Anyone here /martialArts/?

Depends how strict your dojo is with fingernails. I have a friend who does it and gets gashed up something fierce, you'd think he was a cat-punching vigilante or something.

Judo is great. Id do it in a heartbeat but it's surprisingly hard to find in japan outside of kodokan

Been looking for boxing gyms but most look like the bring your family type

You could just find a jijutsu gym, you'll learn 90% of judo techniques.

Been doing judo for about a year
It's not a strength sport...you have to be agile and quick
>tfw bulking and all this cardio hurts my gains

Only thing I can recommend is that you learn how to fall really well and learn quickly because if you fuck it up I guarantee you'll be out of lifting for weeks
>partner fucked up a tomoe nage
>i pretty much shoulder tackle the mat
>r.i.p right shoulder, microfibre tears to right shoulder
>didn't lift for 6 months

Except with no randori thus making them useless. Or do you mean bjj?

It is bad on the knees.
Long term judo fucks with your joints more then BJJ.
Impacts on mat, even with falls shakes you.

Most old guys become ground work specialist due to this. Judo is legit as a martial art. I still cross train it.

All I suggest is practice your kata way more then your rolling or randori.
When you get old you will understand why.

Also lift weights as this prevents joint injurys.

JJJ is still useful.
60% of what they teach in BJJ and judo Kata is JJJ.In unarmed fights it fucking sucks ( purely speaking generalized JJJ).

People forget you need years of practice to even attempt to disarm someone.

JJJ teaches you kata that can work.

Well judo teaches skills that focus on killing someone by smashing them into the ground.

Well BJJ is focused on choking someone out.

I did judo for ~7 years
I enjoyed it
In real life it is not too useful but it did help me develop great balance and grip strength
What do you want to know?

How bad on knees?

Just how you got involved and if its fun etc. How hard is it?

not him but I just saw that there was a class available nearby my house so I took it
got into it because I wanted to be a black belt in something

judo is major fun, throwing cunts and choking people is hardcore af
>hiza guruma for life
>perfect squat form for ippon seoi nage so it comes naturally

only hard part about it is the cardio, and if you're a bigger guy this might hinder progress since it really is a cardio sport though strength helps

Got involved looking for a sport to do and saw a flyer on a notice board. Just turned up in shorts and a t shirt and asked if I can try it, they told me they have a learners session and to come and what to come with.
It was slow to start learning the basics, but I enjoyed the challenge to get the techniques right. Once you get to sparing level it becomes a lot more fun. We didn't start really sparing until you knew how to fall and did a small group of techniques correctly, up until then it was just practicing everything on eachother which was still fun but not as fun
I had a very good sensei and I think that mixed with my desire to learn made it quite easy to learn.

What about knees?

>ippon seoi nage
>good throw
fucking easiest throw to block

Boxer here; been crosstraining in martial arts though for the last 9 years.

I trained in BJJ for a little while; one time I got to the class late and had to pair up with this fat smelly retard man child guy. He was rolling in a gi top and a pair of sports shorts.

He smelled like crusty boxer shorts that hadn't been changed for a while; and at some point during the roll he had an erection. I'm not even joking either guys, I was really angry after the class.

I've got a fair few stories from my time training but by far that is the weirdest. I've never met a karate instructor who wasn't an arrogant asshole yet either. I tried karate a few times; earlier this year I tried to leave boxing and take up karate because I wanted to stop getting so much brain trauma; however I was better than the instructors when it came to kumite sparring and they were arrogant as hell. I'm back at boxing again now preparing for a fight in feb.

