How did they destroy the Islamic Golden age?

How did they destroy the Islamic Golden age?

What did mongols smelt like?

They didn't. It was long gone by the time smelly steppe people arrived.

Alcohol

Also By the time Mongols were in high gear, the Islamic "golden age" was already over. Their "Golden Age" actually means the old persians that still retained their scientific knowledge when they were conquered by the Islamic tribes. Within few generations of being conquered, the knowledge and expertise and the drive was lost.

>Their "Golden Age" actually means the old persians that still retained their scientific knowledge when they were conquered by the Islamic tribes

Sauce? Never heard of this before

>Their "Golden Age" actually means the old persians that still retained their scientific knowledge when they were conquered by the Islamic tribes. Within few generations of being conquered, the knowledge and expertise and the drive was lost.
Bullshit.
here.

It was lost because the Abbasids declined in power, culminating in a shiite revolt based it Egypt that led to the Fatimid Caliphate.

Compounding this was the Mamluk Generals rise in power. Pretty much the Abbasids gave away military authority to their Turkic Slave Soldiers who profitted in the Chaos by divvying up the Abbasid Caliphate. The worst was when Turkic generals took over Iran and split it from the Abbasid's rule.

Compounding all that was the Seljuk Invasion as the newly converted Seljuk Confederacy claimed to restore order in the Caliphate on behalf of the Abbasid Caliphate. Something they made up as the Abbasids pretty much were in no position to argue and the Seljuks promptly established their own Empire. Which was a short lived empire that Balkanized and fully submerged former Abbasid territory into fragmentation.

tl;dr the Golden Age ended not because of the bullshit you're spewing but the Pax Islamica which allowed for all that learning to take place, the peace that the Abbasids held since the late 600s AD collapsed by the mid 800s AD.

the real reason that islam is such a sideshow is the fall of the most forward thinking philosophy of the medieval world, Islam in the age right after the fall of the rashidun was infused with Neo-Platonic, Aristotelian and Persian philosophy in a form called Muʿtazila,which can be summed up as
"The Qur'an and the hadiths are metaphorical and not the word of god and humans have free will and god takes a mostly hands off approach and the best way we can understand god and get closer to him is to use our god given ability to use logic and reason to understand the world he built"
this worked fairly well and science flourished under the caliphs but then the caliphs lost authority during a series of debacles and rebellions(one involving vegan Muslim extremists who sacked mecca but that's a different story) called the anarchy of Samara during this time mainly Turkish slaves worked there way up in the army, at the same time a pissed off student of a Muʿtaziite scholar decided to launch a new sect who's beliefs amounted to "God is an autistic sperg who literally wrote the Qur'an and cant stand to have anything out of place so if even a single atom it out of place god stops time and personally moves it to where he wants it, oh and humans have no free will your life is predetermined by god" sound familiar?

now this brand of Islam caught on and spread like wildfire just as one seljuk was raping the abbasids, now the Turks were not Persians or Arabs, they were superstitious shits steeped in wacky mysticism from there time on the Eurasian steppes. now when this guy took over the Muʿtazila sect fell out of favor and the proto-modern Islam became more mainstream that isn't to say the Muʿtazila were gone overnight but there power and influence waned

then came the death knell for Islam, the mongol invasion to cut it short they raised Baghdad to the ground along with the library there and killed what were probably the last true Muslim intellectuals

after the mongol invasion Muʿtazila became a dirty word associated with heresy even to this day Muslim terror groups use Muʿtazila as an insult and a justification to kill other Muslims

Isn't Balkanisation what essentially made Europe so advanced? Competition stimulated innovation.

My bet is more on Al-Ghazali and the general tide of anti-intellectualism that arose in the Muslim world somewhere in 10th century.

The smelly steppe people knew how to fight.

But being honest, the Islamic world when the Mongols arrived was already fucked. Fatimid Caliphate and shiiieeet.

There's obviously more than one reason why the Golden Age declined. Balkanization of the region, the Mongol invasions and Al-Ghazali are probably just a few of the reasons for the decline.

Fatimid x Abbasid was the biggest problem for the stability in the Islamic world.

It doesn't matter if the Mu'tazila were "forward thinking", they were MASSIVE heretics. The Quran coming directly from God is a key tenet of Islam.

The Mu'tazila would be like a sect of Christianity that said "Yeah, Jesus was a prophet and a cool dude and all, but not actually the son of god"

Most civilisaitons at their golden age are militarsitically far from their prime and disintegrating.

It's a little more complicated than that. The Golden Age was actually just conquering Persia, and giving it access to old Greek Texts.

Body odor and horse manure

>The Mu'tazila would be like a sect of Christianity that said "Yeah, Jesus was a prophet and a cool dude and all, but not actually the son of god"

But you can have divine revelation and still not embrace occasionalism, which is what the Asharite school did. And when you embrace occasionalism you reject non-contradiction and metaphysics falls apart. From there you destroy philosophy and then the rest of the sciences. Theology becomes dogmatics and science becomes engineering.

>a golden age
>got ass lit on fire by frogs like 2000 miles away.

>a sect of Christianity that said "Yeah, Jesus was a prophet and a cool dude and all, but not actually the son of god"

that's literally islam

That's literally retarded, the golden age happened between 800 AD and 1100 AD, Persia was conquered in 650 AD.
What happened, is that they threw away the arab supremacy system of the Ummayads, in the Abbasyds, everyone was equal, this was a golden opportunity for all the people who interested in science but never had access to resources, the idea that it was purely persian is not wrong, most of the people who had the breakthroughs were persians, they didn't need to translate many texts to Arabic, and some of them were simply genius, Alkhawarismi and Avicenna for example, but a lot of work was done by many ethnicities, Persians, Syrians, Iraqis, Egyptians, North Africans and Jews.
In the period between 800 and 1000, 2/3 of the visible stars had been named, they improved sailing using guiding stars, the use of a unified decimal system improved trade, medicine especially took a great step forward, Baghdad was so impressive that even the vikings decided to take a break from their usual raiding to trade goods.
The difference between the greeks and the muslim is that, greeks worked upon their rhetorical science, muslims were the first to take their work to the practical test and improve upon it (creating a separate branch of mathematics of previously scattered concepts: Algebra, trying to synthesis a philosopher's stone or red sulfur, turns out the greeks ideas about alchemy is bogus)

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