/MHG/ - Mental Health General

You literally just tell them that brah. You're gonna make it. You're a sik cunt if you want to be not a sad cunt.

>do no fap
>do no porn
>last for about a week and a half, think I'm doing good
>just relapse to some of the most degenerate shit i've ever watched yet
I'm just waiting for the day I start fapping to traps, then I'll know I'm done for

>post strategies that have worked for you to unfuck your shit
>tfw nothing have worked and you're at the end of the line

Reading that greentext made me tear up because I've sunk so much over the past few months.

God I'm fucked.

I was depressed for a long while and eventually had a psychotic break, where I felt like everything was unreal and I was dead. Here's my major advice for a good healthy psyche:
Idle hands are the devil's plaything, the more I do, the more productive and happy I am. I got a job, go to school, lift and have a nerd hobby. Long hours gaming doesn't count, just makes me existentially sad.
Sleep, long and regularly. The less you sleep, the worse it'll be. Go to bed early, and wake up early. The later I stayed up the darker my thoughts get, so going to sleep before they got bad is a big deal, and waking up early gives you the energy to do things.
Lastly, don't wallow. You find yourself slipping in to the negative, just think to yourself "I'm feeling this way, and it makes sense why, but I shouldnt" slowly change your thought patterns. Be in control of your thoughts and actions, this will feel empowering as you will feel like you have control over yourself, and then your surroundings.

Hope these help

Life isn't always smooth sailing no matter how good our intentions. You're gonna be ok bro.

No you're not m8. We're all gonna make it.

That is pretty good going. You're being hard on yourself. It's the start and it's a marathon not a sprint. You're gonna make it brah.

Also less sleep equals worse brain, lack of sleep lead to my psychosis.

>mfw I have that exact hoody

>psychotic break

Had one a little under a year ago. Truthfully I think I'm still recovering.

Need that final nudge and I think I'll be able to carry on. Fitness has been the first step, wasn't fat just a lazy fuck with high anxiety and neuroticism.

Remember that therapy and meds are important if you have actual mental health problems brahs.

Anyway that has a proper healthcare system you can get CBT & meds if you need them and are having acute problems.

Always recognizing my WHY. You always have to have a why.. The reason you do something. The reason you wake up, get up, and never give up.

Agreed. Self control isn't only staying away from the negative, it's understanding why you do what you do and making the choice to do it.

>After I get what I want, I just kinda phase them out and bring in new ones.
Youre not a psychopath, youre an asshole

Same. Smoking weed guarantees I'm going to have a bunch of anxiety and suicidal thoughts.

The only thing that consistently works for me when I spaz out is just physical exhaustion and an ice cold shower.

I normally just go running and push myself as hard as possible and then do the shower.

Not really. There doesn't always need to be a specific reason to do something, and when you fin yourself inventing reasons, that just ends up with you lying to yourself even more and doing more harm.

Probably because you guys are getting shitty brick weed or schwag.

So I was a depressed /r9k/ poster recluse from the age of 14 to 18. I slept 4 hours a night, took heavy medication, ate less than 1000 calories a day, fapped 3 times a day, didn't talk to anyone other than my parents for months on end (who I don't get along with.)

I managed to get though school with decent grades, should have done far better though. I'm studying computer engineering in college.

A few things that I do to try and drag myself back to normalcy.

>get up at 5.30am everyday, no exceptions. I have a streak of 3 weeks going right now. It got a lot easier after the first day or two.
>go to the gym pretty much every single day. If I feel I need rest I just go do some light cardio, go for a quick swim then use the sauna. The important thing for me is buliding up the habit every day.
>eating properly is the hardest thing for me to do, I may have an un-diagnosed eating disorder. Don't have much advice about this.
>don't watch porn, as a serious addict who got into some depraved shit (nothing illegal but I was heading down that road if i didn't stop), I now only masturbate once or twice a week. Only to softcore non - nudity pics / imagination. Nofap was impossibly difficult for me, if you are a true addict you need to ween yourself off gradually.
>I try to spend 9 hours a day working. This is pretty tough but I'm slowly building up to it. If I spend 9 hours a day working everyday for the next 3.3 years, that's over 10,000 hours of work, which is meant to be the level where you become an expert.
>by 23 I should be an expert on electronics and computers. I'm on course to get a first class honours degree. I then want to do a masters in finance in an ivy league college and try to break into investment banking / financial technology.
>I wrote this down on a sheet of paper and I refer to it every morning and every night. Any time I feel like my life is shit (happens a lot) I remind myself of my goals.

