Any military people here?

>super high speed ruck sack

what the fuck are you talking about, where do you serve?

here we get the shittiests rucksacks i think ever made, they are so fucking horrible you have no idea, and they arent even used in combat anyway

but for OP, dont try to emulate the heavy rucksack thing, it will fuck you up with regular ones

I was being sarcastic, but I guess it didn't come through. Actually, for a single ruck march, I got to use one of the previous ruck sacks. The newer ones are much better. I think it's just rucking that sucks, not so much the ruck sacks. But my civilian frame backpack is much better, as one would expect.

Get fit enough that the thought of basic sounds kinda fun.

Get fast but don't fuck up your goddamn knees doing it. Don't do weighted runs, that's some Crossfit level stupid and you're just asking for injuries.

5 chin ups, 10 dips, 15 push-ups, 20 setups amrap and run 5km about twice a week. This is given you have a background in lifting so you're not some retard that gets hurt in basic.

Army nurse here. Basic was literally running and push ups and abs. Pretty shitty.

Just do those things. Throw in some chin ups to balance shit out. It's dumb and when you get to your unit it'll probably change. We work weird hours so we don't even PT together. I just lift and run.

not op but i plan on doing field medic work, what "route" did you take if you dont mind me asking? id really like to do rasp and socm but i understand how difficult that can be and would appreciate any advice you might have

>all in one day
all in a few hours

Make sure you shit within the first week of basic, or none of this training will matter.

And if you're not retarded, join the Air Force; lower or standards for the run, only 1.5 mile in under 11 minutes

I don't know what you mean by route. I went to basic at Fort Leonard Wood and then did AIT at Fort Sam Houston. Some other guys had Airborne in their contracts, and one or two from AIT had RASP.

If you want to go medic, then you have to take your ASVAB and go through MEPS. If you want something cool like Airborne or RASP, make sure you score above an 85 on the ASVAB and get mostly 1's on your PULHES score.

If you want something like RASP, walk out of MEPS if they won't put it in your contract. They might tell you that sometimes people get Airborne slots after AIT, that's bullshit. Get it in your contract or it won't be yours. You don't have to sign anything at MEPS the first time. Walk out. If you get a 90+ on the ASVAB, 111111 physical, and are in good shape, as soon as they get that RASP slot it will be yours. 68W is always there.

Then after you get your 68W you'll go to whatever school you got in your contract.

you pretty much answered me perfectly, thanks. and thanks for doing medical work and such. its good.

Just PT with the other poolees. Unless you are in high school, then you should get off Veeky Forums.

Go to the app store and type in 'fitness prep': its MARSOC's 10 week program and will detail and tell you everything you need to know

>Make sure you shit within the first week of basic, or none of this training will matter.
wut

Navyfag here.

Did the OCS route and earned my commission. PT wasn't that bad. The hard part was waking up at 4 in the morning to do our first PT test. The combination or fatigue and shitty food for the first few days made for a rough test. Still wasn't that bad tho. And as you progresses though, things got easier as you got used to it. As long as you put in some sort of effort to be in shape before goin you'll be fine.

What's it like lifting in the Navy? I'm joining the Australian navy soon and I'd imagine the fitness shit would be pretty similar to the USN.

Do the gyms on boats have barbells and shit or is it all just shitty machines?

I'm Aviation, shore based. The gyms on base are pretty nice.

Do they make you run much?

I can run 5km in 25 minutes and used to do it like every day but it's too hard to make gains when you do so much cardio.

What branch should I join if I'm 5'8", 120 lbs, and [spoiler]gay[/spoiler]?

In training, we ran 30 min Monday and Friday. Did intervals on Thursday. Tuesday was 200 meter runs with body weight exercises (push-ups, squats, etc). Wednesday was just body weight exercises. On the run days, as low my as you ran and didn't look like you were slacking, the Chiefs and DIs didn't bother you.

They actually cut back on running due to the high rates of stress fractures which made me laugh.

