>the Greeks could rule the world... Alexander did.
The Greeks could rule the world... Alexander did
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There can be no peace, no peace with Romans, men of stone, and iron, and lies! There can be only war!
>he took a greek army into the far indus...
>Alexander
>Greek
>"for the freedom and glory....of GREECE!!!! zeus be with us"
pseudonians BTFO
Before he conquered the world, the Greeks said that he was Macedonian. After he conquered the world, the Greeks said that he was Greek.
Gayreeks can't have it both ways.
who is this (semen - etc, etc)
Look up the source in that, it's both pathetically biased and not even contemporary. Alexander was Macedonian, distinct from Greeks as the Irish are from the English.
It was debatable whether the common Macedonian could be considered a Hellene, although presumably the answer was no. Alexander. However, was from a family that had actually been determined to be Hellenic centuries earlier; the source for that is Herodotus.
So, Alexander the Great was a Hellene/Greek. Albeit mixed race with Molossian savages.
I just finished taking over Egypt and Anatolia with the Seleucids, the Brutii have the entire Balkans, i feel like Hannibal and Pyrrhus, no matter how many times i btfo them they keep coming with larger and larger armies.
>However, was from a family that had actually been determined to be Hellenic centuries earlier; the source for that is Herodotus.
Yeah determined, Alexander supplies the Greeks with timber and ships for their fight against the Persians, they still won't let him participate, he makes up a bullshit story about being descendant from Argos, yeah thats fine well buy that totally not made up story.
>the greeks and Macedonians embittered by their old RACIAL HATRED
Gotta love Arrian
My play through of the seleucids feel more like some sort of classical WW1 with my Empire stopping at the Roman Balkans, lower Italy, and Egypt,there's too many of them
Macedonians back then
>WE
>WUZ
>HELLENES
Greeks back then
>oh god
Macedonians today
>WE
>WUZ
>ALEXANDER
Greeks today
>oh god
Some things never change
Hey there Yugoslavia!
>My play through of the seleucids feel more like some sort of classical WW1
Thats pretty much my start against E*ypt, inch by bloody inch, im currently only holding Byzantium in the Balkans, but i have every single one of his Aegean ports blocked, and Seleucia in the east rebelled against me, which is shit since its the only town in the east that i have that can produce silver shields and cataphracts. I have to admit the whole generic Corinthian look and retarded look of the Phalanx really bum me out, the Thracian helmet with face mask is aesthetic as fuck
>which is shit since its the only town in the east that i have that can produce silver shields and cataphracts.
You're more concerned about that than the wonder it holds?
dunno sorry lad
Actually yes, most of the regions around can at most produce Greek cavalry and Levy Pikemen, not at all good since the Armenians have grown strong and have Cataphracts, as do the Parthians. The most important wonder imo, the Colosus of Rhodes i hold so im fine. I hold practically all the wonders apart from the temple of Zeus, and Babylon, but i will reconquer it in two turns so no biggy.
If the only thing that will satisfy you is a literal, modern say DNA test, then good luck. What we have his primary source material showing that Alexander's family claimed to be Hellenes, and this was debated and accepted by authorities at the Olympics. So, he was thought of as a Hellene both by birth, and in the sense that Isocrates argued that anyone could become a Hellene.
Also, lmao at modern day "macedonians". Literal Paionians, clown tier savages who got steamrolled by the Macedonian royal family who, again, were hellenic.
top right facial expression accurately portrays my attitude to life
>play massalia
>muck about in cisgaul for so long that Rome, Carthage and the Arveni secure the Aegean, Hispania and Gaul respectively
>attrmpt to war against the celts
>set up ambushes
>AI turn:
>one of their armies walks into ambush #1
>another of their armies attacks the victorious ambushers #1
>a third one slaughters the barely victorious remants of #1
>a fourth army walks into ambush #2
kill me familia
FYROMlets btfo
so you be sayin that
>non-greeks also worshipped greek gods?
>non-greeks spoke greek?
>non-greeks also used one of the types of greek script as their main script?
>non-greeks spread hellenic civilization?
>non-greeks participated in ancient olympic games?
WE
IDK now are you describing the Romans or Macedonians?
>who else
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>WOW
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Why is it so hard to believe modern day FYROM is the same stock as Alexander The Great?
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So the people who live in Macedonia currently have replaced the breed of Macedonian during Alexander's time?
>holy kek
can you imagine having all sorts of artifacts in your museum with greek written all over it and you can't even understand it unless you were a professor
>and must be hell lot embarassing when a tourist asks about that shit
Modern day Native Americans speak English. That doesn't mean they didn't use to speak Cherokee and shit.
WE
yup at least in the southern parts of modern-day FYROM other than that it's just pure LARPing festing spergs
those slavs migrated between 6th and 8th century AD
>the fuck is that kind of analogy?
kek
the difference is that the native americans are still beholden to their culture whereas the slavs of FYROM are brainwashed by a wewuzzing communist propaganda of that autist tito
>bunch of Slavshits that don't even really live in ancient Macedon territories
Embarrassing
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They're literally southern Slavs you inbred fuck
maybe not entirely, but they don't speak greek anymore and more of the region of ancient macedonian lies within the borders of greece than it does within the borders of fyrom.
