>youngest general in french history >massacred the stupid French mob when they got uppity >conquered northern italy in a year >destroyed the disgusting, treacherous republic of venice, avenging 1204 >conquered egypt in a couple of months >survived an ides of march recreation by the french senate >fucked whatever bitch he wanted >took the crown out of the pope's hand and crowned himself, the absolute madman >regularly larped as charlemagne and julius caesar >austerlitz: greatest victory of all time >took a shit on the """"holy roman empire"""" and destroyed it >btfo all of europe for a decade >biggest empire since charlemagne >biggest army ever until world war 1 >conquered and occupied the capitals of europe's three greatest continental powers >won six victories in six days while massively outnumbered >gets exiled... escapes >retakes all of france without firing a shot >europe is so scared of him they exile him to the remotest place on earth to contain the mad lad
Was Napoleon the most badass motherfucker that ever lived, Veeky Forums?
he was superb,yet pissed too many people off as a statesman and i remember his humble brag that Fredrick the Great he wasn't implying that he wouldn't reached Berlin if the superb homo was alive,it's more akin that Berlin wouldn't have a tomb to house his body and there was gonna be no legacy
Austin Collins
really makes you think Hitler the Fuhrer truely was the last Emperor of Rome (etc). Napolean his predecessor.
Colton Cruz
>beats him by burning Moscow, leaving frenchies without any supplies The madman did it.
Levi Mitchell
Yes he was
> He did all that against coalitions of countries almost at the same economic and technological level > Restored the economy of a country in the midst of a civil war to make it the most economically powerful country > The organization of all the armies of the world is inspired by him >he created the council of state, the prefectural body, the chamber of commerce, Paris stock exchange and the bank of France always up to date. > The civil code which he dictated the outline is used in half of the world > the current French education system is also his work >Even the numbering of streets that we find in a lot of countries is his work
Lincoln Myers
are you having a stroke?
Landon Barnes
>Napoleon will never finish conquering all of middle east for his empire >Napoleon will never pressure Russia to give up and create(set free) buffer states of Poland, Lithuania, Ukrainian Cossacks etc. and demand Russian nobility to free all serfs in 1820's. >Napoleon will never unify European continental system, creating a new French Roman Empire which lands stretch to the very India just like Alexander's the Great's conquest >Napoleon will never just give all of european colonial possessions of Americas to newly created USA, just for the revolutionary lulz. >Napoleon will never set his gaze on Conquest of Ottoman Empire and free all of Balkans and retake Constantinople, crowning himself as a new Byzantine Emperor, therefore official continuation emperor of Roman Empire. >Napoleon will never make Paris his Third Rome >Napoleon will never invade roastbeef island and exterminate all of inbred anglos, freeing world from their evil >Napoleon will never make all germanic states(except Prussia) his personal slaves. What a boring timeline we live in... Why isn't Napoleon canonized as a Saint and not given title "The Great" ? He is literally better than God! youtube.com/watch?v=2RohHZbQ5po
Grayson Cooper
>Why isn't Napoleon canonized as a Saint
Probably because he arrested a Pope for talking shit about him.
Jordan King
>comparing SHITler to Napoleon.
Joseph Perez
BASED! Papacy is a heresy cult run by pedos and satanists. Emperor of France is true regent of God!
Michael Collins
Some French philosophers and writers wanted to prophesy him Whenever there was a rumor of his "return" from Saint-Helene, it provoked riots throughout France
Nicholas Clark
You forgot the part where the coalition did not declare war on France. They declared war on HIM
Connor Perez
>literally all of europe declares war on one man >he still almost wins
The absolute fucking mad man.
Lucas Reyes
>tfw after your death, people are prophesying you as a great saviour and are ready to start a revolution even tho you're already dead How can one Chad-man be such a God???
Luke Flores
>French empire will never encompass all territories of Roman Empire and Macedonian Empire at the same time, even tho there was literally a chance It hurts so much...