1/2

>I feel like nothing can match the shit I've already been through mentally. I feel a lot tougher than my peers. I have spent my life up until now suffering. I was on the verge of suicide for a long time. In some ways I am thankful for this experience, as now I can enjoy simple things. People who don't suffer don't grow.
>On top of that, any problems I have now seem comical in comparison. I'm amused when a girl rejects me, or when I do poorly in an exam. I'm happy that now I have normal people problems, just like everyone else.
>Any time I feel weak, I watch motivational videos, listen to motivational music, anything to get me over the hump. I read this multiple times every day :

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeoning of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find me, unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.

Now, everytime I feel shitty, I see it as a way of growing. I keep my mouth shut, I work harder and eventually things get better.

Tough times don't last, tough people do.

Cold turkey never worked in regards to fapping for me. I used to be unable to fall asleep until i masturbated and that was when i did no porn which is just a huge meme in my opinion. You should try and just fap every second day.

My dick used to be fapped raw and actually hurt. Now i can manage to not fap for 2 or even 3 days and feel a lot better. Ive also stopped death gripping that shit.

Just some incoherent food for though.

gradually work yourself back. Gradually build the degenerate level back, day by day. Eventually go to just regular hc Brazzers shit. Then just solo or cam girls. Then softcore videos. Then hardcore images. Then softcore images. Then finally just your imagination. Eventually start cutting down on how much you masturbate. I think twice a week is the healthiest.

This is if you are a complete degenerate addict like I was. Otherwise you can go a bit quicker through the stages.

Very well written man, and very helpful.
I'm glad you got better, and I'm also glad you wrote this down, as it resonates with me.

There's still some stuff there you've written that I am yet to acheive, but it's promising to see others succeeding.

I went back to college recently after being a NEET for just over a year and it has severely improved my mental state, and also motivated me to stick to a diet and exercise regime.

This, this right here is how you make it.

I entered a crippling depression a few weeks ago and signed off work by the doctor as it got really bad. Iv'e started to keep myself super busy with anything possible. Painting, decorating, shopping, going for long walks and sleeping more. All the negativity with the depression has started to pass, I still have bad days but no where near what they were before.

>bf broke up with me
>too autistic to go to gym so ive just been doing cardio

i dont want to feel this feel

I've never understood this. It's great for relaxing after a long day and actually removes my negative thoughts.

I can't talk with people. I don't know what to say and always feel awkward around them and just think of ending anything, I just can't see any reason to live.

What kind of people are you talking to? You could try finding new friends, maybe even online just to practice conversation. And dont forget, even the coolest chads cant maintain a constant flow of conversation if the people theyre talking to dont care about the topic. Finding people you have something in common with is vital if you wanna leave social chitchat behind. CMON

I'm pretty happy and confident since I started lifting and meditating.
Used to be a ball of anxiety, now life's pretty comfy.

>too autistic to go to gym so ive just been doing cardio
How can you be too autistic to go to the gym?

last time i went somebody came up and gave me advice on my lifts. its been 6 months and i havent been back

So someone was friendly to you and tried to help you.
This somehow made you stop coming?
If this is such a big deal lift with earbuds in, people will get the message.