Who drew that border, probably a Greek? kek
that's an oddly compact way to say "Greeks with hats that look like shields"
Real Slavs have blue or grey eyes and fair skin, anything south of Hungary is not Slavic and genetics prove that. Just because some Balkan gypsy who is more than likely of being your goat fucking racial cousin speaks a language similar to mine it doesn't mean he's my kin. Kill yourself.
would a modern greek person be able to read ancient greek?
I doubt it
yes a bunch of greeks who migrated from the south
takabara looks too compact to be shield hat to you?
>would a modern iranian be able to read ancient persian?
>yes
yes many greeks can read many types of ancient greek scripts and it's not even an achievement
Extremely embarrassing virgin post
I thought I had heard Greeks could not understand the Greek being spoken on the new season of Vikings, which I'm guessing is around 800AD because of Kassia.
t. Shitskinis Yabadapopapepapoulos
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they meant they couldn't understand the accent but they understood well what was being sad
plus it's medieval/byzantine greek not ancient ones.. duh
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The only evidence required is that Macedonians were allowed to compete in the Olympic games.
>Veeky Forums calls this a snow nigger
Demonsthenes called Macedonians non greek subhumans and these anime imageboard posters think they know better than Demosthenes (pbuh)
top kek
>Redhead
>Snow nigger
Try again, manlet
Here are some very reliable sources with professors from Oxford, Yale and Pennsylvania universities teaching the truth about ancient Macedonians and them being a Hellenic tribe.
The Macedonians were Greeks by Donald Kagan.
youtube.com
Professor Robin Lane Fox from Oxford university says: Macedonia is Greek! youtube.com
Elementary season 1 - "Sherlock" Sums Up The Dispute Over The Name Macedonia
youtube.com
Professor Jeremy McInerney: Ancient Macedonians Were Of Greek Stock youtube.com
Archaeologist Dorothy King about the one and only Greek Macedonia. youtube.com
en.wikipedia.org
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>Donald Kagan.
Hold it right there, Him teaching at Harvard (nevermind the fact he got his phd from Ohio State) doesn't increase or decrease his credibility.
More importantly his area is not macedonia at all, he is focused on Athens and mostly on Peloponessian War not Macedonia.
>harvard,
meh yale*
>saying that Balkans people are South Slavs makes you a Gayreek
Stay retarded, Pavel
>the "boss man" said it himself
wow, they lost a little chunk of hypothetical clay trough 1400 years of history, such injustice
who is they?
jew
what he fuck is osama doing in the back there
can someone turn this into a reaction image
>shit out armoured hoplitayys and CRETAN ARCHERS
>stand in defensive geometry formation and wait for the enemy to either get shot to pieces or run head first into my pikes
Alexander conquered the world, he never ruled anything
they're Slavic by linguistics only, genetically they're still the same dinaric natives
Basic geography? Even a cursory understanding of differences between Hellenes and neighbouring barbarians like the Paionians?
Let's be honest, if the inhabitants of the area known as The FYROM had progressed beyond loincloths and mud huts, we would instead be bombarded with "WE WUZ PAIONIAN KANGZ"
Literally every ancient source on the Macedonians was written by the Greeks, most of the time after Alexander conquered them and they started ass kissing, Demosthenes was of the opinion that the Macedonians could never be Greek, Arrian too makes a clear distinction between Greeks and Macedonians, citing an "old RACIAL hatred" and the Macedonian troops generally mistrusted the Greeks, as they did with Eumenes. The Macedonians themselves wrote little to nothing about themselves.
Yeah if you play on medium, hoplites are the easiest to btfo, JUST FLANK EM
>wastes your arrows on light cav
What now whiteboi
Playing with any Hellenic faction that best unit you have, especially early on is militia cavalry
So are the 300 a modern invention or was only that many allowed back then
an excellent repository for dispensing superior black seed into thus inseminating and creating the next evolution in humanity
what mod?
You mean oh gods
Snownigger is germanics retard, Celts are different (and superior, stfu with your retarded "Aryan pride" exterminate G*rms when?)
Also, different user
Is there anything worse than we wuzz autism? Bruh those people are long dead who gives a shit except for LARPers and faggots.
if you are being honest Alexander didn‘t really conquer the world, but more accurately usurp the Persian Empire which had previously conquered almost the entire world.
As opposed to rome which was really treading uncharted territory in terms of conquest.
And snowniggers can have red hair you mongoloid
there was NAWTHING left to conquer....
Aww slavs larping as greeks, they can get along after all
DeI Hardcore submod. It's pretty great.
They're not Slavs, THEY ARE GYPSIES!
how is Arrianos and demosthenes more important sources than herodotus.he may not be Thoukidides but he is the father of History.do him some credit man.much better historian than arrianos anyway
If we are being honest Persia didn't really conquer the world, but more accurately usurp the Neo-Babsy Empire which had previoulsy conquered almost the entire world.
As opposed to the Mongolia which was really treading unvharted territory in terms of conquest.
Thinking about revisiting Rome. Back in the day I played stacks of Extended Greek Mod, thinking about going for EB this time.
Engine limitations
>The world was his...
What game?