People sadly prefer pump and dump coin but this could change by pushing awareness by actually explaining why the coin we are shilling is better. For instance I really really believe in Bitbay and pic related is why. Long term game is the real game and only good tech can win that kind of game.
Right now the market is just dementia. Bitcoin is centralized at this point. It literally has mining mafias that control most of the hash power. Also it has slow af tx processing and plans to solve that with even more centralization. Without counting that Bitcoin has literally no innovations except being the first crypto money. Its sole purpose is buying alts but it can get replaced by another coin for that. Let me warm you too that Ethereum is a ticking bomb. It uses PoW like Bitcoin so it has the same problems than it. And the worst of the worst is that it is fucking bloated to death. Look: etherscan.io/chart/chaindatasizefull Right now a full node is fucking 350gb and its growth rate keeps getting faster. This will lead to two options: either it will crash at some point, or either it will get centralized. Also most of its token is vaporware that is not used.
If you want to talk about coin you like, do it in this thread but actually develop your arguments about why you like it instead of being a pajeet tier shill that just say "buy muh coin".
So say I use BitBay to buy BTC thru the client, is it fully user like they say or is there some sort of cucked-out catch?
I’m tired of running to these BTC ATMs
Asher Adams
It has been years since they said that and still no PoS in view. Ethereum is a shitfest. Even it ends up switching to PoS, it is still bloated to death and have a non secure DAPP programming framework that led many times to tons of ETH getting stolen.
Brody Cruz
Pic related answer you regarding how user it is and how you can use it to be fully user.
TL,DR It is mostly user, but to be 100% user you have to make a bit more effort but technically you can. The software is very versatile so it depends how you use it. Although there is not catch, it is open source and fully peer to peer no middlemen. It is not cucked like syscoin or unreleased like safex/particl. It is real. It is there to test yourself.
Henry Price
Actually, Casper (PoS) protocols are being tested right now.
ETH also has the ability to implement ring signatures and Zero-Knowledge proofs after Metropolis (dropping this month) that combine both the privacy technologies of Monero and zCash.
Smart Contracts and DAPPs are only as secure as the code, which is often open-source. The platform is no less intrinsically insecure than HTTP or C++, it's up to the community to develop and promote good coding standards and practices that ensure secure contracts are delivered. That's one tremendous benefit of having a large number of professional organizations working with the platform (Ethereum Enterprise Alliance).
Ethereum is not currently living up to its potential but it is literally the most future-proof coin, largely due to its motivated and experienced development community.
Leo Morris
And you are saying me it's already working?
Lol, I invested in Safex but this project is everything what Safex is aiming for and more, I feel fucking robbed right now.
Is the site bitbay.market user ? Because bitbay.net is just some polish exchange right?
Hunter Murphy
Aaaaaan he lost all his credibility. Keep your bitbay bags faggot
Christian Williams
Bag city bitch bag bag City bitch
I bought high but I still have faith in you miserable BAY shills, Zimbeck’s got just the right amount of ‘tism
Liam King
So are you saying the bloating will be solved?
Henry Lopez
this thread unironically has good potential i hate seeing 30 shill threads I just want a legitimate discussion with thought out responses behind what coins people think will do well
Brandon Anderson
>future proof >is overly bloated and has scalability issues because of all the shared processing in this shared blockchain
ETH is a platform for writing fancy scripts, this has the advantage of building projects on top of it but the disadvantage of bloating the chain. Also because it is not sidechain based bringing down ETH brings down everything. Bloat on ETH chain directly crushes projects built on it. It is ETHs greatest strength and weakness. Also it will never be relevant if the price keeps being this volatile. No commerce can be built on high volatility currencies. It simply prevents consumer adoption.
Even Neo seems better than Ethereum. Ethereum need 60 billions dollars to a mere x3 in ROIs. It will never happen.
Nolan Fisher
yes that part is already clearly outlined
Joseph Davis
They have makerDAO for volatility though I don't really understand the process
I'm relatively knew in crypto, could you give me a link of a post/article that clearly explains the bloating problematic and solution for eth?
Also, aren't there supposedly better versions of eth releasing soon like Eos for example? That's what I heard
Jeremiah Walker
Yes it is already working. You can download the client on bitbay.market indeed. Safex is just an unreleased product selling empty promised thanks to huge marketing. Basically it is a scam and a shitcoin. Bitbay already does everything than safex merely promises but it also does much more and have an amazing roadmap. They also deliver reliably as Bitbay is working since YEARS. Pic related even though it is old (so it lacks some stuff).
Ethereum is shit, get over it brainlet. If you are mocking me because of typos, I was writing using a touch screen relax. Also I love my bitbay bags, don't plan to sell any of them.
Of course you should have faith. Rome wasn't built in one day. Check out the fucking good roadmap bitbay.market/roadmap/. It will go up again and will certainly moon to heaven in 2018. The tech of it is just TOO GOOD to be ignored.
It won't. You simply can't undo bloat except by centralization or forcefully shutting down the network.
Thanks. Please feel free to shill the coin you like as long you provide a detailed argumentation. Personally I like Bitbay and you can read the reasons in the screenshot I provided earlier.
David Thomas
Nice, so I'm just gonna test that tomorrow
And I agree, hate the shilling most of the time because of the lack or arguments behind it.
But when it's well backed I think it's fine and can be very interesting.
Matthew Stewart
You can clearly see how much volatile is ETH. Just check out pic related the chart. They have literally no plan to become price stable. No decentralized peg, and even no centralized peg (the only one that they could pull of as much the blockchain is bloated). Ethereum is literally doomed because either it will die either it will centralized. And centralizing is like dying in crypto. And the bloat can't be undone.
MakerDAO isn't ready yet, but really I don't know how it's gonna work.
John Flores
Great! If you want any support, you can found some nice helping persons on the slack of it. Here's an invit:bitbay.market/wp-login.php?action=slack-invitation Currently the GUI is old fashioned and not very sexy but it is working fine. Although they listened to the community so a brand new GUI will soon be released. You can see that on the roadmap pic related.
Thank you for your appreciation. I hate shilling too. I just want good crypto discussions backed by arguments. I talk about bitbay because I genuinely love the project and see great future in it for the previously mentioned reasons. We absolutely need a decentralized crypto marketplace that is secure and reliable to enable world wide mainstream crytpo adoption and Bitbay is literally the most advanced project regarding this task. So it has HUGE potential. The price is still low so it is a great time to buy.
Jaxon James
I have 50,000 Feenix and when feenix hits an exchange it will probably be worth around $4 so thats $200,000 nigga. Feenix is a P2P distributed file-transfering platform.
Cooper Ross
Looks cheap enough, guess it's finally time to get a BAY bag
Cameron Brown
Where are the arguments? Why would it be of worth? Why do I need this "Felix" to do peer to peer file transfering? How is it better than torrents and already existing stuff?
You must be the first person on Veeky Forums I see that is smart enough to know when to buy. Right now it is the general altcoin dip. Free discount for everyone. Veeky Forums is always winning to buy at ATH but always forgets to buy the dip. That's smart of you. Especially as Bitbay is a very good project with a future. It even has a partnership with blocknet as it will be trading enabled on the blocknet platform which the first decentralized exchange ever. Yes I am bullish.
Jackson Williams
>it is not sidechain based muh bloat what is Raiden, sharding, etc.
