/frauds/

send cash in an unmarked envelope with no return address stating in underground lingo what you want.

You better remember Moosey

this is so stupid

I was just going to use a bitcoin tumbler?

this isnt even that safe dude
you have to tumble the bitcoin if you want an address completely unrelated to you
seeing that the wallet related to you sent all the bitcoin to another wallet that was then used to buy drugs leads it straight back to you anyway

does no one just send money in an envelope in the states?

tumblers are all scams by the way

anyone who ever references them has never used one

Buy bitcoins and give them to the vendor. Don't buy multiple kg's

Police wont raid you unless you're buying an incredible amount of drugs (or live in australia/scandinavia)

im sure you could be right but just sending all the bitcoin to another wallet still isnt safe

Overkill unless you are buying weight
Even a cuck country like Sweden wouldn't bother to go through all the bother to investigate and track transactions for personal amounts

I buy my steroids with email money transfers directly from my bank account

you people are funny

hungry how do you deal with the extreme heat and humidity here in sweden? my room has been over 27c for the last 4-5 months

Steroids are legal in the UK

FEELS FUCKING GREAT

yes but just sending to another wallet is the same as just doing nothing, so why bother?
lots of ice water and constantly open windows
its gay as fuck to not have air conditioning

oh I agree, I wasn't the guy who made the original very stupid post, I'm just saying tumblers are one of the oldest bitcoin related scam

that and websites selling "hacked PayPal accounts with thousands of dollars in them" for a hundred dollars

Denmark is the same. It's fucking horrible.

Is someone going to tell him that's just a name not a trip?

Just pinned left quad and blood shot out.

Made sure to aspirate and no blood went in syringe so we're gucci there, and I also feel fine.

How much gear if any did I probably lose? I pulled the skin on my thigh tight so as to have the skin cover the injection after I pulled the needle out if that helps.

YOU BLEW IT

Antthing I can do about crippling calf pumps just from walking around? I was 10 mins late just now to class cuz I couldbt fucking walk. On 500 test 50 dbol

yeah it kind of makes sense to turn it into a scam
im sure there are legit tumblers out there, though
drop the dbol

>calf pumps
more like shin splints

I literally did that. Real good roids too. Legit pill press.

How many bottles of test u guise go thru on ur first cycle?

1

bout one a day

I have only ever ordered roids over paypal with my real name.

I don't know how to use pgp keys/vpns etc so if I want drugs off alphabay I literally just go to the public library and order them from the computers there.

There's still a paper trail there. Why would you just use buy a cheap laptop from a pawn shop and sit at mcdonalds?

How much aromasin should I have on hand, just in case, for my first cycle (500mg test-e 13 weeks, dbol kicker, nolva for pct)

1 pack or 2?

this dude just likes his nipples touched lmao i feel it

Did a 3 month cycle, gonna wait 2 months and run another cycle.

Convince me to wait 3 months in order for my body to recover.

Protip: you can't.

depends on how big a "pack" is
the packaging i have has 100x25 mg tablets and that should be enough for like 6+ months of blasting

Sorry.
30x25mg

Your mom worries about you and all the crap you're putting into your system.

My dad told me to tell him if I liked gear because he wants to try.

>gonna be roidin with my dad soon.

She actually asked me to hook her up with fat losing agents when I told her about my use of steroids.

She was raised in eastern Europe.

>tfw your mom wants to get swole

seeing as how youre doing dbol as a kickstart id get two, rather have too much than too little

Both my parents know I use. They didn't even seem phased. I told them. My mother checked my BP immediately; it came in as 119/57 so she didn't give a fuck.

My father was just impressed by my knowledge on the subject and told me to leverage it somehow.

Then I had them watch Bigger Stronger Faster and they were like "Steroids seem good. They belong in sports desu".

it certainly is better than using a regular email adress, using your real information and using only one wallet to buy steroids.

no

wtf happened

ded

>made the mistake of going to the university gym during the first 4 weeks of the semester at 4pm
well that was stupid

>mfw i will never have that moment

i went the first sunday back at opening and it was absolutely unusable

packs of indians at every bench

>packs of indians at every bench
Why about Indians is so terrible? I'm assuming they are the sort of Indians that were born in India. I just have never had much of a chance to interact with Indians from India, much less in a gym setting ,so I'm genuinely curious.