>be me
>high school student
>super fatty
>bullied up the ass
>start Tae Kwon Do
>that'llteachthem.jpg
>lose like 40# in 2 yrs
>get super cocky whipping ass on the dojo
>get black belt
>oh shit bruh. I'm unstoppable now
>go to bully
>time to exact my revenge
>challenge to fight
>he accepts
>try to kick bully and he takes me down
>wtf is this shit?!???
>get ass kicked
>Tae Kwon Do never taught me ground game.
>mfw I wasted over two years learning the wrong martial art

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depends on the circumstances, I've found it's best when uke is setting up for a backwards throw

haven't had knee issues yet, did have some ankle problems though
>when you fall, you're supposed to keep one leg straight and the other bent
>I kept falling so that my sole of my foot (straight leg) would make full contact with the mat
caused me a bunch of pain around the heel and opposite the heel of my feet so make sure you don't half ass it when you learn how to fall

Been there and done that; it made me take a step back and totally re-evaluate my training. I had to learn timing and all the basics basically.

story?

Nice b8 mate

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I was a moron when I was younger. I spent 2 years training kickboxing and thought I was the shit (I was never really any good I was just scrappy)

I was walking through some woods with friends smoking some weed and some guys asked me for my joint, I told them no and it turned into an arguement.

Me and this guy started fighting, I was bouncing around for the sake of moving (I now realize this was because I had no timing or defense, I didn't know how to stand in front of my opponent and control distance).

I threw a couple of shots that missed, so did he, I tried to throw him down to the ground and we both ended up tumbling down. He had me in a headlock punching my head while I tried to get free. I was on my knees at the time; one of his friends ran over to kick me and I grabbed hold of his jeans or shirt or something and used it to pull myself up.

There was a bit of shouting afterwards and we all went our seperate ways.

I then left kickboxing and started boxing. Without sound arrogant I'm now actually pretty good; I'm one of the top guys down my boxing club and it's been 9 years since I started my martial arts journey; 7 years of which have been spent boxing. I'm still only fighting at amateur but I'm at 9 wins 1 loss.

I've since had a street fight with someone who picked trouble with me outside of a shop; he started the trouble and tried pushing me so I shoved him back, he then tried to hit me so I proceeded to fight back. Once he realized there was no way he could win he decided to go away while telling me he'd knife me and pretending he had a knife down the back of his jeans; I wasn't bothered I was just happy for him to leave. Fighting is for morons and I've got no interest in it now I'm older; I love the sport though. Everything in my life has gone to shit yet boxing is still there for me; all my friends left me, I've had a string of failed relationships however boxing and the guys I train with are always there. Best choice I ever made.

Spoken like someone who has never had a fight or had to apply his bullshit meme martial art against something legit like boxing, mma or Muay thai.

Wing chun is the worst of the 3 you mentioned.

Nope.

I train both judo and jujitsu. Fundamentals may have lots of overlap, but advanced tier stuff is lots different.

I'm wondering.

What's the general opinion on Capoeira?

Practical? Of course not. But it's a hell of a lot of fun and is great for exercise.

Congrats on making it in your own way. Most people are shallow. These days I expect them to be sincere from the start and to know how to say "I'm sorry" and "thank you" sincerely when appropriate, that's all. It's usually a major red flag when they don't and most people are like that. No loss.

With respect to your first fight, would you still try to control distance if it happened again? Wouldn't you go all in and rely on your training to defeat your opponent as quickly as possible?

Fun as dance, but I'd rather take up, well, dance for that. Better music, useful in other contexts.

fair enough, but if you kick niggas in the face while dancing you get in trouble. At least in capo people aren't surprised.

If it happened again? I'd just do what I do now. You fight the way you train; you go into auto pilot in the moment but I've got enough experience now to pace myself rather than blowing myself out in the first few seconds with a barrage of shots.

In the boxing ring I tend to work off my jab; I throw my jab in multiples to control my opponent and I use my footwork to make sure I come off at an angle after I've thrown my shots. I try to be a smart fighter; I'm also good with head movement. The big difference for me was standing my ground in front of my opponent and reacting; whether it's moving my head or my feet to evade attacks. You gotta be close enough to your opponent to launch an attack and you can't do that if you're constantly moving. Check out olympic fencers for example; they're stood in front of each other controlling distance. I do alot of shadowboxing and skipping though.

