) or energy from fat-cells?
whichever is most easily available which the majority of the time will be blood sugar but not in the amounts you think. The increased blood supply to those areas of microtears enables muscle recovery.

what on earth are you even getting at?

When you have a high amount of fat in the cells the cells split, the more cells you get the FASTER your fatty acids can be converted back into hard fat, ie fat on your stomach. You can never reduce the number of fat cells,only stop them from multiplying.

When fats are released from storage and or from consuming food, the fatty acids doesnt go one way or the other, they are doing both simultaneously. The more fat cells you have, and higher fatty acid levels in your blood, the conversion is prone to the fatty acids to become stored fat again. The only way to change this is to increase muscle cells, their capacity to store glycogen and change hormones in the body.

What priority has the depletion of glycogen from muscles, vs depletion of fatty cells to create blood sugars? Is it muscle first, or simply both run at the same time until muscles get depleted?

(Muscle stores has to be depleted sooner than fat cells, amiright?)

You change hormones by working out, sleeping right and of course injecting steroids to fuck with the process as you want.

>broscience: the thread

Activities are also exponentially declining. Meaning: You burn fat fast the more fat you have in the blood, you burn fat slower the lower fat levels you have. This is why starvation-mode is pretty bad.

>You can never reduce the number of fat cells,only stop them from multiplying.
I'm almost positive that in the same way you cannot reduce the number of fat cells, that you cannot increase the number either, they just enlarge

Metabloism is triggered by contact by the product and the enzyme. More products mean more activity and less 'down-time' for enzymes. With low products not all enzymes are in contact with reactants all the time, resulting in a slower metabolism.

>200 g protein into muscle
>in a single day
>and that is the inefficient method

Fat cells duplicate when they reach a critical fat-content level. They cant grow large indefinitely.

I think you know what I mean. Protein (amino acids) can't be the sole factor in muscle regeneration. Vitamins and sugars should also be present (at least for the enzymes to work effectively)

probably comes from the liver first, stores a lot of glycogen, or what is literally the same as glycogen but might have a different name because its stored in the liver. the rest im not totally sure about

since we're getting all scienced in this bitch, did you know you can affect the way your body partitions nutrients(i.e. selectively delivers nutrients to different cells)? steroids do this a fuckton, but ursolic acid and anthocyanins also do this, found in basil and apples(moreso fuji), and dark blue/black fruits and veg, respectively

muscle glycogen storages are way bigger than the ones in the liver
however, only the liver glycogen can be used for blood sugar
muscle glycogen stays in its muscle and can only be used there for atp production
sorry for the lack of scientific wording
>Ernährungswissenschaftler germanon here

amino acids can be reduced into energy used by the cell rather than used as a building block, but its inefficient and your body will prioritize anything else over it(unless maybe the other sources are too slow for an immediate need and will do what it can simultaneously, but thats conjecture)

The liver is like a tenth, maybe 1/20 the size of all the muscle tissue in the body. The muscles store alot more glycogen.

1/3 liver ~150g
2/3 muscle ~300g

10% of liver by weight is glycogen
2% of muscle by weight is glycogen

on average; they change slightly based on diet and exercise habits

I mean more like the liver weighs 5 kgs, all your body muscles weigh like 50 kg.

Are you trying to shill for garbage amino acid powders of something.