Caleb Ortiz
>natural borders
Luke Fisher
you forgot his best and most enduring feat
spreading the Napoleonic Code that would find it's way to most of the World's legal systems
Austin Myers
German BGB was vastly superior tbf even though it was a century late
Jordan Robinson
I'm from eastern europe desu and I still get a leaky boner when I read about his return from Elba. He truly was one of a kind. Very glorious, almost unbelievable how one man can achieve all that in a single lifetime.
Nathaniel Jackson
>fucked whatever bitch he wanted He was beta cuck
Julian Sanders
You're a beta cuck remember?? You have to stop confusing yourself with napoleon, it's getting old.
John James
He literally got cucked by his wife
Samuel King
It was the style at the time
Grayson Lopez
You can conquer whole Europe Alone, if you dont shit on women, you re still irrevalant, Veeky Forums logic
Samuel Evans
>not getting cucked by your wife is shitting on women Redditlogic
Grayson Brown
It's not cuckoldry if you also cheat on her and it's just a political marriage anyways.
Asher Edwards
>youngest general in french history source? >fucked whatever bitch he wanted Literally cucked by his toothless divorcee wife >took the crown out of the pope's hand and crowned himself, the absolute madman Get's excommunicated and nearly panic converts to Islam... >regularly larped as charlemagne and julius caesar Wow, cool! >took a shit on the """"holy roman empire"""" and destroyed it Further facilitates the rise of Prussia and the irrevocable demise of his once great nation. >btfo all of europe for a decade Surrenders twice, eternally cucked by Britain and Russia
>europe is so scared of him they exile him to the remotest place on earth to contain the mad lad Not at all true, he ran to the amnesty of the British who wouldn't have executed a noble knowing full well he would have been executed by other European powers.
Jordan Long
Just imagine what could have been if he never lost...
Alexander Allen
>implying protectionism ever works
Evan Howard
They got along in the end though.
Alexander Rivera
It can work for developing countries
Evan Russell
>Literally cucked by his toothless divorcee wife He fucked a lot more people then his wife did.
Michael Hill
it only doesn't work for multicultural multiethnic liberal corporatist hell holes
Cameron Adams
Yeah, all of France.
Kayden Adams
literal cuck beta provider
Jacob Morgan
"uppity"?
Do you know how racist that word is?
Bentley Turner
Napoleon was badass af but I can't get over how similar he looked to pre-tranny Chris-chan.
Easton Watson
Still lost.
Jaxson Stewart
Can someone explain to me how the fuck did he get exiled TWICE instead of being like hanged, or shot, or whateverfuck you do to a person that just mopped the fucking floor with every other empire that existed at the time, caused insane manpower and materiel loss to everyone involved and generally didn't give a fuck? Why such clemency?
Aiden Gonzalez
Damn
Dominic James
Napoleon spread revolutionary ideals across all of Europe and the Ancien Regimes feared that by killing him he would be made a martyr for the Revolution.
Logan Lopez
Nietzsche said Napoleon was a figure that sprang up straight from antiquity that for some reason happened to be born in the boring 18th century.
He really does stand on the side of the likes of Alexander, Hannibal,Caesar, and Charlemagne.
Dominic Watson
"We owe it to Napoleon (and not at all to the French Revolution, which had in view the "fraternity" of the nations, and the florid interchange of good graces among people generally) that several warlike centuries, which have not had their like in past history, may now follow one another in short, that we have entered upon the classical age of war, war at the same time scientific and popular, on the grandest scale (as regards means, talents and discipline), to which all coming millenniums will look back with envy and awe as a work of perfection: for the national movement out of which this martial glory springs, is only the counter- against Napoleon, and would not have existed without him. To him, consequently, one will one day be able to attribute the fact that man in Europe has again got the upper hand of the merchant and the Philistine; perhaps even of "woman" also, who has become pampered owing to Christianity and the extravagant spirit of the eighteenth century, and still more owing to "modern ideas". Napoleon, who saw in modern ideas, and accordingly in civilisation, something like a personal enemy, has by this hostility proved himself one of the greatest continuators of the Renaissance: he has brought to the surface a whole block of the ancient character, the decisive block perhaps, the block of granite. And who knows but that this block of ancient character will in the end get the upper hand of the national movement, and will have to make itself in a positive sense the heir and continuator of Napoleon: who, as one knows, wanted one Europe, which was to be mistress of the world."
