>if you lift and eat at a surplus you become fat and you become irrelevant to everyone >if you lift and eat at a maintenance you achieve essentially nothing >if you lift and eat at a deficit you may lost weight but you will still look Auschwitz mode because you didn't build any muscle in the meanwhile
Don't ever cut as a skinny fat, that's the worst thing to do. Either bulk up and then cut or eat at maintenance yes you'll get results if you eat and maintenance.
You can make gains on a deficit. m.youtube.com/watch?v=ud7CnPJcK6U Pic is 6 months of gains 100% on a deficit Always cut to 10%, then bulk to 15%
NO EXCEPTIONS.
Connor Lee
But that person in pic looks rubbish.
Either way OP should definitely bulk up a bit now. It will make cutting easier with some muscle mass - both physically with the increased BMR and mentally as you've got something worth uncovering, it feels good.
Jordan Miller
Bullshit. This applies only if your diet consists of chips and coke
Matthew Miller
T H I S.
9-14% bf is ideal for testosterone levels btw. So that will also aide you significantly.
And really, anything under 15% with some muscle looks good to normies. And over 15% you look flabby even with more muscle. It isn't worth it
Joseph Hill
They probably look better than you do :-)
Chase Miller
If you can't see your abs at all, do not bulk.
It's idiotic
Easton White
Watch the second video I linked, then post you after 6 months of liftan
Elijah Nelson
what were your stats when you first started lifting?
Aiden Rogers
What filter are you using dude?
Kayden Morgan
First time liftin Ohp - 95x5 Bench - 125x5 Deadlift - 230x1 Hip thrust - 215x5
Before i got my hernia (right at the 6month mark) Ohp - 135x5 Bench - 210x7/225x3 Hip thrust - 315x10 Deadlift 300x8 (lower body is not a concern as i had crazy lower body mass from doing lots of martial arts and conditioning when i was literally obese. Didnt lose much muscle mass as i lost weight, even before i ever started lifting)
Julian Richardson
Shitty quality camera. No filters I look better irl as you can see more ab definition and lots of muscle striations (especially in my pecs and delts)
Adrian Cook
Sorry, i meant what was your beginning weight and height. V nice progress tho
Jack Rivera
started as skinnyfat 6 months ago 6ft 155lbs, maybe im 160 now tops? and lift 2-3x more depending on which lift. just get ur protons you'll figure it out along the way
Wyatt Ramirez
5'9 Was around 195 when i started lifting
Cut down to 163.
Was 260 lb at my fattest, but that was long before I touched a barbell
Jaxson Gomez
whi did you get your hernia (gym related?)
Juan Stewart
>if you lift and eat at a surplus you become fat and you become irrelevant to everyone
right up until your excess muscles burn the fat away and reveal a greek god.
Caleb Perry
Setting up for a hip thrust.
300lb on the bar. Rather than centering myself under the bar, i tried to pick the bar up and center it over my body.
Dumbass mistake.
I still lift, just have to be careful to keep my abs braced as fuck, and no more overhead work.
I will get laproscopic surgery one of these days
Christopher Reyes
I read something about skinny fat being insulin resistant, and basically if you bulk you will make no gains because your body is in a state where it won't build muscle.
The best way to make gains is to eat a good diet, and only eat carbs from veg and lots of proteins and fat. It takes like 6 months but then you have a base to start building muscle.
Jack Howard
You look DYEL as fuck with clothes on.
Jaxon Powell
Insulin resistant? Leptin resistant?
Literally lift or do any anaerobic activity. BOOM insulin sensitivity increased drastically.
It really is that easy
Angel Mitchell
Every natty does, even eric helms and he is natty limit. If you wanna look big, either take roids or get fat.
That being said i fill out an XL (american) shirt at 170lb 15% bf.
If i wear a M or a S i look tryhard but muscular
Jack Martinez
So if you're skinnyfat you should just cut at 1600 cals and bulk up when you hit lower bodyfat percentage?
Camden Long
>I look better irl as you can see more ab definition and lots of muscle striations (especially in my pecs and delts) AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHahah hahhahahahhahahah
ahhahah, oh man user, I was 100% with you until you went on about the "striations". don't even have huge pecs, you definitely don't have visible striation.
Dominic Peterson
When I was skinnyfat I just ate normally and did random shit in the gym and escaped. Dont go full on autistic mode bulk/cut/maintanance memes. Just go and lift and i guarantee you results will come over time.
Carter Richardson
What do you mean by 'eating normally' and 'escaped'?
Logan Bennett
>m-mom look! I can see my abs!
Cameron Carter
I was just using my head. High protein and stuff. That said I was 16 years old so I was still developing but i surpassed 99% of my peers just by doing that.
