Nazis considered Jazz "degenerate music" just because it was made by Black people

I was listening to Russian WW2 songs the other day and checked Wermacht's greatest hits. What drivel. Apart from Lily Marlen, it's some of the worst music known to man. Even the most popular ones, like Panzerlied consistently fall out of rhythm. It's amazing how Nazi Germany did not manage to produce a single great musician, writer, painter or filmmaker in 12 years of its wastrel existence.

>muh rhythm
Subhumans lack the capacity to appreciate Aryan time signatures.

The Nazis were shitty thugs but in fairness they did have Carl Orff.
youtube.com/watch?v=RF5d-A1Ks18

Sounds like he's masterbaiting to his new uniform he got from uncle adolf. Then again he has a few valid points.

>no poets

What about Ralph Waldo Emerson and Walt Whitman?

literally who

>no painters
fuck you goebbels, its better than your faggy fantasy rpg LARP art

youtube.com/watch?v=U6B5rDzSSFY

>no poets
Poe, Emerson, Whitman, Thoreau.

>no painters
Hopper, Cassatt.

>no architects
What a joke. He comes from a country where the bleeding edge is just stripped down classicism and concrete.

Looks like a fucking comic book illustration

Wew lad

What would actual Nazis have thought of skinhead punk?

>meme shows from Faggotopia
Get lost.

there's a difference between not having a taste for something and calling it degenerate

t. butthurt jazzfag

That's not even completely true, but America's appropriation of other cultures is the best thing about it. Fuck yes let us take all the best shit and cram it together, that's the marketplace of ideas. That's memetic evolution.

I'm

>Fuck yes let us take all the worst shit and cram it together
Fixed.

if it truly is the worst then why does it spread everywhere? our memes are beating your heritage-based spooks

Because it panders to the lowest common denominator and the most popular things are almost universally trash? Might as well ask why is Nick Jonas and Miley Cyrus more popular than Liszt and Berlioz.

What an absolutely childish mindset. It seems he believed nations had some kind of claim of ownership to culture, and that once you passed beyond an arbitrary border you were "borrowing" or "stealing" it. As though the Germans who left their homeland for America ceased to have any claim on German art and history when they became American citizens. What absolute rubbish.

t. Tyler Gonzalez

I know it doesnt live up to the art of A Wyatt Mann, but its actually a great work of American realism

He's not wrong you know

The fact people outside of America don't know them might tell you quite a lot.

Please explain how a Frenchman who was inspired by the French masters as a child and then moves to America and grows up to be a painter in the vein of the French masters is somehow "borrowing" French culture while his neighbor from when he lived in France is not.

It tells me they're remarkably ignorant.

>A Wyatt Mann
Hero of our time.

youtube.com/watch?v=-xGPHseCQrI

youtube.com/watch?v=MOm17yw__6U

youtube.com/watch?v=UYWwNP0FTIA

youtube.com/watch?v=wbU4zwhOGVg

This is a jazz music thread now.

Its even dumber considering all nazi art was was just shitty neo-classical stuff so they could LARP as rome

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>>Nazis considered Jazz "degenerate music" just because it was made by Black people

wtf? i hate adorno now

JAZZ WAS INVENTED BY A SICILIAN
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papa_Jack_Laine
Blacks BTFO lmao

Because, back then, jazz was seen as being (comparatively) more decadent. The more eager rhythm was overwhelming to some back then who were more used to traditional/folk music as well as classical. And yes, jazz music was also associated with sex, drugs, movies, hedonism back then as well. If you want to go with a race angle, then yes there is connection to blacks, as well as jews who wrote a modest amount of showtunes in that era.

Regardless, jazz definitely had a sizable following in Nazi Germany. Watch this video if you want some insight on the era (recommended):
youtube.com/watch?v=VH40n5lchQo

Jazz has way too many origins to possibly pin down a correct beginning. Some people even believe that Ludwig Van Beethoven started jazz as a thing with his 32nd Piano Sonata.

nobody called it degenerate, the guy just called it shit.

>Ralph Waldo Emerson and Walt Whitman
who?
5 years old paint
literally who: the list

I just listed some very well known American artists and writers, its not my fault you're ignorant. Also their architecture was both terrible and guilty of the same thing that gremlin complained about.

America has gotten worse.

They're not Nazis. They're degenerate garbage. Richard Spencer and David Duke are okay though.

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By comparison it was, although modern hop hop may make it seem better than it was.

Like punk music? They'd have hated it. Of modern music I think they'd only like Adams and maybe Rihm.

youtube.com/watch?v=hMuPqINYFIo

>no architects
Frank Lloyd Wright

Kikes did it too and they both are simply not popular.

friendly reminder

It was allowed as long as it was properly "cleansed". There is such a thing as Nazi Jazz.

>As though the Germans who left their homeland for America ceased to have any claim on German art and history when they became American citizens.

When they dropped that stuff and dully assimilated then yeah.

>screencapping your own posts

>Rap

Which is garbage.

Who is this Wald Emerson you talking about ?

Okay Adorno

as always there is a propaganda level and real life. In propaganda and general attitude Göbbels has it right. In practice there were the Swing Kids and generally an opener mind towards modern music. Even the Leibstandarte had a jazz formation.

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While nazis weren't supportive of jazz, they surely didn't ban, nor did they persecute people who listened to it. "Jazz is degenerate" was the opinion of some nazis, but not everyone thought that and jazz wasn't banned
This pic was literally just Zieglers opinion, not the position of the state

kek

>The dry knock of an idiotic hammer penetrates the utter stillness. One, two, three, ten, twenty strikes, and afterwards a wild whistling and squeaking as if a ball of mud was falling into clear water; then follows a rattling, howling and screaming like the clamor of a metal pig, the cry of a donkey or the amorous croaking of a monstrous frog. The offensive chaos of this insanity combines into a pulsing rhythm. Listen to this screaming for only a view minutes, and one involuntarily pictures an orchestra of sexually wound-up madmen, conducted by a Stallion-like creature who is swinging his giant genitals

- Maxim Gorky

It always baffles me that there are whites who listen to rap music by groids when it's 95% ooga booga bix nood muh diqq fuq whitey werdawhytewomenat. Even in my European country I have younger cousins and a brother who listen to it and I hear niggers talking about gang shite and prison and fucking each others girlfriends - what's the appeal?
Literal, audible cuckoldry.

youtu.be/Ndu7RaRvtEE

t. nazi

well that would be cultural appropriation, wouldn't it?

nation =/= country

By this logic all the music that Nazis enjoy today (metal) is degenerate because it originates from blues.

Nowadays every listens to a bunch of degenerate nihilistic white/black rappers with a xanax addiction producing "sadboy trap". Those dopeheads tend to have face tattoos because wow random and artsy.

Example: Lil Peep

I think most of the White kids imagine themselves as that gangster guy.
So they sort of imagine themselves being some gangster.

Not JUST because it was black, but because of its lack of repetition, its strange melodies, etc.

>tfw Goebbels cried about muh cultural appropiation
was he the first sjw?

Man
You guys are on the level of a highschooler

You're shit.

>It always baffles me that there are whites who listen to rap music
some decades ago:

>It always baffles me that there are whites who listen to rock n roll music
and before

>It always baffles me that there are whites who listen to jazz music
and
the same with tango, blues, reagee, and so on and so on.

blues is dead