-Friedrich Nietzsche, The Gay Science
Ethan Baker
Because he's so badass that his surname simply became synonymous with greatness.
Jaxson Gray
Daily reminder that Napoleon was follower of Sol Invictus. Therefore, he was the last Roman Emperor.
Benjamin Hill
>last Roman Emperor. Unironically that's Adolf Hitler.
>Racial supremacist instead of integrationalist >Hierarchical instead of egalitarian >Veterans thrown into a meat grinder instead of forming a backbone of the nation >Conquered territory that couldn't be annexed, annexed territory that was released less than a decade later
>B-b-b-but he had a lot of clay and aesthetics and neo-paganism! No.
Jordan Baker
I hope you're not implying the Romans were egalitarian
Matthew Gray
>his surname simply became synonymous with greatness. his surname literally became a nickname for overcompensating chihuahua tempered manlets
Jeremiah Jackson
You must be confusing the Republic with the Empire. Imperial Rome became more egalitarian as time went on; it was an excellent way for Emperor's to legitimize themselves in the eyes of the plebs. Nazi Germany immediately re-stratified society according to their reactionary romanticism.
Dominic Miller
Except that Napoleon being short is a myth due to differences in the French and English measurement systems and he was of average height for the time period.
Michael Wilson
It was literally an empire that relied on slavery and when slaves became less accessible it started developing serfdom. It's a complete sham to refer the Romans as egalitarian, it was only to a limited and relative degree in things like the extension of Roman citizenship, but being granted citizenship does not in any absolve you of being part of the Roman class system controlled by a very small and obscenely wealthy elite.
Tyler Richardson
And no matter how many time you step in to point it out people still won't give a shit and that was my point
Jace Watson
Eh, brainlet normies will be brainlet normies.
Camden Cruz
>his surname literally became a nickname for overcompensating chihuahua tempered manlets Only in anglo countries Always poor loosers
Ryan Edwards
>Applying modern morality to ancient societies Shiggy diggy. Concepts like egalitarianism, progressiveness, reactionary thought, and hierarchicalism are relative to the society in question. The fact is the Empire made strides to close the gap between the common man and the elite, therefore the Empire was egalitarian in practice.
Nolan Howard
>>Racial supremacist instead of integrationalist the dude maded allies (eg finland) and intergrated (eg occupied zone of france) as he went >>Hierarchical instead of egalitarian are you even aware rome had a slave class? >>Veterans thrown into a meat grinder instead of forming a backbone of the nation bad generals =/= fuhrer >>Conquered territory that couldn't be annexed, annexed territory that was released less than a decade later the whole thing was a clusterfuck.. a lighthouse stood alone and it shone bright, romes the only other example i can think of where the effects and influence still linger so strong to this day, regardless of original borders (see germanys to the rome city state implying HRE) >>B-b-b-but he had a lot of clay and aesthetics and neo-paganism! dont use the word neo it makes you look like a brainlet, what the fuck is protestantism anyway? ultimately? based on greek paganism
Eli Fisher
Even on science, napoleon had understood everything. He replied to one of his colleagues (this person told him that there was no greater discovery than the Galileo's one) that if he had been a scientist, he would have explored the infinitely small world because it was there according to him that would reveal the nature and the full power of the man.
Joshua Williams
Russians were literally blown out in almost every major engagement by the French during the Napoleonic wars. Moscow wasn't supposed to be taken and the French still raped the Russians even when outnumbered during their retreat doing rear-guard actions.