>What kind of people are you talking to?
Doesn't matter, I just find most conversations forced and pointless.
>You could try finding new friends,
Yeah but like I said already I can't talk with people and always embarrass myself.
>maybe even online just to practice conversation
What would be a good place to do so?
>And dont forget, even the coolest chads cant maintain a constant flow of conversation
I always hate when people use examples like this. Its not about being perfect 24/7 its about simply having a normal conversation and not embarrassing yourself all the time.

This.
Someone offered their help and you perceive this to be bad exactly why?

Some people are genuinely autistic here, and not in the meme way.
Get out more

therapy
was skeptical at first, but it really helped

i just got antidepreseants yesterday, should i keep taking modafinil (not prescribed) with pic related?

Nonmeme PTSD. Having some great success at brainspotting but I pushed it too hard so now I can't for a week :(

What is brainspotting and can you give me some good source about it?

Some people get very self concious on weed, which is not the best thing if you have lot's of worries and problems

After turning neet i found it very comforting to talk to people online just from video games. In my case that was comp tf2 (lmao casual game in comp). In the end it really doesnt matter tho. If you have any hobby try searching for a Veeky Forums discord. I think /sig/ (self improvement general) also used to have a nice discord.

discordapp.com/invite/0g3Wk6IMl2m0sKT2

The people there are bretty nice guys.

Sertraline is suppose to stimulate you a bit more than other SSRIs. Just check if Modafinil is okay with SSRIs in general. You'll probably have side-effects either way, so see how it goes.

Sertraline didn't go a goddamn thing for me, but I'm a manic depressive on a whole bunch of shit, so I'm probably not the best example. Paroxetine kicked my arse into gear and made me feel better than goddamn MDMA, but ended up in hospital from mania soon afterwards. Mixed bag this shit.

Not the other person but some people giving advice are absolute bro scientists and dont help at all when trying to get form down. This goes for half squatting and deadlifting with stupid hip angles.

I dealt with these people for a long time and got self concious but also smart enough to use a cell phone to record my lifts. Now i know that i can perform them just fine and ignore the know it all dyels.

Thank you Veeky Forums I did my first ever date this week, it lasted for 5 hours, all we did was talk but it was amazing, helped me get rid of my self-shitting mentality. She is coming again next week, I haven't made it yet, but i'll get there, I think personality is very important. She is a very sweet girl, non-degenerate how do i corrupt her because the thought of doing so makes me dick hard as diamonds.

Has anyone here gone to a doctor for depression/anxiety?

>how do i corrupt her
Hope she dumps you and you kill yourself. She probably did it out of pity, otherwise any other non-degenerate girl will not waste her time with such a loser like you.

It's usually the other way around. Schwag is weaker and often contains CBD, so it's far less likely to cause or trigger acute problems.

this

pastebin.com/ekSR1hwE
and this ebook
sendspace.com/file/wg4jf9

additionally you could also go to examine.com and go through all the benefits that you think that would be good for you. I am on

>spirulina
>garlic
>Curcumin
>Ashwagandha
>cocoa
>zma
>generic large probiotic pill of 20 billion + l reuteri
>kefir
>fish oil
>3 eggs a day
>carbinol 3 from those green veggies to about 100 grams a day
>carrots

ergo-log.com/every-10-g-carrot-reduces-chance-of-prostate-cancer-by-5-percent.html

Not sure if I remember anything else

I'm serious, she spagettied pretty hard yesterday moreso than I did. Beside my shitty self-depreciating attitude, I have good career prospects, and a great job already lined up, life is in check. So how do i break her and turn her into a stacy?

Whenever I do weed my heart rate skyrockets. I got my friend to place his hand on my chest and he was shocked at the speed of the beats. So fucking annoying, everyone else is able to have fun and I'm just constantly miserable. Whenever I drink I get depressed while other people have fun and meet new people. My hangovers are also terrible because I always get PVCs. All my friends can 'chill' with weed whereas I just feel like I'm having a fucking heart attack. Only thing that works is molly.

And I'm serious too. I don't wish it to people often but I really hope it happens. And if she somewhat became a "Stacey" she will leave you for someone better that is not insecure.

