On tinder, set to discover both men and women

There is no trick my friend. Improve your "market value". AKA get off Veeky Forums, go lift every day, eat healthy, get big.

Fix personal issues such as ache, if you have jacked up teeth go get crowns, get regular haircutes, shave your nasty ass beard, etc.

Start going out gradually. Start with local bookstore or coffee joint. Just go in there, get coffee and sit and play on your phone or read a book. Just immerse yourself in the environment. Go to the mall and walk around for two hours, better than sitting at home watching move or some shit. Say hi and smile at every chick that looks your way, even if she looks away is disgust just smile and don't put your head down.

Then start going out on weekends to your local joints, go by yourself if you have nobody else. Drink light so you don't lose control.

Also go back to school or some kind of trade. Read more books. Decrease gaming to a minimum. Quit smoking.

It's a gradual change over many months, don't quit.

> don't enjoy paying for over values shit
> You must be poor

You're retarded, fempai. Your ability to entertain a given woman is entirely unrelated to the general population of American liberal arts college educated young 20 something girls' sense that they're entitled to being entertained, and that guys should line up and fight each other for the right to spend their time and money entertaining them.

Saying "I don't want to participate in that game" doesn't make you beta, it just means you have the basic qualifications to being a functioning, not retarded, human being.

The thing tho is that gay people will LITERALLY fuck anything that moves which throws out everything said in this thread.

>2000x3000

yeah, fuck you too mate

Dat ass needs to be seen at an even better resolution mate

It makes you beta. End of story.

Get off Tinder and meet people in reality. Only most vapid whores are on that shit. And yeah, they're whores so they are very entitled.

Also you don't have to "spend" money on them. Normal shit like dinning,going out, movies, etc. is just part of being in a relationship.

Look what you're conditioned i to bel7eving, you self hating pathetic cuk. You precieve men just how you're trained to do by women like an obedient little dog. You're literally stripped of the idea that men are capable of feeling things and do have the ability to care and love without wanting to shag something and then leave

Uhh no. I actually have few gay friends and even went out with them to a gay club/tranny shit.

That's how they all are. Even my friends laugh about it. They will fuck anything.

the competition is in high school and early 20s - where you literally have to deal with bitching, love that lasts for a girl 2-3 weeks (which is always harder for the guys to handle). Later on, women are either single or married - I cant see a competition in this case. If a woman is single in her 30s it's her instinct to find a male that would want a family. I have a colleague and she is 36 years old, and she is literally ready to get pregnant from any of her guy friends - she is a solid 7/10 blonde - an ex fitness bikini competer (and I have touched her butt, its gorgeous). So, yeah user, you have a point, but market values really do switch as years pass

Men are more sexually charged, yes. But you seem to be deluded into thinking we're only capable of one thing at a time. Just because we like fucking doesn't mean fucking is all we have going for ourselves you cunt. You have the mentality of an entitled bitchy woman.

www.lookism.net

It feels like a trick since ive been doing that for some time now and its gotten me nowhere
I know, its whine and i should just keep going but i dont even see a gradual improvement

I go to uni, i got a part time job, i got hobbies and i lift. I talk to people regularly and im able to keep a convo going
Im on a first name basis with people at stores i frequent and at the gym i know most of the staff and some regulars
I just want there to be some improvement, like i want to actually get laid every once in awhile but now its been more than two years and no matter how much i improve my sex life is just dead

None of the tricks given by TRP or RDS/PUA communities seem to work because i do everything i can to improve my market value but i still seem to be worth zero and nothing i do bumps it up

>dat feel when bi

>Why are women of todays society such entitled shallow twats?
>Most men put pussy on pedestal and praise women purely for having a vagina
You just answered your own damn question. Guys will go for anything with a hole.

Then it's your personality bro.

Don't be overly nice. Don't apologize for anything. Maintain eye contact when you talk, keep head high. Move shoulders back and "lean" back when you walk.

