Was their use of violence justified? Was it effective? Or did it hurt their cause in the long run?
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Alexander Green
Extremely effective. Unless one wins outright (very unlikely) the best outcome is guaranteed recognition of ones group as a legal entity whilst maintaining political momentum. Sinn Fein did so.
Logan Evans
Use of violence is never justified.
Adam Murphy
kek
Dominic Johnson
As if the gael was justified in doing anything
imagine britannia wholly given over to the anglo, a world where ireland disappears beneath the waves. a glimpse of a more beautiful existence, it is like looking at heaven through an impenetrable barrier. torture
the gael is an amalgamation of man's worst aspects, as is every human (other than the Chinese) who claims descent from outside england and wales.
Ayden Wood
Justified: yes
Joseph Hall
When every other peaceful avenue has failed or being punished with great impunity and violence then it's very much so justified.
Sebastian Gomez
I want to post this to my facebook, but will the "irish" amerifats cry?
Easton Murphy
Most of them won't even know who Cromwell is
Jace Jones
done
Ethan Campbell
...
Nathan Flores
oh lordy those greeks
Nicholas Jackson
>justified
No. It was in violation of popular sovereignty. Literally painting the map chimp out.
>effective
No. Northern Ireland is still part of the UK.
>ultimately harmful
Maybe. If the Catholics outbreed the Protestants, it may never have mattered. The Troubles could be held over the head of any Irish Nationalist as a moral disincentive in a generation or two if the UK propaganda machine is effective. Not holding my breath.
Matthew Roberts
their use of violence was not justified.
Joseph Cruz
>muh potatoes
Owen Perry
Why do they wear the masks if they are fighting for a just cause? Shouldn't you be proud to show your face and die knowing everyone knows your face since you are fighting for the independence of your country and are just?
Hudson Brooks
said no one ever
Ayden Edwards
You can only defend your freedom with violence. Peaceful advances NEVER work. NEVER.
Violent struggle is the ONLY means, ONLY means of a successful uprising.
Tyler Williams
So the British SAS must be into some really fucked up shit considering their name list isn't open to the public
Isaiah Torres
>special forces are into some really fucked up shit
no way who could have seen this coming
Brandon Morales
the Netherlands are asking the important questions
Angel Gutierrez
ahem
Jose Davis
Yes
Yes, but not effective enough to push the Anglos out.
No.
Jordan Nguyen
Violence against the Anglo, instigator of nearly all forms of war crime, genocide and debauchery, are justified
Thank god that the bog people managed to trigger them by blowing them up, you guys should do it again
Ryan Robinson
> Poland not being: jobs to apply for in England
Fake.
Dylan Peterson
Yes, they were pretty damn successful too considering Gerry Adams can call himself a politician these days.
Tyler Perry
they were recongnized as a belligerant side, so it was effective
Jayden Nguyen
no, emphatically no and almost certainly.
the violence was unjustified because it was fundamentally violence in the cause of defying the will of a majority of the ulster electorate, and cannot claim a defensive motivation because the british armys primary mission only became suppression of the IRA after the IRA began targeting the british troops initially deployed to prevent the loyalists from attacking the catholic communities. republican reflex hatred of the british prevented them from seizing the opportunity to decisively portray the loyalists as oppressors in public opinion and win significant support for civil reform in ulster. The ultimate goal of unification with southern ireland was after all completely unachievable and remains so to this day.
as to the effectiveness of their use of violence, the fact that they disarmed in 1997 for terms they could have gotten in 1977 is fairly telling, the issue isnt with the success or failure of individual attacks or tactics but rather with the fact that however successful they were they could only serve to strengthen british political resolve to force the IRA to peace terms, if the entire sodding luftwaffe couldnt convince britain to give up what hope a bunch of bog trotters with a few tonnes of semtex and some rifles?
and yes it hurt their cause in the long run, they achieved nothing in the good friday agreement that they couldnt have gotten years earlier if they had concentrated on civil disobedience and protest at the inequality between catholics and protestants in NI and limited their paramilitary operations to occassional counter attacks on the loyalists at most.
Michael Moore
I will find it funny forever how they thought Ireland would unify when many families had moved in from the south