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Would winged hussars be what knights would have turned into if Western Europe remained feudal and decentralized into the 18th century, or are they too Oriental in influence? I'm trying to homebrew a Baroque-themed setting taking place in not!Bretonnia (chivalry, serdom, we wuz Kang Arthur etc) but without the retarded technophobia, so I want to "modernize" medieval knights to resemble winged hussars.
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If you're looking for visual reference, I'd recommend looking up Swedish half-plate armor, seems to sound like what you're looking for.
Not exactly sure what you mean with technophobia element, doesn't make sense for literal warriors to refuse military technology (altho there's several example of it.) less I'm misunderstanding what ur trying to say?
Actual knights developed into armored cuirassiers who used both pistols and swords. These retained their value right into the days of napoleon and possibly beyond. Why they abandoned lances totally between (roughly) 1600 and 1800 while the poles did some fancy shit with their hollow super long lances is a good question. One of the theories is that it was related to the army structure and the need to draw maximum utility out of the noble cavalry. So you could easily imagine a kind of army composed all of western demi-lancers, relying on longer lances in the charge (and perhaps less well trained infantry on the opposing side too).
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The wings are obviously decorative and wouldn't be used by westerners. The sabre seems to be a more eastern weapon (or generally one for lighter armored enemies). Western cavalry would mostly use straight swords. The koncerz is fine though probably not vital to the concept. The armor would be of a western pattern, obviously, but it doesn't really make much difference.
>Not exactly sure what you mean with technophobia element, doesn't make sense for literal warriors to refuse military technology (altho there's several example of it.) less I'm misunderstanding what ur trying to say?
In Warhammer Fantasy, Bretonnian nobility worship a goddess that grants ward saves to worthy knights but not to peasants or those who fight "dishonorably" (i.e. using ranged weapons in general but especially firearms). That's why Bretonnia overall resembles 13-14th France even though it's right next to 16th century notGermany that can field steam tanks and repeating firearms. The blessings of the Lady is also the reason why the former can stand toe-to-toe with steampunk krauts and extradimensional horrors. In my homebrew setting, the kingdom retains the political/social structure of high medieval France (very similar to the later Polish Commonwealth), but with flintlock and cannons in keeping with the 18th century feel.
Early 18TH century Winged Hussars fall into decline and were reformed into National Cavalry.
You mean 17th century.
Also maybe but minus wings as they are later ceremonial addition and not used in battle(also part of saddle not a armor).
Winged Hussars are what happens when a culture with Knights hang around Turkshits and Steppenigs too much.
Hence the the sabers, chichak helmet, Leopard print faggotry, Sipahi/Delhi Aesthetics,. Its a Steppenigger meme. Even China had it.
In fact: Eastern European medieval military equipment is TURKED/Steppenig'd/Easterned one way or another.
Even the Byzantines aren't exempt to this: they adopted the Cataphract after all from the Sassanids, and had Horse Archers following their battles with the Bulgars, Kipchaks, and Magyars.
>Also maybe but minus wings as they are later ceremonial addition and not used in battle
But that's wrong. Just because they were ALSO used later in ceremonials, it's stupid to reason that they weren't in use in battles because of that.
It's history normie trap.
>(I have very little knowledge about this, but) I heard somewhere that those mainstream wings are fake(and it makes sense, why would they use it?), so listen here how knowledgeable I am about this matter.
It's "knights used cranes to get on the horse(and it makes sense, armours weighted like 80kg)" - tier
It's not like Western Europe has been immune to Eastern influences either. The chichak helmet design spread westward from the Ottoman Empire in the 16th century, reaching as far as England during the Civil Wars. The Congreve rocket was adopted by the British in response to Tipu Sultan's successful use of rocket artillery against European-style infantry formations.
lets not forget the entire subculture of runaway Russian serfs who LARPed as Turks