Why Leftists Turn the Wheels of History

Do you ever wonder why leftism is still relevant centuries after the important political theories were manifested? Every single political theory whose practice expanded the scope of human rights has its roots in leftism. Not only is Communism at least tacitly supported by academic institutions, Marxism itself is a very complex and intricate political theory having undergone over a century of evolution that keeps even the keenest minds occupied for a lifetime.

Do you ever wonder why the entire right-wing, including the Libertarian right, barely contributed any political or social theory that endured even half a century? Very few right-wingers devote much work to political theory. Not only would pursuing the development of a political theory require a good deal of funding (and, let's face it, right-wingers aren't very amenable to funding intellectual pursuits unless there's a return on investment), they're going to have to fight an uphill battle against opposing intellectuals on the left, but even skeptics on the right. Right-wingers have capitalism to thank for all its intellectual weight, for without it, they'd perish. The Libertarians who talk up the market have no sway in the means of production, be they corporations or small businesses. They're all little men grasping desperately whose only consolation are the petty gifts of Capital for their time as priests.

Actually, it's more a case of both sides being a torrent of absolute shit with some gems that are worth the read.

I personally like progressive philosophers. Like Socrates and the concept of a wise king. Plato and him worked together and came up with an Empire. Very cool stuff in the progressive world.

Hobbes was the prototypical Political Scientist and he was definitely not left wing. His work is still relevant because all he's really doing is stating facts. It's oversimplified, yes, but no Marxist can realistically refute the need for a government without relying on pure faith, at which point you're basically a religion.

Also, there's no such thing as "left", "right" or any kind of "political spectrum". There are just ideologies.

They're relative to the country

modern politics is the worst thing that could have happened to humanity. I'd rather be the serf of a fucking count and eat shit all day than argue about "UURGHHHH MUH LEFT NO YOUR WRONG ITS RIGHT"

Trust me, you wouldn't be be saying that if you actually had to do it.

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Those books are probably there to fill empty food shelves.

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>Marxism itself is a very complex and intricate political theory having undergone over a century of evolution that keeps even the keenest minds occupied for a lifetime.

Is this really what brainlets believe?

I mean, Marxism literally reduces the entire world to a few mechanisms, and once you have learned these mechanisms, you immediately think you're a goddamn genius.

It's pure pseudo-intellectualism wrapped in a ball of half-truths.

>thought stays relevant for 150 years
>much better than a century old tradition

I hate americans so goddamn much.

Shut it faggot. Who would you rather have as boss:

>Bro tier Aristocrat who is drunk everyday and doesnt demand more than some food to feed himself.

>Shareholder who literally sees you as just a number, and will require you to buy your house back over again every 100 years.

Sure you could get unlucky but that's Hollywood that makes it seem like all nobles were blood thirsty.

With no check on his power, I have no reason to trust the Aristocrat would be a "bro" and, indeed, history proves me right. So the later, because with enough money I can outright buy the house and he has no more power.

Hobbes existed before left vs right was a thing. Dude certainly didn't care if it was Cromwell or Charles II, so long as they had state authority.

"left" is an overly broad term. Thomas Jefferson and Marx could both be called "leftists" yet have almost nothing in common in terms of thought.

The fact is conservative and libertarian theories have had a huge impact on actual politics, its just that only a few of those theories are considered good or viable in the academic community, which you have pointed out is full of people skeptical to them in political outlook.

>Who would you rather have as a boss
If we're talking in complete hypotheticals then I'd rather work for the guy who gives me a wage for my labor and lets me find another, better job if I wish over the guy who literally sees me as a farm animal on two legs.

So we agree there's absolutely a 0% chance that OP isn't falseflagging right?

White people, whites are the reason this progressive leftist madness persist to this day because they are an insane race of moralfags who will stop at nothing to look like heroes to all. We could be in peace and these crazy europeans would INVENT problems to be praised altruisticly for.

>We could be in peace and these crazy europeans
is this the nigger equivalent to pol's "buts its de joows"?

why does the guy on the right have a beard and curved nose?

>modern american politics is the worst thing that could have happened to humanity

Ftfy, I will never understand this obsession to categorize everything into "left" or "right", but that's what centuries of a two-party system consisting of voting either blue or red does to you.