It's strength and endurance over gains and looks bro. Sooner or later you'd hit a weight plateau and pretty much stay there unless you hop on frauds, but i'm not sure how that'd fly in the army.

Geez the other branches sure fucking weak
>18 minute 3 miles
>20 pullups
>100 crunches

Also hike heavy shit up mountains all day and you'll be set op

Yeah I know, but I'd like to be able to maintain at 1/2/3/4 at least. Also I thought that maybe the fitness level in the navy would be a bit different to the army.

Hitting weight plateau isn't so bad. For me it was 80-82kg at 6'1 with around 9-11% bodyfat which looks nice, but not huge, more of a fighter look, than a builder. If anything i'd think navy/aviation needs even more cardio because of stress/g-force endurance requirements, but i'm talking out my ass here so don't quote me on that.

Join the navy and come bang with me user

>Make sure you shit within the first week of basic, or none of this training will matter.

Can someone elaborate on this point, or was that a typo?

>tfw want a recon contract
What sort of ability do i need in water?

I'm 23 bout to join the AF

What job should I try and get

Pilot obv

What if I, hypothetically, dropped out of college without so much as an associate's degree, and have spent the last year working a shitty warehouse job with the intention of going back to school, but has now realized after consuming large amounts of hallucinogenic drugs in the Sonoran desert on my free time that joining the AF is the probably the best way of getting an education.

Asking for a friend.

Pretty much what I'm doing. Lets do it. What jobs have you looked at breh?

You guys are going to neck yourselves before you finish basic.

If not, then you will within the four years you're waiting to get your beautiful bennies.

Community College 2x2
State University 2x2
-->>
OCS 1xF

rucking at all will fuck you up no matter what

I know so many guys in Army with shot knees and backs from years of rucking. No special backpack will save you

went to school with some Aus Navy, they get to grow out their beards, lucky fucks

Not op, but have similar question.

Navyfag here, trying to get into better shape.

My problem is the opposite of most fatties...I can do the run just fine, in fact I did a mock PRT a couple weeks ago and was solidly in the middle of the pack, beat a lot of guys who are way thinner than me that I didn't think I would stand a chance against.

My problems is the fucking situps.

I dropped to 5'11, 200lbs, from being 350lbs about two years ago...and I think that may have something to do with it. My hips and core are super weak from having a fucked up posture my whole life.

Any advice, other than "lose more weight" and "lift"? Been trying to do both, though gotta say losing weight is a lot harder compared to when I was a civilian and only had to worry about a shitty retail job + lifting.

All you need to know is that it's less than the Army and our Army is pretty easy

Join the Navy or Air Force.

Get a cushy tech job with a Top Secret security clearance, work in an air conditioned space. Have tons of time to work out.

And when you wanna get out companies will fight to get you to work for them.

>>if you do anything else you will regret it

maybe just do situps i gone from not being able to do 10 crunches to navy seal standards in 2 months
did dips pullups situps pyramid style every second day

Why would I neck myself? I was thinking about just going structural maintenance. They'll teach me all the trades over the course of 4-5 years. It'll be like any normal job.
You can't beat that skill set.
Then, I get out and reap the benefits. Sounds like a good time to me.

All in the same hour

Don't you guys know? If you don't shit in the first week of basic you're never gonna make it.

I forgot to shit in my first week, and I'm still a SGT. All my platoon mates have fucking stars

No I have a bigboy job.

This is what I'm doing. Navy CTI starting in December

...

Any advice for someone looking to join seal team 6?

>normal job

You clearly have zero insight into the military. Being in the military for your first enlistment can roughly be equated to having to dig through shit mountain with your bare hands for all of the kernels of corn.

It's a fucking stupid task, that you have to do a retarded way, and ultimately what you're getting out of it is just more shit.

However, once you get through the first enlistment it can be "close" to a normal job.

Two word counter argument: Force Projection.