>t. ethnically Indian man born in USA

Only Indians I have ever had issues with are ones not born here. There is one at my gym that's huge and competes locally and he's a good lad

God that old dude doing golf swings is too real, there are a couple old dudes at my gym that use the cable crossovers to make weighted swinging exercises.

if my chest is flat when I raise my arms , does that mean no gyno ?

Did you guys hear manletgains is dead?
Apparently he got gyno and got depressed because he wasn't big enough so he killed himself.

>Did you guys hear manletgains is dead?
I really hope you're trolling.

I thought he was mentally doing pretty well with his chest acne subsiding.

:(

Okay not literally killed himself. But he stopped lifting. So that makes him dead to us.
But from what I was told he was getting worried about nips and didn't like how much work needed to be done to get big, so he stopped roiding and quit forever.

>without proper will power you will never be a big guy

OK this might just be autistic but bear with me /fraud/.

I've been lurking here for a while and decided to get bloods and do a differential diagnosis on myself and am now at a point that I need to decide whether to run a self-administered TRT protocol using UGL gear or bite the bullet and see a doc.

Pic related shows bloods. I'm using this:
ccjm.org/index.php?id=107937&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=366745&cHash=26b9f92a372e207038bfe1af96fd4bb7
As a reference for the science behind all of this.

Based on the chart they provide, because my LH/FSH is in range, I probably have secondary hypogondaism (SH).

Of all the causes for SH listed on their site I can think of three:

>(1) space occupying pituitary tumor
--- I'm ruling this out because I do not have "severe hypogonadism (serum T

I wouldn't bother with additional bloods.
Literally all endos do though. Atleast they definitely check for #1

I'd self medicate, 100mg/week Got me to 800ng/dl
So it we be cheap and over double your levels

Ever since i started taking caber i cant last longer than 2 fucking minutes

Is there a correlation between the two or is my dick playing games on me

So you're saying endos will screen for 1-3 as a matter of course? Or just for someone with levels similar to mine? Makes me wonder whether I'm potentially missing the real ailment by jumping straight to a treatment.

100mg/week leading to 800ng/dl sounds great. You must be a good responder to T. I was looking at cruise doses of 200-250ng/dl but if I'm going to be doing this long term I will try out 100 and see how I respond.

How's your refractory period?

10-15 minutes i guess

Is pip just pain or an indication that the muscle is damaged? Like, if I have mad pip in my glutes should I avoid putting strain on the area, or is it fine to just power throiugh?

hey

i'll planning on going back to school (grad school) next fall. it's been so long since college i've forgotten what university rec centers / gym schedules are like. what times are the best to go?

Power through. It's usually because you fucked up pinning and damaged surrounding muscle or your gear was brewed badly.

Life's suffering lads. I went from being -5/10 300lbs of fat with no muscle to 12% bf 210lbs 6'2", but I'm still insecure as fuck and have never had female interaction in my life other than having them check me out and causing their spaghetti fall out when I say Hello. The thought that I'm aesthetic and someday I won't be lonely is what keeps me going. Why am I such a timid phaggot when my test is so high? I got fit in isolation, because of a home gym and writing software at home, so I never really went out.

first pin was yesterday and I was fucking shaking, so that might explain it haha.

I'm kind of in the same boat, what helped to at least talk to them was calming myself down. When the grill AND you loose their spaghetti shit is bound to get weird, just go up to her as if u were approaching some 50ish clerk lady or ur mum or w/e.

a few weeks ago i forgot i pinned my right quad 3 days before and pinned the exact same location. that resulted in some mild PIP. in this case i'm pretty sure it was muscle damage / scar tissue related.

once during my first cycle around my 6th or 7th pin i got some PIP. then i got a mild fever and aches and chills all over my body (mostly muscles and joints) that lasted about 2 days. the pin site wasn't red or swollen. I asked around and was told it was "test fever" or some shit.

I like to heat the gear in hot water before pinning. That almost always does the trick for smooth pins. And relaxing / not tensing when you pin.

Redpill me on DHB

Seems like a dream compound - a weaker tren with almost no androgenic sides

brick says that it has killer killer PIP
look back a few threads. people on reddit agree.

i agree, seems like a dream

Just with low levels

I keep reading that cardio is essential for mitigating bad cardiac sides on gear. Is it applicable at low TRT doses? What is a reasonable cardio regimen on gear?

Is 30 mins 3x/week okay?

Thanks jerry. I think I'm content with my level of confidence in the logic for refuting 2+3 for now so I'll plan to start a cruise of 100mg/week and see where that puts me.

