Are you conservative, Veeky Forums?

>apolitical

No such thing, kiddos.

I'm a lefty socialist and I lift. 95kg 6'1 fite me irl Veeky Forums

I wouldn't say conservative, I don't really care about gay marriage or drug legalization but I am right wing economically.

I am an old school commie

If it weren't for the people actually in the modern Conservative movement, I would 100% identify with being a Conservative.

im a rightist. i think trump is a leftie

/pol/ isn't a single person. I don't visit there often, but actual facists seem like minority. And praising nazis is like like being ironically homo on Veeky Forums - just a joke.

95kg of fat. Post pics, bruv. I don't believe you.

.30 cents have been deposited into your account

I think this is true to some extent. I fall on the political right myself, though I am not american.

Strong men know the value of hard work and perseverance and as a result, don't vote left because the left is obsessed with handouts.

Politically, I don't consider myself conservative, but a thing I've noticed recently is that I'm more annoyed by whiny behaviour. I'm not sure if it has to do with my being older (28), lifting, the fact that I used to whine a lot myself, or other factors, but I can't stand reading Reddit posts about kids complaining about irrelevant shit who try to turn their corners of the internet into hugboxes. What's more is that people will actually indulge them.

This is kind of why I've regressed to Veeky Forums. This place may be a shit hole, but at least people aren't afraid to tell you to stop being a bitch.

my nigguz

Muh nigga

I'm more conservative now than when I was young.

>everyone is equal, and if they're not, we'll force them to be equal

I don't understand how someone can lift to improve themselves and think that.

Literally the only reason is because I used to work in a workers cooperative. The pay was amazing and for the first time in my life I wasn't some shithead taking orders from Massa.

I want all workers to be able to experience that. I am indifferent to gay marriage and trannies and all that

ours turned into the mafia in 'mericaland and just made it so people who deserved to get fired couldn't get fired.

>not lifting for the commune

>Everyone is equal, economically
>The only thing separating people is their professions and their hobbies
>Lift, yoga, and martial art classes (or boxing, wrestling, what have you) to become the most physically impressive
>Take up habit of reading textbooks to improve knowledge
>Leave the vacuum of pointless existence having become one of the greatest of your race, rather than selling your soul to competition for money
I'm the first guy quoted in your comment, I do not speak for the others. They have their own motivations.

/pol/ and Veeky Forums are not allies
some /pol/ faggots come here and try to force this meme but Veeky Forumsizens are not interested in /pol/'s bullshit in any way, we come here to talk about fitness

wow you are so smart, let me suck you dry, n-no homo

My own personal redpill (not /pol/-tier) is that equality is a completely backwards belief and that human existence is founded on competition and hierarchy based on merit.

I think we're seeing a lot of numales and sjws nowadays claiming to deserve simply because they breath instead of earning their equality.

>racist
>far left

my nigga

nothing wrong with that statement if you view the left/right dichotomy as authoritarian/libertarianism, aka state control vs personal autonomy

>the workers whose labor made rich men rich are less than human and who cares if they have to work two jobs to stay under a roof

The rich are parasites who will not compensate the people unless forced.

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I hope you don't take this as shit posting, but I personally believe the whole pull yourself up by the bootstraps mentality is what fucked the world in the first place.
There needs to be a base level we all start at. I actually would prefer complete communism, where things are distributed as needed. Human error prevents such a thing from ever being implemented. If we could just do away with our violent nature and hostility toward each other, we could all focus on our own collective interests. Those interested in the sciences could push us to new frontiers, those interested in helping others could pursue medicine. That sort of thing. The problem with SJWs is that they think such a utopia is possible, and condemn others for shattering their safe little bubble. Bonus points: they get attention for bitching instead of doing something.

Communism never works.
Neither do communists, now that I think of it.
>inb4 le REAL goymunism never been tried maymay

> I personally believe the whole pull yourself up by the bootstraps mentality is what fucked the world in the first place.
but it's literally evolution

Bruh, I'm your age (+2 years) and a straight down the middle liberal, and I find myself agreeing more and more with conservatives and whatever else, but not because any of my views have changed that much.

yeah
keep improving and working hard son

you mite be CEO one day, mirite?

most people, especially on Veeky Forums have no idea what that means.

desu, America is pretty fucking rad.