Thank you based military industrial complex

I heard a great story about when captain price enlisted long ago as a young man of 18 (note: this is even before day one of basic training), whilst being interviewed by an army recruiter he stopped answering the army recruiters' questions and just stared at him dead in the eye for five minutes, for 5 long minutes it was very quiet in that room, not a sound.
Suddenly, in flash movement Price takes his pants off with one hand, jumps up on the recruiters' desk and takes a MASSIVE dump right in front of him, then continues to stare the recruiter dead in the eyes...

That's all it took, in the 12 minutes he was in that room, he managed to go from a young highschool boy straight into the SAS bypassing basic training, bypassing all specialised training.

Taking a shit is very important, the timing is everything.

Lt in a country in Africa here, would recommend.

Prepare to sign away your entire life. You have to serve years on a tier 2 seal team to even get a shot at devery. You better be absolutely disgustingly in shape. Able to run miles and miles and miles and do thousands of push-ups per day. And then if you can do that you still have to be in the top 1% mentally for toughness as well. Let alone that if they find the slightest thingredients wrong in your physical, like dirty ears, you will be recycled. Also try to make sure you're not a pussy and really think hard about being surrounded by dead bleeding bodies. There's no real way to mimic it, closest you can get is see if you can kill and skin a deer yourself without any hesitation. Plus the psych evaluation could find something wrong you didn't even know you had. War ain't no joke kid. You will come back different. Make sure you're ok with that.

Uganda?

No, not Uganda.

Two words: Otter mode.

Well, watch out for Malaria nonetheless. That shit is no joke.

Here's how you avoid your homosexuality making people hate you;
Don't fucking make every single thing about how you're gay. At my recent Officer training we had one faggot who would not shut the fuck up about being a fag. He actually tried to bait people into saying homophobic things so he could complain to the EO people. Needless to say, we all hated his fucking guts.

thanks mate, we got pills and go for medical check ups quite frequently.

>AF fag here
To oversimplify the answer: All the branches require you be a pro at calisthenics and cardio. Some will have a waist requirement or if you plan on doing something more "elite" they may want you to be good at swimming.

The only way to "git gud" is to just do it. Get yourself to a 6 - 7 minute mile and sustain that for 3 miles. Get to where about 100 push-ups/situps don't phase you. If you can get to this point and maintain then aside from the retardation that comes from being in the military you should survive the physical fitness portion of it easily.

>1.5 mile run in 11 minutes.
Thats my time but not the minimum. Its easier than that (13:39)

Probably AF (No homo). But not because I want moar gays in my branch but they tend to be more "tolerant"(lack of a better word) of it. (Probably due to a higher standard of living - ie; we normally dont stuff 20 dudes into a tiny metal tin can and expect you to live and breathe that shit for 6 months in the AOR.

Depends on what your goals are. If you want a cushy desk job and to ride your 4 years out in style be a nonner and work finance or MPF in general.

So long as you don't do drugs now and you don't pop on piss test you're fine. The only issue you havebis whether or not to tell the recruiter about your drug history. If it was EVER documented at all then tell.

Jesus no. Why would you willingly subject yourself to that shit job?

Military physical standards are a joke OP.

Have good aerobic/cardio endurance and be able to tolerate some stupid goon telling you you're worthless while he makes you do mountain climbers.

Technically MCs and 8ct bodybuilders aren't allowed in boot anymore but the RDCs in Navy still did it in 2012 when I went in

nah, not Africom. SANDF m8.

Amerifat physical standards are a joke. I remember training some of those U.S. infantry guys back in ~07/~08 for middle eastern type urban areas (which we have a lot of similar areas/climate/terrain etc) and those fuckers were lazier than shit.

Couldn't walk far, always wanted to drive, never wanted to carry shit.

I don't know who the fuck we got to train but they were pussies.

I don't understand how a job in the military is worth it, especially deployment roles.

Tell me why it is worth it.

Pretty solid way to turn you from a SJW nu-male into a man.

It's not. Just go to college and get a real job.

