Specifically how did France manage its colonies different then Great Britain? How come French colonies such as Syria or Indo-China would become places of great conflict? The only thing I currently know for sure about French colonial rule is that they tended to kill more of the local population than any other nation, Syria for example close to 50% of males between 20-55 were killed. Other than this what did France do to its colonies good and bad, and why did they do it in this way?
Lincoln Rivera
>muh genocide
Same as the Algerian "Genocide", it never happened.
Jack Lopez
All I can say is
Anglo colonialism>>>>>>
Jeremiah Jenkins
OP here, forgot to mention this but keep the /pol/ white race crap off of here please, and I don't know why I didn't mention this in the first place since african colonies is sure to attract /pol/ fags yelling WE WUZ KINGS as to why French colonies suck
Owen Bell
>French colonial rule threadSyria for example close to 50% of males between 20-55 were killed. Source?
Tyler Butler
It was mentioned off-handedly in a Len Deighton non-fic as the reason why the Free French army had so many Algerians but no very many Syrians in it, other than that I don't know anything about it and seems to be fake otherwise, although France DID have to put down several uprisings so maybe this is what is being referred. Again I don't know anything on this subject and have only heard traces of rumors.
Owen Torres
France had a tendency to educate the natives (enlightenment and shiet you know). All the countries that were educated ended up in rebellion and war, leaded by the most educated individuals who sometimes studied in France. The less educated gained independence quietly.
Joshua White
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Jason Harris
Well first off France saw its colonies as a quick cash grab and nothing more,take for instance after the 7 years war how France in the peace talks traded Quebec and Acadia, which had large populations and the monopoly of fur trade, for a Saint Lucia which had spice, spice at the time was rare since India hadn't fully opened up yet while fur had to be negotiated with the Natives, of course France didn't like this. This stayed true for most of France's colonies, where Britain and other powers would build infrastructure in order to access resources better, France did none of this, as that takes time and money and they want those spices NOW DAMN IT. As well during the 20th century Britain realized that its colonies and settlements were developing an identity, and so at least some form of local representation was created albeit usually more of a token gesture than actual working gov't, meanwhile France did none of this instead taking random locals and "europeanizing" which France got from Haiti and the whole deal with Louverture, which went absolutely splendidly(see Arminius and teutoburg forest). In short France didn't really accommodate or have any long term plans, and so that is why its colonies kind of went to shit because they didn't have any real supporting structure.
Levi Lee
I think the type of education the French gave to its colonial students also made a difference. It's not like Oxford or Complutense would ever produce this stunning gem.
Jaxon Green
the french are incompetent they have always had the biggest population in europe, at least until a few centuries ago that means they were capable of giving the impression of being a major, powerful nation in reality they are fuckwitted fucktards with borderline fucking autism
Easton Powell
and where is your hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>Historical Evidence??????
Charles Ross
>they have always had the biggest population in europe That's a meme created to explain why French kicked the ass of Europe so many times, the true explanation is that French are racially superior.
Nolan Jenkins
You mean regarding the atrocities commited to the original populace?
Isaiah Campbell
France welcomed the colonized peoples into Metropolitan France. If they learned the french language, they could "come home". The brits never did this. This spread the egalitarian spirit of the Revolution throught the world.
Evan Jenkins
You are an idiot.
Charles Long
Hey fucktard wrong board
Benjamin Russell
Indeed there is a major difference here. Anglo education produced Gandhi, an effeminate faggot afraid of violence... There must be something in the food served in the school canteens.
Michael Gray
>France welcomed the colonized peoples into Metropolitan France. If they learned the french language, they could "come home".
In theory. In practice France really didn't want natives running to France in large numbers them facing the inevitable fact that in the metropolis eyes a nigger/jungle gooke in a suit is still a nigger/jg
Dominic Gonzalez
Can we talk about French salt taxes in Vietnam?
Jonathan Perry
About the only halfway decent anglo place on that chart is the white part of south africa.
Jayden Robinson
Take Haiti for an example. France put zero effort into Haiti, they treated it as just an island for resources. Laos, Camnodia, Vietnam at least had long term resources and indigenous people that would fight to protect themselves. The French were never very good at conquest.