Are you still dressing like a "teenager"?? Buy some new clothes(or used) that are fashionable - ask a female friend to go shopping with you.

If you are doing everything you said, you should be pulling some ass. You seem to give off a "vibe" that shows you as a "beta". It is something at the core of your interactions.

Do you mind posting a pic of yourself? Might give more insight.

I gotta stop meeting up with guys on tinder to get free dinner

I did not say gay people are only capable of fucking lol.

I simply said that their "standards" are overly low and will fuck majority of people.

>why does this niche minority give me more attention than 50% of the world's population

u dumb op

if you are a man and want women:
>change your style
>change your looks
>change your personality
>stop doing certain things that you love
>do things you normally wouldn't want to do
If you are a woman and want men
>guurl you're perfect the way you are. Don't change for anyone. A man who lives you exactly the way you are will come along and just be perfect. Don't you dare making changes. You're beautifuljust the way you are

This. We're reduced to giving up every single bit of individuality just so we can fit into the socially conditioned criteria required for men to be precived as attractive

I do have some issues with style, i wear mostly t-shirts and jeans and hoodies on "off" days and when its work i vary with a more grown up style so might be it but i seriously doubt things would go from 0-100 from that alone

Dont get me wrong, socially ive gone light years. I cant say for sure but i feel like people take me more seriously and give me more respect now that im jucier and carry myself better but still...i miss the sex
Ironically when i was an insecure beta faggot who cares about making girls happy at his own expense i got laid more and had successful relationships...

Lol who else here /fuckaround/ on tinder? I treat it like a game

I am 19 years old but every person I meet without fail since I was 15 has told me I look 3-4 years older than I am. I set my age to 23 and got way more matches especially from girls who are 18-20.
It makes it easier to fuck them on the first or second date when they think you're older than them. I'm laughing in my head a lot of the time because I've taken out girls that are 3-4 years older than me and I've made THEM nervous through eye contact and talking about a business that I run (a huge exaggeration, I am an employee at a small landscaping business part time but I claim to be a co-owner of it. I also say that I am in charge the of a crew and in charge of the hiring ).
Above all though, practice makes perfect with tinder. I've had girls just invite me over for wine and food after talking. It's all about how you present yourself and how old you are. Always set your age to at least 22.

>I cant see a competition in this case
Im not sure what you mean here
Many women drop out of the single game (as you said yourself) so the selection pool becomes more shallow
Meanwhile youre competing with the same amount of guys practically and the standards have gone way up since they now expect you to have alot more things than an 18 year old expects of you
Im still waiting for market values to just equalize and so far at 28 market values are firmly in womens favor

>when i was an insecure beta faggot who cares about making girls happy at his own expense i got laid more and had successful relationships...
Exactly. Women see sex as them giving you a reward. Even though they'll just laythare like a dead fish and you're expected to perform optimally to make them cum. Only when you're refused to their obedient slave, will they give it up to you.

>>guurl you're perfect the way you are. Don't change for anyone. A man who lives you exactly the way you are will come along and just be perfect. Don't you dare making changes. You're beautifuljust the way you are

it's dudes fault for being so thirsty and accepting women's mediocrity

Yeah and its snowballing day by day. Our male grandchildren are majorly fucked

>28 yo

2 ways to proceed - either find yourself a girl 3-4 years younger than you, or either wait another 4-5 years until a woman knocks on your door

nah, option 3, do what i want, get ripped, get successful as fuck, dedicate every fiber of my being to what i want to do and my goals in life; and don't base my value on my success with women. im sure some random chad got tons more pussy than Churchill or Teddy, but i'd still rather be one of them than the random chad.

i'm not the guy you're responding to tho.

or you could down to a bar tonight
buy some drinks
and fuck some loser 20 something

Im...not sure you understood because it was the opposite
I had a gf and i cared for her, i was totally beta. When she wanted to i went out to her in the middle of the school week, i skipped classes to be wit her, blew off friends to be with her and just was totally submissive and the relationship was strong, sexlife was good and things were happy