My dad is nowhere near CEO and we live a nice lifestyle.

What's the point, though? He'll still get shit pay.
Better dead than red.

You know who supported robust social programs and nationalization of industry? HITLER.

>If we could just do away with our violent nature and hostility toward each other, we could all focus on our own collective interests
pacifism is impossible because violent humans will just invade you and replace you.

Even if you're a pacifist right now, you rely on other people to be violent on your behalf.

That's why I want democratized workplaces. And for some reason wanting the full value of my labor = numale cuck who gets dicked by Tyrone. I blame she's for trying to be left wing and forgetting the most important part of left wing thought, economics.

Fuck feminism and fuck left wing and right wing idpol

fuck off shill

and capitalism does...

Since the most successful collaboration between /pol/ and another board was GamerGate, I'd say their most natural ally is /v/.

Evolution exists primarily for those in the food chain. We have moved past that point in evolution. Evolution now stems from working as a collective, rather than an individual. No great achievement in the past couple thousand years has been done solely by one's own evolutionary thoughts. Calculus wasn't invented by the same person who figured out counting.

>Work 40+/Week to put myself through University for the next 12 years purely for the pursuit of knowledge
>Lift/play sports as a hobby so that I can get laid and become the most fit possible
I do more work in a day than you do in a week, Comrade.

Hence why I said the problem with SJWs is that they live in la-la land where humans will work collectively for a common good. You are arguing a point I have already acknowledged and addressed.

>Everyone is equal, economically

In what manner?

Economic equality is the first goal. Creating an economic equality would remove classism from the picture, which is currently what holds humanity back the most.

Politics are for retards that think voting matters. Fuck Hilary and fuck trump too. Just focus on your own life because you are literally powerless to change anything.

Also, not related to fitness. Mods pls delete

>You are literally powerless to change anything
Good goy, my boy

Well then go out and change the world you deluded motherfucker. See how far you fucking get

>Being a dirty commie
>Not Pumping4Trump

Evolution doesn't stop even though we got out of the food chain.Intraspecies competition is a kind of natural selection.
Selecting the strong and smart while the weak and dumb stay behin is a fundametally good thing from a rational standing.

Also saying "if we could do away witb human violence" =/= Adressing the problem. How would you go about doing that?
The only means i could think of is selection if individuals less prone to violence across multiple generations. And even then its impossible since violencd is not always done for the sake of violence. You would need a hivemind for total piece, and a world where everyone is so equal that not even their thougts differ doesn't sound that great for me.

I'm nothing. I just hate everyone who thinks they know anything about politics. SJWs are retarded. People who think everyone on the left are SJWs are equally retarded. Democracy is a good concept, but it doesn't work, because people are ignorant, think with their feelings and only listen to people that will confirm their own world views. Everything about politics just pisses me off nowadays.

while i place a lot of value of personal striving, i really hate the idea that politics should be reduced to any sort of survival of the fittest
the whole point of politics/any theory of society is that we are not reducible to our biology

I am describing the ideal, not the means of getting to the ideal. Only once we have established the best way to order society for the most benefit at the least detriment to itself can we discuss the means of achieving the ideal.
Ideally, everyone lives to their max possible life-span, no exclusivity, access to best possible education and medicine, the ability to freely choose career and study paths. Anything that does not physically or financially damage someone else is legal, and crime is completely eliminated. That is what I would deem as ideal.
Capitalism works by competition. That is, you do what you do for the purpose of monetary gain. This causes people to go to secondary education in fields such as law and business and engineering, regardless of if they have any natural inclination toward these fields. It's how you end up with so many people disappointed in their lives.
The ideal is not achievable. Our best option is to get as close to the ideal as possible. My political views center around the idea of bringing society as close to the ideal as possible. I don't have the delusions that society will reach peak performance, just that we should work our best to advance as quickly as possible.