+ like the other dude above

>3 times a week weight lifting (left arm got injured though)
>2 times a week HIIT or generic running with a group
>1 hour every day (if time allows thanks to work) of walking, preferably exposing some skin to the sun
>as few xenoestrogens as possible
>clean diet, no industrial sugars, no GMO's, no meme diet otherwise beyond this

Kidding about the corruption, but will be red pilling her about the manlets, I do like her and she has high compatibility with me. She is coming over my place next week, and she wants to hang out between class, what am i suppose to do?

Do you have any recs for motivational music or videos? My favorite genre is midwest emo and those bands aren't usually very upbeat so it can be difficult to find motivating music. Jets to Brazil, Algernon Cadwallader, and JANK are the only midwest emo bands I can think of that have a significant amount of happy music in their discography.

I am the same almost but I am not sure if I am a psychopath because I have other things that make me reconsider.

There are like 4 people in my life who I can't do anything to. It is like I am their bitch, I do whatever they say and believe almost everything they tell me.

Also sometimes when I listen to music, whether I am alone or with people I tear up. Not always but it is very often. When I am alone I just break out sobing, but with people I try to hold it in. And it doesn't evem have to be a sad song. It can be a happy one. The only type of music that doesn't give me this is rap and metal.

Other than this I am just like you. I am extrememly mean to people and say stuff to then that pushes the boandries. I want to see how far I can take it. And I am also becoming depersonalized, nothing is real anymore. I just do shit and there is no consequences. This is probably going to sound funny but shit liks this happens alot.

"Hey man my uncle died recently"
Voice in my head "if you don't make fun of him you will become a faggot"
"I am happy for you"

retarded shit like this. Someone please help me. I just want to connect normally. I want to be normal so fucking bad, I am not even kidding, this shit is real. Can someone please help me. It is far worse than I made it sound.

>Im a non meme psychopath.
>Over time I came to realize that I fit all the symptoms

Professional diagnosis or kill yourself

I'm planning to lad. I've been putting it off for ages but now that I'm getting recurring suicidal thoughts , I think it's time.

Not the same user but I went to the gym a few times about 4 years ago (been on Veeky Forums for that long too).
Second or third time an older guy stared at me when I was trying to bench, never been back since.
Only time I feel comfortable to workout is night, so I do some running at around 11pm 3 or 4 times a week (I make sure to duck for cover if I see headlights) and I do bodyweight exercises.
Still manage to be a productive member of society but I can't "perform" in front of others.

It'll be fine once you become 16

Fuck you man, I try to open up and you give me this meme response.

I realized I'm addicted to video games. Looking back at the past three years, I've gone from someone who went to the gym regularly, was financially sound, and logical, to someone who plays video games at the office, sleeps in the office because my house is a disaster, and has nearly ruined himself financially by paying into free2play games. I've lost most of my friends because I never had time for them, I've gained 100 pounds, and nearly had a body part amputated due to neglect.

I'm 8 days clean now, taking everything one day at a time, but always looking back to what I was, and the growing time period of distance from that.

Today is going to be my first day back in the gym.

It helps to post this I think.

you're an edgy, special snowflake teenager
that's the only response these kinds of posts deserve

Good luck friend.
I hope you stick to the gym, and eventually give yourself a diet plan

I have many times. In my experience they wont listen and dont take kindly to your suggestions or personal experiences with anxiety. They ask stupid irrelevant questions they read off a list and pretend they arent. They tell you to meditate and refer you to psychology where they dont take kindly to saying no to SSRIs. Over all ive had a bad impersonal experiece for panic disorder. Only thing that ever helped me was xanax but they make you jump through hoops for it and they dnt give a fuck if you are suffering from panic attacks and the impending doom mixed with derealization. They push SSRIs so hard even when I tell them it gives me more panic attacks and anxiety than before. Its bullshit. In my experience anyways. Finally gave up and asked for xanax and doctor looks at me like im crazy and told me HE'D be more comfortable if I do the whole song and dance through psychology again before he thinks about prescribing it, nevermind the 8 years of medical records that back up my need for it. I am angry. This shit happened yesterday. No word from a pschologist yet even though I made it clear my anxiety and depression have reached an intolerable level where its interfering with my daily life. Cant stand this shit anymore. Didnt even give me a temp prescription to get me through the day or week.