Now im much more independent and im not experiencing the things people say would happen, such as girls see me as more attractive and well see what i said earlier

Coincidence? might be but its more annoying since i feel alot better mentally today than i did back then but i miss the sex so much and im not even sure i can "trade back" at this point because im fairly sure i just got lucky

nah, saturday is track day. i wake up row 5k, and ride my motorcycle to the track, burn the fuck out. much better investment of my time than going to a bar trying and shooting my self esteem in the face trying to pick up someone who's probably not even going to respond to me.
I'll lift and do another 5k row in the evening. tomorrow i'll take my rower to the river 5 mins from my apartment and probably row for 1-2 hours.
if the opportunity comes up, sure i'd love to get laid but im not going out of my way to chase tail. did that plenty in my early 20's with very minimal success.

>live in small town
>all girls in bars are with friends and are planning to meet up with guys they already know
>nobody actually goes out alone to meet new people, only to hang out with peoplw they already know
Im fucked without connections, user

this is true and it makes me fuckin mad

>all these excuses
go to a bar and hang out for an hour
YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE
drive outside your town then
you gotta take chances brah

Yes, it is our fault and we should feel bad. If you still haven't scored when you are 20 you should give up and become a hermit.

I'm almost 20 and I've got multiple girls interested in me but I have no motivation to act on any of them.

Doing your schedule is probably better than going to a bar, DESU; a guy shouldn't bend-over-backwards just to attempt to slay pussy for one night.

But don't do your schedule alone; look for clubs and shit and make connections. Maybe find a biker club or a rowing (idk if these exist) club or something

I'm genuinely thankful every single day I was born gay. I see my mother and sister once a year and the damn hags manage to bring me to the end of my nerves every singe time. I would literally kill myself if I had to put up with that shit everytime I wanted some action. My legit condolences to all the straightcucks who have to put up with women, and thank you for keeping the damn witches off our backs.

>Chad is fucking all the women and I don't get any

>therefore it is the women's fault

Why don't you guys try lashing out at Chad

maybe i gave the wrong impression dude, im not bitter about anything. i just like to take things as they come. i'm 29 now, when i was a bit younger i'd try to get laid and i realized that sometimes i got lucky but mostly i didn't. that is just life.

the closer i got to 30, i realized that time moves a lot faster than i thought and i would rather spend my time doing things i wanted to do than doing things i didn't want to do. and actively spending time trying to get laid being one of the things i didn't want to do.

you have people in this thread complaining about how guys have to change so much just to get laid or be chads. well, i dont know if that is true or not but i refuse to compromise. i know that i am a valuable member of society whether i get laid or not. i do great research work with good publications, as i age more my work will get better because i work hard as fuck. and outside of that i do things like amateur motorcycle racing and sculling. i spend my time rebuilding old cars and bikes with my friends or my dad. i have good amount of investments and enough money already saved up to ensure my family's retirement and am working towards saving for my own while i do things that i enjoy.

i just dont really get any pleasure by going to a bar or any other place with the only motivation of trying to get laid. if i meet someone interesting doing the things that i love, i'll pursue it otherwise fuck all that noise.

I'm with you my man

Let's work on ourselves and we'll make it

>Become rich
>become Veeky Forums
>become Veeky Forums
>become /soc/
>sacrifice all hobbies unless they're status symbols
>go out of your way to do what you usually do but in a public place
>Spend money to go out and buy women shit at a bar that they pretend only be there to dance.
>get an advanced education
>MONTHS of work.

This is actually 100% accurate, but that doesn't change how hilariously bullshit it is. If you were to google search "how to get him to notice me" or some other female equivalent I almost guarantee it would be as simple as follow places that he goes and have basic hygiene.

Literally ez mode.