I've seen some legit uses of capoeira in the ocatagon.

I saw a guy just spam butterfly kicks till he landed one on the guys head and knocked him out.

Yeah its got a couple really good kicks to use and a lotta mobility

Judo is a ton of fun, and since its not a striking MA you get a lot more and more intense sparring, with less risk of brain damage and shit. You can still fuck yourself up, but I'd rather have bad joints at 60 than -40iq, and if you and your opponents know what you're doing its pretty safe.

Judo is a sport primarily, don't go into it expecting to be taught how to fight. You learn how to compete in judo. Like everything, there's some overlap and transferable skills, but you're missing the point if you're doing it for self defense.

Strength is a big advantage but won't replace technique at higher levels.
There are few things more satisfying than perfectly predicting your opponent's next move and flipping him through the air like he weighs 10lbs. Executed correctly, the body mechanics in judo techniques are really incredible to experience.

Wing Chun person here. It's really meme-y unless you know what you're doing. 95% of TKD is McDojo bullshit and sporting, not actual martial arts. I don't know much about Karate.

Do BJJ or wrestling instead. Yes, it will feel gay at first. Get over it.

Interesting. There's probably a good deal of rhythm and mental game to footwork as well.

someone make a webm youtube.com/watch?v=MRTsabfMTgs

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It's all angles Bruv; but no wasted movement. Only move when you're evading or resetting; it's the old stick and move thing. You stick and control your distance if you're trying to close the distance to land something; you only "bounce" off at an angle after a combination to get clear and reset. Economy of motion.

I crosstrained in jeet kune do for 3 years too; it was all meme shit though to be honest and boxing did everything better. The only thing I took from JKD was "slip and hit" rather than "slip then hit"; like slipping to the right while throwing your jab to the body; or slipping to the right while throwing a left overhand.

Aside from those techniques though I didn't really take anything from JKD other than a bunch of rubbish meme trapping techniques.

People might think I sound like I'm full of shit because of all the training I've done; but it has to be understood that this is all I have in my life. In all cases I guess I'm cocoon mode; I have no social life and boxing is the only thing I'm good at. I never applied myself to anything else in my life; I have no interest in career or money or anything like that; I was always really lazy and quit early. Literally the only thing I've ever been able to apply myself to was boxing because it interested me. I tried quitting because I was scared of brain trauma; but I got really depressed and went back.

Is bad joints real or a meme? How do i save my knees?

Got videos of your fights?

Why don't you start giving boxing lessons or open your own gym?

So whats your job? Age? Family? Sex life? If you are a comotted boxer you must be ripped so why arent you banging that pucci?

Got videos but no way I'm sharing my personal info on here.

And that long term goal is to help out down my club; theres quite alot of former fighters who do it down my place and I intend to join that scene eventually. Right now though I'm focusing on my own shit and when I get there I'll get there.

The same yoga routines that fix squat form prevents joint injury in judo.

karateka here, you have no idea; user's right on the money

Its not really that much harder on you than any regular strenuous physical activity is.
Make sure you have good form, stretch well, keep the relevant muscles strong, and if you're getting thrown in sparring/training focus on landing right and not fighting it because that's when injuries happen.

Girls just tend to lead to a bad cycle; the only way to win that game for me personally is not to play it.

And I work 4 on 4 off desk job; one week I work nights and the other week I work days. I'm actually at work right now on a nightshift 6pm - 6am; I ran out of work to do at 8pm though so I've spent the last few hours on here posting shit and browsing youtube. I'm literally bored asf and trying to change career right now.

I had a menkyo kaiden in tenjin shinyo ryu jujutsu tell me there's no point learning JJJ without at least a brown belt in judo because you can't get a true understanding of kuzushi through kata

You probably just went to a mcdojo mate, also you sound like a faggot.

Where do you live?