No I actually have gone to therapy nigger. I am trying to get help. Idk why I thought you faggots would have insight.

You don't sound like a psychopath. A lot of people have a dark sense of humor and everyone has intrusive thoughts. I think the fact that there are people who you do care about and that you have intense emotional reactions to music is evidence that you're more normal than you might suspect. Maybe work on your self control or something.

I've been theorizing about mental health.

The biggest thing I believe most of the nerds here struggle with is self confidence/esteem. It doesn't matter how big you get, how fit you are if you lack the confidence in life to make your own way.

If you lack confidence, not only will you lack a sex life, but your whole life will be fucked. You'll never go for a masters degree doing something you love even if the money is shit, you'll never quit your job to start your own business, you'll never cut harmful people out of your life and curating your friend group to only include people you share goals with, you'll never be the man ( or woman, if you're tits or gtfo).

We all need to work on our acceptance of ourself without accepting excuses for weakness. We must realize and accept that we are ok and that we're going to make it through without being lazy and lacking ambition. It's a tough line.

Start eating better to make yourself feel better. Start getting more sleep and take care of yourself. Stop watching porn, stop wasting your time with excessive gaming and Netflix.

Work on yourself and keep in mind that you deserve anything you want. Keep your head up guys.

This is going to sound cringy, but I joined a PUA bootcamp and it saved my life

The people there, both students and instructors, were the broest, friendliest guys you can imagine
We could talk about ANYTHING, even deep personal problems, and there was no judging

Then we went out to hit on girls and bonded really well
Amazing weekend, I honestly haven't been depressed at all since

That's because you're probably never had that sort of masculine friendship before. They're men who don't apologize for being men, and nearly every guy who grew up in the feminized west lacks that sense of male bonding.

Imo every dude should create a tribe of guys.

Quitting Veeky Forums is the best method to feeling better. This place brings you down

The best thing I found to work for me wa to listen to other people. I listen to Alan Watts and his version/understanding about Zen Buddhism has been very rewarding and peaceful. (I suggest "out of your mind")

My worries aren't really anything to worry about.

It also helps to talk with a trained person, like a psychologist or a social worker.
Just tell them you feel like something migh be wrong with you psychologically and want some sort of evaluation.

This so much. Veeky Forums is designed to bring you down mentally. Aborting the Internet for a week will help you tremendously too.

The fact that it was a PUA bootcamp is crigney as fuck but the part about being open and broey with other dudes is cool. Friendship is a beautiful thing.

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I'll post a few of mine.

Little background of myself first. I've been pretty alone for anout two years. Feeling like a ghost amongst people. It's really hard to feel connected to anyone anymore. Recently I habe stopped giving a fuck about how people perceive me. First it started as dressing like a hobo and not shaving. Nowadays it's kinda better because I can talk to people easily because I don't give a fuck anymore. Still I have this empty hollow feel inside of me and I put myself down 90% of the time in my mind.

>get busy
Try to do stuff so you keep your mind occupied. Study, learn a language, listen to music, workout, take a walk, paint, pretty much anything that will take your attention away. You'll also feel better for having accomplished something. (I would avoid vidya or binge watching movies though)

>get a goal
This is related to the former point. Keep moving forward and you'll get the feeling of accomplishment. Or at least you made an effort. Goal should be small enough to achieve but a grand scheme of something greater is useful too.

>healthy living
Needless to say, eating clean and restricting the use of alcohol and drugs will benefit you physically and mentally. I'm not saying you should not have a beer every now and then but if you can't control yourself, you better steer clear.