Came close to hooking up with a qt masters degree graduate in physchology because I lied about being an independent ap developer for a start up company.

rofl women drink up any BS you feed about having authority.

>literally become a whole different person just to get pussy
Do you have no self respect?

so you dated a guy and had sex with him just for the hell of it, ok champ.

A succ's a succ

>anecdotal evidence
Another post for the retarded Veeky Forums collection.

Im open to dating anyone to be honest. But im very picky with guys to sleep with. Hes the only one who gave me the succ since some guys wont do it. That guy was extra special for some readon. Cant believe hes gone though :(

No homo though.

So why didn't you hookup

If you haven't found a girl by the time you've left high school, then you're never gonna make it

this happened to me yesterday

>been using tinder
>like a fucking graveyard because my pictures suck, Im bulking, and I havent taken care of my hair until it is long enough to get permanent iron
>not expecting too much
>begin swiping
>match
>more swiping
>another match
>mfw

Zyzz taught you better than this Veeky Forums. Get shredded, acquire dance moves and disregard woman.

>keep swiping
>get 3-4 matches
>MFW

yeah he taught me to not be dead at 22

roids, party drugs and a bad heart will do that to you, yeah. If you're going disregard his achievements for his flaws, then by all means do shit and best of luck with that shitty approach to life. Sounds like fun mate.

girlsaskguys.com/sexual-behavior/a22977-girls-on-tinder-do-smash-a-lot

>It's something we can't deny that it has a big impact on many people's sex lives. We asked questions to 300 guys and 300 girls who use tinder about their sexual experiences. They were easy to find since it seems to be extremely popular with people from ages 18 to 35! Here are some results that surprised me.

>- Unlike I thought, 240 of the 300 girls actually had sex through tinder! Only less than 50 of the 300 men, which is remarkable.

>- When we asked for numbers to the people that did have sex: Girls did it on average less than the few guys that did. That means that a couple guys score with almost al the women.

Nor complaining about chad. Just complaining that men are required to give up all individuality and personality just to be abothet fake copy of chad to not be considered worthless by women. You're so used to this that you think its how it should be, user. But its all social conduct

I find this hard to believe man. I'm short, not particularly good looking, DYEL, and my game is leagues less than the RSD guys. And I still get laid pretty regularly.

I say double down on upping your SMV man. How's your uni? Is the ratio good? Do people party?

>claims to be genetically superior and shit
>dies from a genetic weak heart

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Honestly /r/malefashionadvice is MILES ahead of Veeky Forums. I've been rocking the basic wardrobe for a couple of years and frequently get told that I dress well.

>live in Norway
>age of consent is 16
>fucked 4 different 16 year old boiipussies who l legally met on a gay site this year
Best fucks I've had. They're better than any crusty old whore out there

Reading retention friendo. Again, it was the roids, party drugs and the weak heart. We know he did the first two and the family alleged that he had an diagnosed heart condition that caused his death whilst they refused to release the toxocoligy. Maybe he had a heart condition, but it may very well just be bullshit they spewed to misdirect us. Speaking of misdirection, none of this was the point of my post you retard and you know it.

This is a shitty statistic. We don't know how representative these 600 people (lol) are and if I had to venture a guess, they're probably all clustered in the same section of the same state. but what would you expect when you cite girlsaskguys.com?

You don't have to give up individuality, you just have to display reproductive value. That's just the nature of the beast.

If you're confident, jacked, successful, and well dressed that doesn't make you someone else, it makes you a better version of yourself.

I don't think it can go on for long. There's gonna be a market crash eventually.

T. Muhammad

Uni is decent, i love the classes and the staff is great. Think it will be helpful when i get back into the real world
Ratio between guys:girls is like 2:1 but for single girls its more like 20:1
I have no idea, i dont socialize with people at uni at all. Im looking for random hookups or a stable gf and uni is a terrible hunting place for this

Hey, fit gril here. The reason I, and the other ladies I talk with, don't message first is because many guys swipe right on every girl. We have no way of telling if a swipe means you actually are interested in us, or were just getting into a swiping frenzy and planning on sorting it out when the matches roll in. The only way for us to know if you're interested in us specifically is if you talk.