We pay taxes too you retarded fuck.

>Captain
>enlisted

Officers dont enlist they commission

>Officers dont enlist they commission
you gotta enlist and do the training before they select you for your officer training. Once you are done, then you are commissioned as on officer.

At least this is how it works in my country.

But you're paid by those taxes. Don't you see how you could just skip the step of playing soldierboy and go into the workforce? It will help your career later on in life. Trust me.

>AF fag perspective:

Do 20 years - "retired" by potentially 37 and get 1/2 a paycheck for life (at E7 that roughly equates to like 1500-ish a month not doing a damn thing)
Also - free medical/dental (its shit though, like 1 tier above obama care but its "free" aside from co-pays)
Have 20 years to pursue a free college degree in fuck all you want.
Also one free certification (Like A&P license)
Get out still have GI Bill(can even do 4 years and get this). (Which potentially could pay you E5 BAH while you attend "somewhat" paid for classes. (BAH where Im stationed at now for E5 is like 2k a month. I can easily find an apartment for about 1k. So pocketing 1k a month just cause.)
Whether you do 20 or 4 years if you get a worthwhile job in the military and can take that free training and experience and boom shit hot resume for civilian equivalent when you are done; WITH veteran's preference points to boot (puts you like 3 tiers above just getting out of college normies and one tier above your experienced civvies.) I have private businesses literally head hunt for our career field and I could easily drop this mil-shit and start working at 33/hr in the civilian side.
Veteran's preference for just about any job you apply for.

Deployments do suck but you can get some pretty sweet overseas assignments and tdys (The government literally pays you to travel the world and see shit - Ive been to puerto rico, england, scotland, ireland, germany, africa, guam, japan, korea, etc...)

Also, deploy for 6+ months to a tax free area and you only file taxes for the months you are taxed and so as a resukt your taxable salary is less which drops your tax bracket and you get more back on your return.

>$1500/month
This is why I'd rather get a bigboy job. I can't just sit around and collect checks. Not my mo.

>I don't want free money.
Are you fucking retarded?
>Work big boy civy job.
What is a 401k?
Oh that shit you can't touch until you're 65? Oh ok.

>Pro-tip: we have a TSP/401K too.
How much of your retirement plan does your company match you?

Not saying we don't need a military but I'd rather make much more in the private sector. Plus I'm probably too old to join at my age. And as previously stated, I can't just sit around doing nothing collecting checks. Idk how welfare/boots can do that.

>mfw I can do 1.8 miles in 16 minutes

Unless you're fat, you don't need to train before bootcamp. That's what bootcamp is for: to condition you. I mean, you could make it easier on yourself but you're not going to impress anyone.

Despite my earlier posts I agree, with reservation, that if you make a pretty decent dollar (like 150K+) then the military is absolutely not for you.

As far as age goes I think the lowest cap is 28 (marines) and highest being 39 air force) so if you float above 39 you are probably well situated in life anyways (>implying)

The argument is laid out there though for the blue/shit tier white collars who think that its more efficient to just go to college, collect a nice loan debt, then work themselves back to ground level by starting at an entry level position. And thats assuming they didnt waste their childhood studying their asses off to make grade for scholarships and bend themselves over backwards working internships (literally slave labor). All within 4 - 6 years wherein with that same amount of time you could garner job training, management training, college (with the ability to continue further education up to 10 years later, for free) and then slide right in to a middle management position making more and being in charge of these civvy mooks who took the "high" road.

>Sit around doing nothing.
The MAJORITY of us that retire usually don't. There is this morbid joke that after 20 years pf constantly moving if you just stop you will probably be dead in less than 4 years tops. It is usually applied more towards those 30 year E9s that wind up dead one day after being 6 months retired.

>tfw I'm probably too big already
>tfw I'll probably lose my precious gains during basic
>tfw I probably won't be able to go 200 lb

How are you supposed to make running gains AND pushup/pullup gains?

go for a run then do pushups then do pullups. nimrod