>Our current economic system has many flaws, the poor in many cases are left to rot with no opportunity to improve their position, etc
>I know! Lets replace it with a totalitarian system that has failed numerous times in the past!

Le communism meme needs to die.

>Weak faggot detected

You like jamals cock?

Most my political views are right of centre

On that economic/political compass rating thing I think I got like .7 up and .9 right. Surprised no one has posted it in this thread and I can't remember the website

>Totalitarian system is Leninist Communism
Your first mistake is not understanding there are different forms of Communism. You see, Communism is a theory, that requires implementation, rather than just theory. The method of implementation determines the type of communism. There's Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, etc.
I understand it's hard to grasp your fragile mind around theories, especially ones that you don't like, but it really shows how well the capitalist system works if the majority of people can't think critically.

That's not how that word works retard

Go back to leftypol

>Big words, they hurt!

Many Many leftists here.

It just proves me what I already thought:

Veeky Forums is full of fat neckbearded faggots who think they lift because they carry their fat for 50m to the next burger station

Look man, think of a new economic system ok. Capitalism is bad but no one would prefer communism

Veeky Forums fucks traps and drools over other men's bodies. So, no.

Also I never seen fit hate on homosexuals openly we have a lot of bros here who are huge and like to dick other men and I can't talk shit because they deadlift more than me.

There was that thing with people obsessing about Trappy to the point where she had to leave, and even that might have been just a /pol/tard cross boarder.

Again, I've already said several times that I am not advocating communism. Communism is the ideal, perfect utopia. It is impossible. Fucking hell.

>You see, Communism is a theory, that requires implementation, rather than just theory

See, you are on to something there. Perhaps with a little more brainstorming and taking off the red goggles you will find out why your meme of an ideology will never make things better for the working class -or anyone else-, no matter the branding each leader slaps on it to remarket it.

It's a shame that capitalism never taught you how to understand what you're reading. I have not called for a communist society, dumbass. A communist society would fail due to human error. Pretty sure that's the 4-5 time I've said it.

/Thread.
Leftists, please go.

White people could make any political system work provided it was only whites.
>inb4 muh ussr
Slavshits aren't white

you are being trolled bro

He sure does! Liberals love miscegenation and complete degeneracy.

people who lift seriously are goal oriented and have strong work ethic, focus and willpower. these are not traits of liberals

He's the one doing the trolling. He is picking a single small slice of what the other user is saying and talking about it out of context over and over again

That's why there's fascism. Not Communism, nor capitalism.

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>weaklings cant lift the hammer
Yeah, and your socialist utopia will consider them equal to you, ya tard.

Fuck you bigot politics is a spectrum

Trump is the political equivalent of that DYEL pain in the arse that everyone knows who claims 'I totally benched 300lbs in high school bro' who can never back up his claims with facts
Don't understand why anyone Veeky Forums would support him - he looks like a bag of mouldy potatoes with a crude wig glued on top

Weaklings can calculate material requirements and test soil samples from the wheat field and I do, in fact, consider those things to be equal. But that sounds less cool.

yeah, /pol/ just get told to fuck off at best (viciously mocked usually).

I guess a lot of /pol/ is loser fueled (hence the pathological fear of getting cucked and losing "their" women).

Meanwhile Veeky Forums is high test and redpilled on women.

>high test

You mean the fat jabbas you define as "High test"?

Fuck off /pol/

>triggered

Just because you like your women fat as fuck, you degenrated shit

Seriously? It's not that difficult a concept.

>being ironically homo

Y-yep

I definitely lean more right since I started lifting. I think it's because most modern left leaning ideologies seem to demonize masculinity at every possible turn.

At this point I'm afraid of both right and left.

Better kill yourself

So did FDR to an extent.

> Evolution exists primarily for those in the food chain. We have moved past that point in evolution.

True. Also, dumbasses seem to have a hard time understanding the difference between evolution and social Darwinism. What they actually believe in is the latter while coaching it as the former.

but that isn't even remotley correct

left-right is more egalitarianism/inegalitarianism