Even if we're judicious with our swipes, we still match with most of the people we swipe right on, which leads to a lot of matches. And most of those are false positives from guys who never message. If we send the first message to a guy who wasn't all that interested in us, he's either going to disregard it or message back looking purely for a single hookup. Which is fine if you're down for that, but most of us want to meet with someone (even just for a hookup) who's actually interested in us.

So that's why chicks don't message first.

As to why you're getting the sense you're being played with, we get a lot of messages. We drop off the face of the earth because while you've been talking with us for one or two messages, the guy who matched with us the night before has just asked us out to coffee. It's got more to do with timing than most people want to admit.

Good luck with banging bros dude. Hope you find someone who makes ya happy.

yeah thats why most grills (tits or gtfo) have that bullshit about "follow me in instagraaaaAAAAMMMM"-bullshit

So be a full blown homo? I don't understand why you're complaining.

Hvilken side?

>2016
>women are entitled cunts because they get showered with cock offers by the minute
>men have to work hard and either be rich, handsome, have connections or status to have a chance to get laid
>women have it easy
>men have it hard

WEW LAD WHO COULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT

Audible kek

>posts an ugly manly looking dyke with a shitty tattoo

this isn't going to convince him

How the fuck do i get good pics? Should i just get my friends to take pics of me when we're out? Isn't that really gay?

It's halal dicipline, brother
Gaysir. Husk kondom :^)

No but being so insecure about your sexuality that you think getting tsken pictures of is gay sure is

only if you are insecure. Me and my friends are pretty open and I'll gladly take pics of them for their tinder profile and vice versa.

Just tell them you need new tinder pics. They'll understand.

Eh, getting dick is easy. Getting quality dick is a difficult fucking chore.

Sure, you could walk to a bar and declare low standards and get fifty offers, but if you actually want to cum? Wew lad no. Say you sort through the offers of dick to find one that's on a guy who's attractive to you. Now do you just jump in bed? Or will that cause him to label you an easy sloot and never text back after one hookup? Then you have to sort through the offers of dick again, fuck.

But lets say you jump in to bed with your very own Chad as discussed above. Doesn't matter what time line, first hookup, after third date, irrelevant. There's a huge percentage that you won't cum unless he's actively trying hard and listening. How many times has a girl hooked up with a 10/10 to find out he doesn't give a fuck while fucking? Too damn much. So back to sorting the offers again, because life's too short.

It's fucking exhausting man. Imagine if you could have sex every night if you wanted, but 80% of the time you just got blue balled. How eager would you be to jump on everything in sight? It fucking sucks.

I would take your words more seriously if you proved you are an actual woman

>many guys swipe right on every girl
Why is this? I don't use Tinder but I was with a friend who does and he swiped right on every girl. I don't get it, most were fucking ugly.

Or become chad

>There comes a time - say, your 30s or 40s, where women your age are praising cock and cant go to sleep without it.

good luck having a relationship with a woman around this age who isn't whining about getting kids and how her bio clock is ticking etc.

I can describe what having mucous come out of your vagina during the pre-period phase if you want.

Or I can tell you other secret women things.
The average price of VS bra is like $60.
Our conditioner is expensive, stop freaking using it in the shower.
One time I bought blue razors because they were a dollar cheaper than the pink ones right next to them. They were the same razor.

just stop caring about women or sex, life becomes less complicated

nah thx I prefer tits or gtfo

Faggot here. Eh, sex is easier no doubt. Trade off is, relationships are almost non-existent. The guys that do want relationships are usually numale-esque.

I feel like for heteros finding relationships is just as bad, or nearly as bad, today though. So meh.

/bi/ master race. I still like me some titties from time to time but guys are so much simpler