Carter Ross
How long did it take you? Tired of being sknnyfat
Adam Miller
thanks man, I'm kinda new and I am really scared of getting hurt, even though I'm not using weights nearly as heavy as that
Liam Mitchell
Just follow this three step plan to success 1. Don't be fucking retarded (this was my critical misstep) 2.keep your abs braced 3. Use proper form
Elijah Myers
1. It doesnt matter. It takes as long as it takes. 2. Its a gradual process. I didnt even know I was making results which made me really angry. I thought i just have to lift harder to get results so id just keep lifting harder each time. Then one day i decided to wear a non baggy shirt to school and everyone was mirin out of nowhere. One day 2 guys from school that are known for being fit invited me to the bathroom and we took off our shirts(no homo) and i looked way better than both of them. Its crazy. You will feel like you are stuck but really you are making gains.
Henry Walker
You dont need mass to have visible striations.
That is mostly bf% Like i say the camera is god awful
Josiah Torres
>if you lift and eat at a deficit you may lost weight but you will still look Auschwitz mode because you didn't build any muscle in the meanwhile
This is completely wrong, watch the documentory "i want to look like that guy" it blows all of that shit out of the water
Brandon Hill
Nice chin calvin
Christian Young
At what point do you get past that skinny fat stage?
Even now when i am like 18% bf i have that skinny fat waist line, i carry a lot of fat on my lower back.
I have an outline of my abs under the fat, and my shoulders are wider than my waist, but i still have that sort of pair shaped look/
I am 5ft11, at 96kg my lifts are 117kg bench, 85kg OHP, 250kg DL, 180kg Squat.
Surely i have enough mass and strength by now, but i still have a flabby appearance. Should i just keep cutting.
Justin Wilson
Skinny fat here. 19 y/o.
Former megafatty from Georgia Murica. What BF% am I, Veeky Forums? Be brutally honest
Eli Russell
I don't get the reference.
Jayden Nelson
Obviously keep cutting
Jack Smith
that's because you're doing it wrong
Joseph Carter
I'd recomend cutting until 12%> bodyfat. Having low bodyfat is better to build muscle mass, plus, you're at 96kg at 5ft 11, if you manage to cut around 10kg of fat, you'd look pretty ripped and would still be big
Nathaniel Reed
>5ft 11" >96KG
Without seeing a pic of you i'de say you're about 25% body fat or higher even with those lifts at that height.
Cut down to 80kg and i bet you'll look great
Noah Ramirez
Thanks, i will continue to cut and hopefully it works out well.
Blake Lopez
you are right. don't bother. remain as you are. bye.
Henry Edwards
What if you're an ACTUAL skinnyfat and not these fat fucks who call themselves skinnyfat despite having at least 10-25kg more to lose? For example, 180cm weighing 62kg but still being able to pinch the fat off your belly and moobs. Isn't bulking the only answer in this case because you weigh so little ?
Michael Cruz
Leafyishere and you both have a weak chin
Dylan Jenkins
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Evan Rodriguez
Yea
Rough rule of thumb is 80 cut to 75 and eat at maintenance
You should still hit 1/2/3/3 on SS after a bit and you wont end up too far gone down any one path. Bulk and cut cycles as a newbie arent necessary and are likely to leave you stranded at a high bf or low muscle mass %
Nolan Brooks
Easily one of the most dissatisfying bodies I've ever seen on Veeky Forums
Jayden Wright
I'm skinnyfat(look good with clothes but fat without). I weigh 178 lbs (down from 183) at 5'10.
U just had to read the sticky >Be on a caloric deficit >Do a strength routine like starting strength, stronglifts, reg parks beginner whatever >Cardio on off days maybe once or twice a week
>B-b-but I can't get muscle on a cut U are not a professional bodybuilder at 6% bodyfat. He can't gain muscle on a cut but skinnyfat people like u and me can JUST READ THE FUCKING STICKY
Caleb Myers
>>if you lift and eat at a surplus you become fat and you become irrelevant to everyone correct >>if you lift and eat at a maintenance you achieve essentially nothing wrong, you slowly exchange fat for muscle >>if you lift and eat at a deficit you may lost weight but you will still look Auschwitz mode because you didn't build any muscle in the meanwhile wrong, more like you get shredded real fast
all of this you would know if you would actually lift
Easton Butler
24 y. old / 5.7 ft /132 P Should I cut or Bulk?
James Ortiz
thank mr skeltal
James Cooper
Nice broscience
Andrew Moore
It depends on the persons weight. If someone is 60kg skinnyfat i'm not gonna tell him to cut because that person will gain fat anyway later on when bulking. It's a loss of time not going directly on a bulk, gain the maximum mascle mass possible and then cut
>if you lift and eat at a surplus you become fat and you become irrelevant to everyone >caring what other people think
Easton Reed
>tfw also 5'11 but 78kg >tfe body fat mostly on ass,.hips and thighs
Doesnt help that im injured and cant lift
Evan Watson
>skinnyfat >skinny
ayy lmao
Jace Williams
>>if you lift and eat at a maintenance you achieve essentially nothing
what?
Brayden Edwards
>when your dog gets so ripped he grows hands
Hunter Cox
>You look DYEL as fuck with clothes on.
You don't look any less dyel at 20%+ bf
Blake Myers
>tfw you're 6'5" and 171 lbs >tfw you have saggy skin and love handles A-at least I have a big nice ass even if the love handles ruin it.