Göbekli Tepe

So who made it? Were there really advanced civilizations before the "flood" ?

Also, since when "flood" is an actual historic thing?

There's nothing advanced or even civilized about a bunch of carved pillars

Nothing advanced about moving 50 tons of rock and aligning it toward the Taurus constellation, which just so happens to be the direction where the comet that caused to young dryas to occur
>Nothing
>Advanced
Yeah okay

>50 tons

lol???

>aligning them

pseudoscience bullshit

>comet

lol? pseudoscientific bs

So Stonehenge is what to you ?

Black Turks made it

A troglodyte bunch of stone slabs, but somewhat more complex than Gobleki Tepe since the stones weighted 20 times more than those at GB and were brought from far away

requires coordinated effort and resource management

So does Karnak in France or Stonehenge in England but no one calls those "civilizations" let alone advanced civilizations

>But somewhat more complex than Gobleki Tèpe since the stones weighted 20 times more than those at GB and where brought from far away

Okay but the rocks at Göbekli Tèpe are literally 2 to 3 times heavier and they were excavated thousands of years earlier. Not to mention that their are many sites on the mountain top that get smaller in size the newer they are, which definitely begs some questions.

No one makes the claim that this proves civilization, simply that man during and before the ice age was much more advanced than previously thought as proofed by the moving of 60 tonne rocks up a mountain side.

GT was the most advanced proto-civilization of its time not that there was competition.

Atlantic Megalithic culture was alright for it's time and represents a later type of proto-civilization.

Coastal archeological dives are neccessary if we ever want to find an equal to the hunter gathers at GT

>Okay but the rocks at Göbekli Tèpe are literally 2 to 3 times heavier and they were excavated thousands of years earlier.

No they're not

>thousands of years earlier

And?

Yeah, like what 1000 years before the ice age in the place which later became the birthplace of civilization for obvious reasons, not 100,000 years ago nor in any other part of the world, doesn't change much, just pushes back the chronology thousand years earlier, the geographical area is still basically the same

There's a lot of coastline around the world. Even if such a lost pre-proto-civilization ever existed we might never find it.

"Pseudoscience" doesn't mean what you think it means.

>Geographical area is basically the same
Your discounting the ice age that changed about 400 feet of water.
>No their literally not
Source?
>Thousands of years earlier
Which as the other user pointed out shows a high level of organization and stone working thousand of years before we see it in other areas, which suggest a level of development not found elsewhere.

That's true, but at less you have a general idea of where the water level has risen the most over the thousands of years.

>Source?

Eyes, retard

get out this board isn't for you

You can accurately measure weight with your eyes?

Convincing, sure beats my source

I wonder what weights more, 1-2 meters tall stone slabs or 4-5 meter tal ones which are also wider and larger, retards like you should be aborted

Depends on the stone dipshit, fuck me

Is this a real post?

>Each pillar has a height of up to 6 m (20 ft) and weighs up to 20 tons.
>The biggest of them lies on the northern plateau. It has a length of 7 m (23 ft) and its head has a width of 3 m (10 ft). Its weight may be around 50 tons. The two other unfinished pillars lie on the southern Plateau.

except GT predates them by fucking 5000-7000 years

Should be noted the 50 ton pillar is not a pillar at all, but a half carved rock that they didn't get out of the ground because it was too big.

So technically, the mechanics of Stonehenge is more impressive- larger stones, larger distance.

What makes GT good is the timeframe -it's astoundingly early- but then maybe that isn't so much of a comparative accomplishment if people have been living in the area for 7000 years earlier than humans had been living in England.

It was cracked, you have no idea why it wasn't moved

And? Fucking retard

Most stones at Stonehenge weighted 50 tons, GB stones weighted 20 on average, suck it

I'm not even the user arguing against, but it's not true that most stones were 50 tons and the one that was, got left in the quarry for no one knows why, other than it has a crack in it, but it's all speculation

No civilizations to speak of, but the myth of flood was made to explain rising sea levels in mesolithic period.
As for who made it, early agrarian communities in late mesolithic and early neolithic are best candidates.