So if ejaculating decreases androgen receptors (the thing testosterone needs in order to be used) and increases estrogen receptors, then how can nofap not "effectively increase" testosterone? Having less androgen receptors and more estrogen receptors is worse than having less test.
it returns if you don't ejaculate meanwhile Nofappers benefit every single day.
Fappers getting REKT in here
Brandon Nelson
so why don't you stop fucking then too
Matthew Peterson
>implying
Landon Nguyen
You probably aren't fucking every day or even every week or hell some you not even every year.
You seen many happy married dudes fucking every day for years and years? Now compare to bachelors and their sexual appetite.
Robert Gomez
it ends TODAY. no more fapping for me.
Gabriel Murphy
>it returns if you don't ejaculate meanwhile Nofappers benefit every single day.
What? You literally just said the opposite of your point.
John Myers
Meaning every day I benefit from having more androgen receptora and less esterogen receptors = moar gainz than the guy who faps and has to wait for things to return to normal.
Julian Taylor
Why sit and argue endlessly about it, citing the same fucking sources that cant agree with each other?
If youve never done nofap, just try it. Set a reasonable goal for yourself. 1 week, 2 weeks, 1 month, ect. Whatever you think will test you, and just fucking do it. See what happens. If nothing changes for you, okay now you know its not for you. Continue as normal. If you do see positive changes, there is your proof. Who gives a fuck if you do or dont have a peer reviewed study to back it up, if you know it works for you, thats all the proof you need. And if you cant make it to your goal. If you honestly try and fail, you might have an addiction to porn or fapping.
Leo Martinez
GTFO shills. There is NO reason for you to come into this thread and cry about how "f-fapping does nothing wrong" except to give porn websites more money. Just fuck off. Assholes (If not shills then retards in denial)
Samuel Rogers
nofap isn't for increasing test, it's for getting rid of bad sexual habits. the real culprit is porn. it's just like junkfood, once you eat it you're hungry an hour later. but once you eat healthy and veggies and shit, you can go for hours. go fap as often as you want, just don't use porn but your imagination. the decrease in test people report is just their changed lifestyle by living healthier and more outgoing..
I honestly think this myth comes from retards who think they can 'feel' how high their test is. For sure, fapping less/not at all makes you feel higher energy and more aggressive. Then retards notice this and think it must somehow be because their test has increased.
Jason Barnes
Theoretically, if you could fuck every day, would you stop? That's what I meant. I'm not a shill, you can jerk off as much or little as you want, I'm just tired of these threads with no actual, non biased, research every being posted. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
Joshua Flores
>Cant tell if you're feeling more test or recognize changes in your own body.
You're either a shill or a geared up retard.
Nathaniel Lewis
So what's the best way forward in light of the finding that Sexual Satiety is associated with decreased concentrations of brain androgen receptors? Just stop having any sexual experience?
Notably, they didn't link it to androgen receptors outside the brain (which would make this remotely Veeky Forums related).
Sexual satiety is a condition that is common to fapping and to sex. Are you advocating abstaining from any sexual activity (fapping or sex)? Or is this an anti-porn thread?
At least on /pol/ the link between porn/fapping/pre-marital sex and degeneracy is clear. But it sounds like you're trying to make a Veeky Forums based argument that just isn't there (unless you go full monk mode).
Lincoln Hill
You can't tell how high your test is by feel and you're an idiot if you think you can. More alertness/energy is not the same as higher test.
Jose Ramirez
but if fapping reduces adrogen receptors, increases estrogen receptors and you've been fapping your whole life then you're going to have the effective equivalent of a test boost by not fapping.
if I could fuck 10's every day I wouldn't be at a chinese cartoon board site trying to better myself to the point where I am fucking 10's every day so this question isn't useful. Simply put if you're at the top of the game doing what you're doing then keep doing it right? You don't mess with success.
Jordan Diaz
I stopped fapping for a week and lost all my libido. Had to masturbate like mad to get back to normal. I barely ever watch porn though, as I masturbate in the shower.
Matthew Roberts
Have a question for you bros
Can I jelq on nofap without getting blue balls? I know jelqing requires ~20 min for effect, but requires a partial erection to do. Also kegels basically needs full boner to do properly.
Just wanna make Dick gains without blue balls
Aiden Harris
Because nothing changes after 7 days.
Jack Torres
>he thinks free testosterone is the same as androgen receptor sensitivity I direct you to faggot
Carter Long
>Are you advocating abstaining from any sexual activity (fapping or sex)?
Jonathan Richardson
I have rigorous consensual sexual sessions to completion nightly with my wife - some days she even jerks or sucks me off in the morning. This gives me power. My lifts are not light weight.
>fap Why not just fuck
Hunter Price
I fap once a night before bed to my crush's instagram photos. I don't think it does me any harm. Porn is the bigger issue.
Chase Harris
Nofap is just a bunch of christfag propoganda.
Angel Bailey
>biased source
Sorry buddy, but you're an idiot
Brandon Scott
anyone ever cum but hold it in? does this count as relapse?
Juan Peterson
That's what I told myself yesterday and today I busted a nut. It's just not possible for us a-wank-a-day guys who have been doing it for years.
Chase Roberts
Yup. As a matter of fact, it's worse because it fucks up your prostate in the long run.
Levi Collins
On a really boring day for me ill have upward of a dozen wanks.
Usually 3-4 a day.
Going to try and go 2 days without fap, even 24 hrs will be good if I could make it. Every time I think of going to fap ill just stretch or do push ups.
Can I watch myfreecams on no fap or is that still porn?
Parker Perez
not gonna let you get me down, its time to break the habit
Joseph Ward
all of the sources come from peer reviewed journals and are properly cited
you got nothing
Ryder Thompson
PLACEBO L A C E B O
Camden Rodriguez
Don't play with yourself user if you start watching cams you're going to jerk off
Jack Hernandez
>2016 >thinking testosterone is the only anabolic hormone in your body Pick one
Carter Green
I haven't fapped in 3 days but now i have a dire urge to do it. help me brehs
Juan Collins
YOU are the type of person that will benefit from nofap, because you have a genuine problem. I know from experience. Most sexually healthy males dont need it
Tyler Barnes
You should stop jelqing before your dick is too fucked up. You realize the extra size is basically scar tissue build up right?
Carson King
Double dubs don't lie
Christopher Hernandez
This. It really is different for everyone, so find out what works for you.