The Byzantine Empire was, in fact...

>The Byzantine Empire was, in fact, the Roman Empire as it continued to exist for a thousand years after the old Rome had fallen to the barbarians.Even more, it was regarded by its people as an eternal empire, established by
God to rule mankind from the coming of Christ until the end of time.

>The Byzantine Empire does not have a proper “beginning” since it was, in
fact, the continuation of the Roman state, which had begun (according to
tradition) in 753 bc.

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>Roman Empire
>doesn't hold Rome

Constantinople is the New Rome

Vichy's France was more french than France ever was since Napoleon and yet its capitale was Vichy and not Paris.

>the New Rome
>isn't actually the old Rome

but user, France isn't called Parisia!

Imperium Romanum is not Imperium of Roma

Roman Empire with not holding Rome and ruled by Greeks.

>Basiliea Rhomaion
>isn't actually the Imperium Romanum

WRONG

>still thinks Basileia ton Romaion translates to Roman Empire and not Empire of the Romans

In the later years of the Roman empire Rome as a city became far less important than Constantinople. It saw steady population decline while the eastern empire as a whole thrived.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rump_state

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the west was the fucking rump state by the end of it

>A rump state is the remnant of a once-larger state
Lol, way to prove his point.
Do you think the Roman Empire stopped being the Roman Empire when it pulled out of Dacia?

>Byzaboos not knowing the true continuation of the Roman Empire, the actual fragment of the actual government of the West to survive the fall, and continue ministering the diocese as had been the Roman state charter.

>mfw still exists. checkmate Byzaboos

>schismatics
>roman

WEW
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>it wasn't Roman because it didn't hold Rome!!!!
Was it Roman during the period it did hold Rome, then?

The only schismatics are the ones who call themselves Roman, yet reject the covenant with Rome, itself

in other words, Greek LARPers wangsting about their dead rump state

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rump_states#Late_ancient_history
>The Eastern Roman Empire from the Slavic, Avar, and Bulgar invasions of the Balkan Peninsula and the Persian invasions of eastern Asia Minor of the AD mid-6th century, particularly after its progressive loss of Italy to the Lombards starting in 565[12] and during the height of the Sassanid Empire in the early 7th century, when it lost most of its Asiatic lands and Egypt.

>Continuation of WRE
>Doesn't even hold The whole city

wew

what's that? I couldn't hear you over the 1.2 billion adherents to the only aspect of the Roman government to survive the fall, and reside on the most important hill in the city.

How many Byzantines are left to defend your Greek rump state?

>yes it did hold rome even after the fall of the west
>byzantium gad become the new rome/nova roma, the new capital of the eastern empire
so basically any empire who lost their capital should have just changed their identity?

>so basically any empire who lost their capital should have just changed their identity?

Yes, especially when the empire rise from that city and bore the name of that city

trolololololololol

You should look up the definition of Roman real quick.

>Western Roman Empire
>City of Rome isn't even the capital of the empire by the end of the whole shabang

this

Kind of tired of this argument. People who can't accept Basileia ton Romaion as direct continuation of Imperium Romanum suffer from autism.

a true roman empire has never been tried!!1!

>tfw Rome is still exist while Constantinople be reduced to a muslim cesspool named Istanbul

Byzantines were Greek not Roman Ottoman Empire was also better than Byzantine Empire

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At midnight on the Emperor's pavement flit
Flames that no faggot feeds, nor steel has lit,
Nor storm disturbs, flames begotten of flame,
Where blood-begotten spirits come
And all complexities of fury leave,
Dying into a dance,
An agony of trance,
An agony of flame that cannot singe a sleeve.

Astraddle on the dolphin's mire and blood,
Spirit after spirit! The smithies break the flood,
The golden smithies of the Emperor!
Marbles of the dancing floor
Break bitter furies of complexity,
Those images that yet
Fresh images beget,
That dolphin-torn, that gong-tormented sea.

>what's that? I couldn't hear you over the 1.2 billion adherents to the only aspect of the Roman government to survive the fall
By that logic, every see the around the med is the Roman Empire, since the church was intertwined with the state.

France had several capitals during its history.

Everytime the capital wasn't P*ris, France was thriving.

This

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>Unlike most empires, the Byzantine Empire did not grow out of conquest. Rather, it evolved from an existing political system that had itself developed from the ‘high empire’ of Augustus and his successors.11 New settlers in fourth-century Constantinople were not immigrants from outside: they came from within the existing territories of the Roman Empire. This makes the change from Roman Empire to Byzantium both difficult and challenging for historians to trace.

It was more like dropping dead weight

>That pic
We are in the worse timeline, just imagine how amazing 16th-18th century Byzantine uniforms would look.

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