Left means being a blind altruist, Right means being a blind traditionalist.

The left wing is devoted to anything that causes altruistic pleasure like mindlessly helping human groups in the country that dont deserve any help at all like blacks, mexicans at least try to add to the US economy but blacks are human shit who destroy America. When there are no minorities they target social minorities like fags or trannies then inflate their suffering to increase the altruistic rush they get from "helping" them. Notice the progressive chimps out when their "precious" minority doesnt even agree with their madness like a black stating its their welfare policies that lead to the mass degeneration of the african american community. The leftist however will retort "BUT I AM HELPING YOU!", they dont care if the minority is grateful as the key goal of modern leftism is to get altruistic rushs NO MATTER WHAT.

>subscribes to an ideology thoroughly irreconcilable with current society
>"lololol why're ALL leftists so politically active

Righties are not exactly thinkers

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Yeah but Hobbes thought without a state we'd just start killing and raping each other, even though the only reason we've gotten this far is from learning to work together.

Lefties are not exactly thinkers

>Leftists turn the wheels of history

Where exactly? Russia? University campuses? The majority of the world (with the exception of western Europe) is staunchly "right of center" both socially and politically. I'm not one to bitch about "euro centrism" but fuck this board is ridiculous some times.

The only reason we've come so far is because violent competition resulted in an increase in unit size for human societies. Humans are a social animal and our ape ancestors have been so for millions of years. Complex society arose from conquest and subjugation, not from tribes working together. Any casual glimpse of history would teach you this. Also, fuck OP for trolling.

Ben?

Except when leftists go and kill people in commie revolts. It's more of a rebellious attitude against the natural order of things that characterizes left better. Racial egalitarianism is one case of it. Hating your own race isn't even supposed to be a part of racial egalitarianism but it exists as a kind of fuck you attitude to the natural order of things in some people.

lol, books, how primitive. That's game, set, match, leftie. Hurry up and bag the court.

Left is responsible for decolonization so it's turning the wheels of history in Africa, hell African communism was huge during cold war, Chinks are technically still communists, Japan got BTFO into becoming a democracy which is way more left wing than what they used to be.

Leftism doesn't work.

Only modern amerimutt politics, which also happens to be the most vocal (vocal in the sense that it's like an angry mongoloid manchild running naked around a house screeching at everyone)

>Be American
>Drinking age is 21
More like USA BTFO

You walked in into something a little bigger than your small mind, amerimutt.
Go to some amerimutt-politique centered thread in /pol/, it would be more up to your speed.

>leftist politics
>big

>a neet 1/3 of the year
>not the best life ever

>no draft
>no taxes
>inb4 "paying your landlord is the equivalent to someone literally stealing from you"
>no materialism
>everyone looks like you
>you are a master of your craft
>you are not apart of the masses but instead belong to a clan or specific "tribe" or peoples with a rich heritage

Bonus level
>If of Scandinavian descent you could become a viking which opens up endless opportunity
>money
>women
>land
>even minor lordship and landholdings under a king
>even becoming king yourself (albeit a long shot but still possible without the modern aspect of political nepotism)

Bait, but I'll bite anyway.
Progressivism is nothing new. The tenets have been the same since the founding of the Massachusetts Bay Colony. They've slowly propagated outward since then. Rooted in extremist christian sentiments, progressivism remains a religion, however it lacks a deity, making it something of a flightless bird. It makes plenty of suppositions that are clearly divorced from reality and thrives on utopist fantasy in place of a utopic afterlife. Like conservatism, fascism, and religion, it is a memetic parasite, a history of intellectuals jerking themselves off and congratulating one another, crediting the successes won by scientific progress to their backwards social theories.
Science and cold hard logic have given us the first world, not democracy or any of the other social values you or your predecessors have espoused. And science did this in spite of the intellectuals who tried to use it for their own agenda: looking at you, Darwin.
So, do leftists turn the wheels of history? No. It is the scientists, the thinkers, those who carry everyone else on their back, the collective Atlas of humanity, that move history forward. They don't have time to deal with your untestable social "sciences" or self congratulatory wank. They have work to do. Work that you will take credit for. Why do they let this happen? Because their work is all they need. They're not evangelists. Unlike some people, who possess a need for total intellectual domination. Thankfully, the last time progressives tried to tread on real science, they were universally told to fuck off. I expect that future attempts will be met with similar resistance. By then, the singularity will be there to save us from you, by making the whole premise of human identity obsolete, thereby erasing identity politics.
You're fucking welcome, by the way.