>family
Try to be nice to your family even if they irritate you. You'll feel better for not having cussed at your mom. And they love you. (Sorry for anons who really have a shitty family)

>breathing
I know this sounds like bs but google box breathing. Everytime you start slipping into negative thoughts practise this. I think meditating can also help.

>appriciate the little things
Whatever happens during the day, you'll have warm comfy bed to fall into. Also applies to treating yourself, no harm in having a bit better coffee for example every now and then.

Yeah, pretty simple stuff but those are the things that have helped me.

only if you're a bitch

These are good posts. Helpful.

I've been thinking about just giving myself a buzzcut. The idea is so appealing. Not having to worry about ahir anymore. I'll look like a cancer patient, but that's good. I want to finally resemble my true self on the outside.

Put aside all vanity, start from the beginning.

What do you do to meditate? I did it years ago but have kinda forgotten.

Thanks man, I very rarely type out long posts so it feels good when someone appriciates my words.

It could be pretty enlightening in a way. You may find out that people treat you pretty much the same no matter how you look.

At least it was for me when I grew out that uglyass scraggly beard. I always thought that I had to be perfect and on point. I used to iron my shirts, style my hair and everything even if I was only going to the store on the street to get some oats or stuff. It was kinda liberating to look like hobo and not give a fuck.

You should try it out in my opinion. And you can also grow out a new hairstyle if you like, I think it's good to "evolve" from time to time.

The last two or three years I started questioning the reason I do things, why people act in certain ways, I more or less became more observant both internally and externally.

The more I kept on questioning behavior, politics, biology, whatever I could find, I started to feel an odd sense of self and my life. I've ended up isolating myself for my own pursuits and I really don't like socializing, even if I'm fairly good at it.

I'm happy, but at the same time dealing with the bodily needs of wanting human relationships even though I tend to throw them away once the initial interest is gone.

If I told myself that I would become what I am today 10 years ago, I wouldn't have believed it. Strange how life works.

I don't understand how people are calling you edgy. It sounds like you have a legitimate problem, seek professional help.

Seriously, go talk to some doctor. From what you described you sound like a grade A psychopath despite one thing; you are worried about being one. From what I read real psychos don't really feel like something is wrong in them. You should still see a doc though.

This. It's all pointless anyway, and you're going to keep realizing that. I don't have an alternative really, though

One thought that came to my mind recently.

Shame. I felt so ashamed for being "depressed" (quotas because I'm not diagnosed). I felt great shame for having a tough time getting up in the morning and not jumping in front of a bus.

My problem felt so stupid. All my friends had real problems with school, jobs and their girlfriends while I'm fighting in my mind over my life. Then it occured to me; I have a real problem that you shouldn't be shamed about. It is a real fight that many lose.

You should not be ashamed of your condition. It is literally a purest form of competing against yourself. For many it means life or death. When you think about it it's really some jedi light vs. dark type of shit. I think it lurks in everyones mind but some just get the shit end of the stick and start feeding it for whatever reason.

Don't let it consume you, stay positive and keep fighting for yourself. Go talk to a doc, nothing weak about that. It's kinda fucked up how mental illnesses are viewed as being a pussy.

netflix and chill

>when your fear of being murdered is supplanted by the fear of being in your own Truman Show reality

Seriously guys please fucking help. The torment never ends. If I'm not worried about the Truman Show ordeal or any other fear on my mind, I'm just in a general brain fogged dissociative state.

Dude totally go for it! I thought it kinda helped me to start fresh. Ofc it makes everyday life easier, you dont have to style your hair everytime you go out but for me it was a much bigger change. I knew I didnt look "optimal" and was a bit ugly looking actually but later on found it to be super refreshing and it sort of forces you to not give too many unncessary fucks about other peoples opinions stupid shit like that.

My Little Pony (inb4 Barneyfag)

Not even shitting, it's one of the best antidepressants that exists, Rainbow Dash pretty much convinced me to lift heavy, eat big, and not kill myself.

what the fuck...