What are the pros and cons to free weights vs machines?

>mostly, fucking lat PD machine and all the imbeciles who attempt it poorly

I think I'm doing it right.

Not sure which of you is right but the second guy wrote more, makes me feel more optimistic and used capitalization.

idiot

Note I said "for the most part". Using strictly dumbbells is definitely inferior. But as a noob you can still make good gains.

Pros

None

Cons

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If you doing it as if you're doing a pullup? Then you're doing it right. Keep it up bro!

If you grab the bar and either:
- hold it to your shoulder and lean back like it was a reverse crunch
- grab it and yank the bar behind your head

You're doing it wrong and for the good of the land, please stop at this instance.

Machines can get excercises that freeweights cant, like hamstring curls.
Freeweights for everything else though.

dont waste your noob gains on dumbbells

just research and find a person you trust watch your form and film. Start light and do SS.

Machines are really good for beginners. They are safer and there is a very small chance you will fuck up and hurt yourself.

Free weights are better, because you get a more complete range of motion and use more muscles.

Weight lifting is about lifting heavy shit up and putting it down. Free weights are better, but there is nothing wrong with using a machine. Not everyone is comfortable with free weights, especially in the beginning.

Thanks, dude. I think I'll step away from doing machines four days a week and start doing half and half instead.

this ain't reddit. grammar elitism is for people who don't have much else to feel intellectually superior about

not a squat, has to be atg to count

wow impressive you can dumbbell squat as much as you can squat on your first day squatting. I'm sure you'll get really big and strong with 123847923 repetitions

fucking retard

kys fatties,jay cutler squats 80kg and he is a monster.

nordic ham curls, romanian deadlifts

fpbp

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>Veeky Forums
>Oh man, I have a snapcity and I can never lift again, why even live anymore.
>that thread every other day
>yet will attack newbies for even considering using machines.

Never change fit.

no one said you could never use machines, you should strive to use free weights whenever and wherever possible.

show me one attack here

everyone fucking uses machines

Free weights:
+stabilizers and synergists get worked out too.
+more muscle mass trained per exercise so you have more efficient workouts.
+strengthens joints, tendons and bones more than machines.
+gives you better muscle coordination.
+fundamental compounds translate into lots of RL situations.
+has a more positive effect on hormonal levels.
+more left ventricular hypertrophy.
-one bout of unlucky ego lifting and you're done - for the day, week, month or for life.
-temporarily increases blood pressure, not good if you have medical problems.

Machines:
+Much better at isolating one muscle at a time, that's why even a lot of compound junkies use them as finishers.
+Safer for kids and old geezers.
-Need to hit a lot of machines to get all the muscles.
-Greater potential for long term imbalances and weak links.
-Doesn't teach a lot of muscle coordination.

Cable machines are cool. The others, usually not.

Those "3D" incline chest press things are pretty decent.
Those Italian biceps curl things with rotating and telescoping handles are goat.
Obliques twist machine is much preferable to doing russian twists for me.

My gym is shit and doesn't have barbells

Can SS work with dumbbells?

Can't afford anything other than planet fitness?

It's the only place around here that's open when I can/want to work out which is around 11 PM and 5 AM. I've been trying to get into the habit of going at least once a day but have been doing twice a day mostly, usually doing cardio in the morning when I get up and off days doing weights when I get off work which is usually around 8 or 9.

I'm usually the only one there at both times aside from the guy at the front desk.