Soviet Union wasn't any less technically advanced than USA, yet the standards of life there were much worse. Science alone can't do shit without democracy. Science can't even exist without ideology to drive it, as even the results we obtain are meaningless without humans giving them some meaning.

But yes let's repeat unit 731 and pretend that life is still good and first world.

>copies insult

>STEMposting on Veeky Forums
get out

>yet the standards of life there were much worse
What would russians even do with themselves if every waking moment of their life wasn't an existential kafkaesque nightmare where ennui claims as many souls as the drink, heroin, aids, and being generally russian?

>lysenkoism
>science
>USSR wasn't less scientifically advanced
HA! Good one.
See, here's what you need to understand. Democracy doesn't enable science, it just interferes with it less often. Try having an honest debate about climate change, or human neurological uniformity, or nuclear power. You can't, because the two topics are completely loaded. When you have retards guiding public policy, you get shit like the climate change debate, or the impositions on nuclear power. Or why don't we talk about HNU? Then everyone can hate me!
Racists want to believe that skin color is sufficient. Religious nuts want to believe that evolution stops at the skin level. Does it? I don't fucking know, I think there's more nature than lefties want to admit, and much more nurture than racists want to admit. But any study that isn't explicitly formed LOOKING for a progressive answer will find no donors. Impartiality doesn't pay there. We can't study humans like the animals we are because some truths are "self evident" which is totally a religious crock. Question and test everything.
An ideal society wouldn't give policy decisions to rural, suburban, and urban retards. They'd give well constructed studies the grants they deserve, and you all could just leave your lives devoid of politics. What a beautiful, clean reality that would be. Unfortunately it will never happen. Not until the singularity, where we can build a being more fit to rule us than ourselves.

There is no such thing as the modern Right Wing. The Right Wing died in the West during World War 1, the ''modern Right Wing'' is just different strains of the Leftism.

>Aristocrats didn't have to follow rules and were accountable to nobody

Where do people get these ideas?

>Do you ever wonder why leftism is still relevant centuries after the important political theories were manifested
Nobody cares about marxism aside from marxists.

That's not true, conservatives and neo-conservatives are fucking obsessed with countering it even when it stopped posing a threat in 1989

>Racists want to believe that skin color is sufficient
Nobody believes this. This is a strawman. No racist thinks african albinos are the same as europeans.

A monarchy would be seen as repressive now.

>That's not true, conservatives and neo-conservatives are fucking obsessed with countering it
When "conservatives" talk about marxism, they just mean social democrats. That's it.

>USA during cold war
>People think cigarettes are healthy for you
>That climate change isn't real
>Like half the population doesn't believe in revolution which is pretty much the same as lysenkoism
Yeah let's pretend USSR was any dumber than even modern day USA. And before you go something like lysenkoism was deeply rooted in the Soviet government then look again at USA and its politicians. Any arguments about scientific disparity between USA and USSR would need to somehow tell how minimal disparities in it would lead to such massive outcomes when plenty of countries way less advanced had better lives.
>They'd give well constructed studies the grants they deserve, and you all could just leave your lives devoid of politics.
Well constructed study (and even multiple ones) finds that Blacks have 10 to 15 points lower average IQ due to pure genetics. What does it do for politics? Left would either deny or claim to help them out, right demonize and want to kick them out, and here you have politics again, science doesn't help with this shit.

Social democrats have the same sense of self-justification that made Marxism terrible.

They are meaningless terms. They are too broad and nondefined to mean anything. "marxism", that means something. "Burkean conservatism", that means something. "Italian fascism", that means something as well. "syndicalism", "democratic socialism", "neoliberalism", "classical liberalism", all those terms have meaning. But "left" or "right" have none.

It literally means "thing I don't like" now