Matthew Carter
>Colonies and Africa are mention >3/5 replies involve "Nigger, white race, anglo-superiority, only good part is white part"
I didn't realize /pol/ was moving in
Jackson Morales
And rhat relied on the non-white parts.
Julian Taylor
You know that Nigeria and Egypt are two of Africa's most densely populated nations right? The fact that Nigeria has 4.5 times Algeria's population yet only a little over twice Algeria's wealth should tell you something.
Isaiah Moore
Algeria's a weird case in that the Frogs actually intended to integrate it as a real part of France, and thus the focus was less on exploitation and more on making it somewhere a Frenchman would actually want to live. A more apt comparison would be looking at the states surrounding Nigeria.
That being said, I'm surprised it's still holding up so well given how brutal the independence war was.
Isaiah Flores
>How come French colonies such as Syria or Indo-China would become places of great conflict? How did this meme begin? There were wars of decolonization in British colonies too (Kenya, Malaya), and Dutch and Portuguese as well. Meanwhile most French colonies decolonized completely peacefully. It was common to all colonial powers to have at least a few colonies that got independence violently, while most were peaceful. There were plenty of differences between the way different empires were run, but this wasn't one of them.
Alexander Scott
Hey, faggot. Wrong website.
Christopher Butler
Botswana isn't even on the list and its very stable and developing.
David Bennett
It's because it's a table of nominal GDP. Should be PPP per capita, but then that wouldn't fit the narrative
Connor Price
woah.... you mean that if a country has larger colonies, and hence more people in their colonies, these will thus have greater GDP? Is this the power of Veeky Forums....?
Ayden Torres
Those educated and elevated by the french went to france. French colonial policy structured its exclusion on culture: it would ban this or that cultural practice near its population centres, but for the odd person who went to the trouble of discarding them and working on their latin conjugation there was no reason to keep them out. They became properly french and received every right and protection afforded to all citizens. Once you have that, who gives a fuck about Senegal when you can go to Provence? Not so in english colonies. Doesn't matter what you learned or who from, a colonial subject is a colonial subject. consequently, in the process of decolonisation there was much less brain drain, because the colonial intelligensia had no reason to be loyal to the isles.
Sebastian Williams
>Meanwhile most French colonies decolonized completely peacefully.
Vietnman and Algeria had a huge war. Guinea when it went independent before France let the rest of FrenchAfrica go which made France Angry so the French stripped everything that wasn't bolted to the ground and left. Also for French Africa, France is balls deep in it way more then most most ex imperial power by far and is basically involved in every facet of that groups structure.
Liam Edwards
Yet the English generated a fuck ton of Indian educated people.
The educated ones in Senegal had to trucking BEG to be treated respectfully and receive properly representation in French politics. In the Four Communes in Senegal those who were born in these towns could technically enjoy all the rights of native French citizens, but substantial legal and social barriers prevented the full exercise of these rights, especially by those seen by authorities as 'full blooded' Africans. The very few number of Africans who were able to pursue higher education and were willing to renounce their legal protections could 'rise' to be termed Évolué ('Evolved') and were nominally granted full French citizenship.
The French ideal of assimilation is a fucking farce because deep down they never were into it, it was only a token gesture to appease the French people into accepting Frances actions in it's global endeavors. Evolueé still faced massive discirmantion abroad and in Africa. The fuckton of people vouching for independence were "Assimilated" natives lol.
John Rivera
The english could generate educated subjects well enough, but it could not (or would not) enfranchise them and give them a place within the british polity. They had a lot to gain from independence and real skills to make it sustainable.
French assimilation was a farce, that's beyond doubt, but it was not the british policy of honest exclusion. It took considerable pains and efforts to become one of frances token assimilates, more than to become an educated indian, because the french colonial subject has the added burden of having to learn an alien culture by heart and from scratch as part of his social advancement.
Do not take this to mean I am boosting the french above the english: quite the opposite, actually. As has been said, former english colonies do better than former french, and it's not for nothing. As you've noted, assimilates faced significant discrimination based on this farce, and by the temperament enforced by their colonial learning were unsuited for nation-building.
Hunter Kelly
>accuses people to be /pol/ >references 3/5ths compromise
Gabriel Phillips
>Gandhi, an effeminate faggot afraid of violence. really made me think