I'll wait to get asin first though because even at a low dose I'm concerned that my 15% or so bf will be a problem.

> oven dodger

I'm choking on laughter.

Not necessarily required at a trt dose
But that much cardio would always be beneficial

I have similar test levels to yours (322 when I got it checked and 385 when the doctor checked it), and they won't be giving you TRT unless you're old.
I even flat-out told the doctor my dick doesn't work half the time (which it doesn't), and he still said he wouldn't give me TRT unless it was drastically low, which is apparently a pretty common opinion.
He was like, "BLOODS LOOK FINE, COME BACK IF THE PROBLEM PERSISTS."
Fucking idiot. Didn't even check my estrogen... I'm trying to bring up my cardio in hopes that that's part of it. I'm not sure if it's even worth going back to him.

Anything help with pubertal gyno? Or am I totally fucked until I can afford surgery?

It's not. Try looking up different doctors in your area, endocrinologists specifically.
Although they are still shockingly ignorant on the subject, most of what they do is try to get women pregnant

I'll try to find one. These damned websites are so useless... I might have to just call that number they had me use before, but I don't know if I can ask them to give me a specialist.
To be clear, I'm not specifically seeking TRT. I want my dick to work.
Seems fair, right?

>mfw another upstart tried self-diagnosing himself after reading some shit on the internet.......I didn't spend decades of my life to get to where I am in life for some wanabee dougie howser to tell me how to do my fricken job

kek
I've actually never had a doctor like that. They've normally been pretty receptive to my questions based on online research.
Maybe they're just happy to see someone trying.

>"BLOODS LOOK FINE, COME BACK IF THE PROBLEM PERSISTS."
>It's not.

Alright y'all have sold me. Only thing I feel I'm missing out on is the ability to travel with gear since I won't have a prescription.

Just ordered a shit ton of pharma Nolva/Clomid/Asin/Ralox/HCG/duasteride so I'm equipped to deal with whatever sides my shitty genetics try and throw at me when I jump on.

Do I need caber? I'm not going to fuck around with deca or tren for a while (planning to cruise with plain TRT dose for 16 weeks and then think about blasts) but I've read that prolactin can cause gyno and I haven't gotten that (prolactin levels) tested yet. Would it be okay to just test prolactin after 8 weeks when I get bloods from being on TRT dose and seeing if it's necessary then?

Sup niggers, did bimbo an hero? I was trying to talk him down from it last night until he said he fucking hates all of us ect ect and I realized he's just a vain beta asshole and I really shouldn't care less if he removes himself from the gene pool

Did you not get the email? Dat is soon to be kill

Why did you quote me on the "bloods look fine" thing?

I always thing that fags
>who roid and try their hardest to convince other to roid
>fat shits who don't work arms and claim to care only about strength

aren't actually convinced of their choices themselves, and make try to alleviate their worrying by making everyone else make the same choice

Someone? Ive googled what i can but there's just a bunch of snake oil shilling

Since no one is repsonding in my thread I made.

What are the top prohormones for 2016?

All my prohomos please let me know, I need some natty gains that shoot me through the roof, thanks my liftawaffen SS

pheromones? like to dab on your neck so women will talk to you? where do you get them?

I've used one just fine

You are cancer

Are you referring to me () or the people I'm replying to?

Not sure what your point was. I understand that this thread is heavily skewed towards overlooking negative sides and glorifying steroid use. Just like /plg/ is probably skewed toward ignoring aesthetics and healthy body fat levels (I assume that's the other group you were alluding to).

Because it is an example of a situation where seeing a doctor (the need/usefulness of which I was debating in ) didn't yield any meaningful insight into the root problem.

Reading your anecdote confirmed the slight bias I have against seeing a doctor due most doctors' perception of TRT as something that is only useful for people with levels < 200 ng/dl.

>didn't yield any meaningful insight into the root problem
Got it.
I didn't have that bias before going, actually. I thought /fraud/ was full of shit on this one, but it turned out to be (anecdotally) at least more true than I expected.
>mfw he said there were tons of side effects to TRT

nigga you're the one asking about prohormones on an ethiopian recipe exchange forum

no wonder nobody wants to reply to your thread

LOL. WHERE DO I GO TO LOOK?? I REMEBER THE GOOD OL DAYS WHERE YOU COULD GET THAT POWDERED EPISTANE OFF THE ELITE FIT PLACE FOR 10$ A G. MAN WHERE THE FUCK HAVE THE TIMES GONE?