Chase Bell
>will never Indeed
Ryan Gray
>t. ESL brainlet
Dominic Miller
stay sperg
Christian Lewis
He was a good general but not a great statesman He started pointless wars and isolated his country diplomatically and economically. Also his escape and return was orchestrated by Tallyrand, Austria and England. They knew he / imperialism in France would come back so they brought him back ahead and schedule and stomped him down fast. This is factually false. He took heavy losses on the Russian campaign even before his retreat
Colton Green
>losers
What did he mean by this?
Anthony Long
>what the fuck is protestantism anyway? ultimately? based on greek paganism
Dylan Price
>Napoleon can't conquer your country if there's no country to conquer
Joshua Cooper
He was still the former Emperor of the French, and after 1792 the monarchies of Europe were really anxious about royalty being executed for any reason.
Brody Fisher
>the dude maded allies (eg finland) and intergrated (eg occupied zone of france) as he went Finland was always an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" situation, as Mannerheim pointed out whenever possible. And it doesn't counteract Hitler trying to autistically erase almost every ethnic group East of Germany up to the Urals, to the direct detriment of the war effort.
Gavin Evans
>cucked by Josephine Admittedly, Josephine is his first love - but she was a noblewoman without a husband in Paris. She got a lot of dick already. Only reason she was relevant was because Napoleon was still a young lad, highly impressionable. Still got a banging Austrian princess who decided to jump the Napoleon train after crying about it before meeting him.
Jaxson Brooks
Daily reminder that Josephine was an outcast hick that grew up on a plantation, and had blackened nubs for teeth from chewing on raw sugar cane all day in her youth.
Andrew Lopez
>conquered egypt in a couple of months His Egyptian campaign was a fucking disaster though. Through no fault of his own
>fucked whatever bitch he wanted He loved his wife Josephine, but she wasn't producing an heir.
The world would be a better place if Talleyrand hadn't betrayed Napoleon and convinced Tzar Alexander not to ally with him. If Russia had taken the offer, them and France would have teamed up to basically dominate all of Europe
Dylan Roberts
Napoleon had a dozen+ mistresses.
Josiah Rivera
no because he was a beta cuckold for an openly adulterous empress
Austin Ross
True, but he still loved Josephine. Their relationship was... tempestuous.
Ian Foster
...
Aaron Sullivan
Why isn't this a line graph?
Joseph Thomas
>Showing the plebs that it's okay to execute one of your own order
That's like the entire reason the crowned heads of Europe were scared shitless into declaring coalition wars on Nappy in the first place.
Levi James
>never lost a battle >charged into the fighting himself >defeated the long time enemy of greece and the most powerful nation in the world >actually a decent guy to his conquered subjects >cities named after him still to this day >wins so much that his army literally gets tired of winning >all by the age of 32 >called "the great" pls
Eli Brown
Napoleon's Egyptian campaign was excellent; he defeated vastly larger forces and occupied the two major cities of the country - Alexandria and Cairo - within months of each other. It was his disastrous and poorly thought-out Palestine campaign that fucked him up, as well as Nelson being a badass and sinking his fleet.
Kayden Fisher
Alexander had generals more skilled than him. He also had a father that put greece under his foot.
Parminion was the brains of Alexander's campaigns and was rewarded by being murdered with his son. That's why Alexander isn't "great." He was just ambitious. He wasn't an innovator or a statesman. Also he basically was Persian when he died.
Ian Richardson
Also, part of the reason some people considered him "short" is that the minimum height requirement of his personal bodyguard was something like 6'1" which was pretty fucking tall back then and Napoleon being slightly above average height for back then (5'7" or something) probably looked shorter to people viewing him from a distance at processions as he was surrounded by a bunch of incredibly tall people.
Justin Hughes
>Alexander had generals more skilled than him.
Shut up Bosworth, you're drunk.
Also, while Parmenion may very well have been a good general and may very possibly have been shat on a bit in history; Alexander's greatest victory was in India against Porus, and Parmenion was well fucking dead by then.
Also, the greatest generals to come out of Alexander's conquests during the struggles of Alexander's successors weren't even generals which Alexander used for military operations barring Ptolemy. Seleukos was just one of Perdikkas' lieutenants, Eumenes was literally Alexander's clerk, and Antigonus was administrating Anatolia and not involved in much fighting if any.
Kraterus got defeated handily by Eumenes, and Perdikkas got defeated handily by Ptolemy before being sold out by Seleukos,
Therefore the argument that "Alexander's generals" did all the work doesn't hold wait. As the most senior commanders of Alexander largely proved second rate at best after Alexander's death, and none of his successors (who fought with him, Pyrrhus didn't fight with Alexander) proved to have anywhere near the tactical genius of Alexander.
So no, your Bosworthian argument is full of fucking holes and full of fucking shit. Sure, saying that Parmenion's work was downplayed after his death is very possibly valid, it's an interesting hypothesis, but there's no proof Alexander was in anyway hindered by the removal of Parmenion, also Parmenion basically held Alexander's succession hostage as he was related via marriage to Attalus who Alexander needed to liquidate: Parmenion knew this and used it to his advantage gaining himself the position as second in command, and basically making all his relatives generals in Alexander, which Alexander then had to spend years upon years removing. As he removed these generals his army still seemed to do well though.
Fucking Bosworth triggers me so goddamn much!
Dylan Fisher
also his man called him le petit corporal petit says something more on his humbleness rather than his size
Jace Phillips
>as well as Nelson being a badass and sinking his fleet.
This was the real issue. If the fleet captain had listened to Napoopans explicit instructions he would have avoided being destroyed too.
Levi Gutierrez
t. John Green
Put it to rest, dude. Alexander was an amazing general and mediocre statesman. And just to make mention of Alexander father putting Greece under foot, Alexander had to defeat a coalition of the majority of Hellas in order to keep them. He did. In one battle. Flawlessly.
Hunter Peterson
*blocks your path* Pssht nothin' personal kid
Jaxson Nguyen
>it's just a political marriage anyways. He did loved her. In later periods she loved him too.
Gavin Nguyen
Oops, wrong pic
Nicholas Barnes
This kraut thought he was pregnant with an elephant he was crazy. The virgin Blücher vs the chad Wellington (at least people have heard of him)
Jayden Butler
The hegemony of Napoleon was so important that any general who was victorious against him was promoted to the rank of national hero and icon...
Dominic Campbell
>t. perfidious Anglo or consumer of Anglo media Wellington literally only fought 1 battle against Napoleon which was after the real fall of his empire and with the vital help of the Prussians. Wellington somehow being Napoleon's nemesis is a big dumb Anglo meme.
The real war was won in central and eastern Europe.
Jace Evans
It must have been awkward, literally only being known as something other than a "who" because you were part of a million-man coalition that defeated a vastly superior leader.
Jason Morales
Wellington : "His defeat of Napoleon at the Battle of Waterloo in 1815 put him in the first rank of Britain's military heroes." New zealand capital = wellington : "Wellington takes its name from Arthur Wellesley (1769–1852), the first Duke of Wellington and victor of the Battle of Waterloo (1815)"
Also the Anglo funded all the battles and armies of the war. It's like saying the US wasn't instrumental in winning WW1 and WW2
Kevin Ramirez
Napoleon was merely a thorn in the side of Britain on it's rise to global hegemony
David Roberts
>The majority of the allied forces were under wellington's command. Are you confusing the british army with the majority of the allied forces?
Mason Carter
Battle of waterloo: Troops under Wellington: 68,000 Troops undet Blücher: 50,000
Levi Nelson
You didn't say "The majority of the allied forces at Waterloo were under Wellington's command", you said the vaguer "the majority of allied forces were under Wellington's command".