Go to europe and go to uk sports. Uk is investing lots in sports.

judo is a beautiful but it can get pretty motorically challenging as you get older. also injuries are more often and severe. keep in mind that modern judo is an olympic sport, requires a lot of conditionng, strength and it's very very dynamic. mental strngth is key

Anything but taekwondo. Mcdojo'd to hell and back, good luck finding any instructor who will teach you anything useful for combat outside of ATA/ITA whatever competition.

jitsu doesn't actually mean anything, I cant believe people here on forchin continue with that shit even though they're exposed to the japanese language through anime. fuck your jewjitsu fagit

Is 27 too old to start boxing? I'm not looking to start actually getting into amateur/pro stuff, I'm too old, but it's a sport I've always been interested in and seems like a great way of getting into shape.

nidan judo here, true dat m8

Never too old. People where I train have started older and had their first amateur bouts within a year. Throw your jab in multiples and put the work in; you gotta train more than once a week though if you want to actually improve. I go boxing 4 nights a week; at a minimum I'd say 2 times a week.

I'd probably go 2-3 times a week, there's a gym about 5 minutes from where I get off the train after work and it looks like a lot of 1-on-1/small group sessions, no larger than 6. The guy trains most of a pro hockey team too which is kind of neat, but I've talked with him on the phone and he seems to know his shit regardless

As long as you guys do sparring every week it's worth it. If your gym doesn't spar every week then it's no good.

My club spars on a monday and a thursday night; but there theres always guys who are up for sparring after classes usually anyway. Theres classes on every night of the week; some nights it's simply strength and conditioning circut training followed by sparring; other nights it's padwork or bag work. I really enjoy it though and I'm at a point in my life where I don't enjoy going out to bars or anything anymore; my social life consists of going boxing. I've got a good bunch of guys around me down there while my old friends were trying to hold me back with drugs; or hoping I'd fail just so they could feel better about their own pointless lives living to work and get pissed in town on weekends.

Boxing has given me excitement in life.

It's nice to have a passion like that, man.

>If your gym doesn't spar every week then it's no good.
Ooh I should ask. I don't know if they do. Shit, would it matter if I were just starting out?

Girls are just a cycle of suffering; friends let me down; I have no interest in a career, money doesn't equal happiness and material shit is just shallow, I grew out of video games a few years ago and I just can't spark any interest in them.

Literally the only thing in life that brings me any kind of happiness is boxing; if I'm not working toward something in boxing then I'm bored and miserable.

I tried to quit earlier this year due to fear of brain trauma and it sent me to a really bad place; I ended up proper miserable and bored ALL the time because all of a sudden I had loads of free time with nothing to do. I tried to do what normal people do; i tried to go out in town and drink alcohol but I hated it because I felt like I was putting myself to sleep in the matrix; i tried playing some video games but I was bored with every game I tried to play because they just aren't fun anymore.

Boxing is the only way for me to escape the mediocre life of being a wage slave; I've tried settling down and it was too boring for me. I'm too independent and I like to be free to do what I want when I want.

It matters. You don't get any better unless you spar. Hitting pads and hitting a moving opponent are two VASTLY different things.

A year of sparring only would beat a year of padwork/bagwork only.

I will find out. Thank you, friend user

Sort of related, but does anyone have issues with getting that killer instinct? I'm pretty good but when I spar I have a mental hurdle of popping dudes in the face, I pull punches all the time. Once I get hit once or twice I have no problem punching them, it's almost like I have a subconscious need to get "permission" to start hitting the face.

Best of luck on the path. It was the best choice I ever made and it showed me a side of myself that I like and respect. Some people get hit and they crumble; some people get tired and they quit mentally and just turtle up and take a beating.

I don't do either of those things; I keep going and put it all on the line. I found a strength in myself I didn't know I had. I've seen guys come in who look tough and talk the talk and are more alpha than me; but then when it's come to sparring they've been absolute pussies and they've quit after a few weeks. Anyone can talk the talk but not everyone can walk the walk.

I learned to never quit because I had no choice; I was sick of being a pussy and no matter how bad i got beat up in sparring it could never feel as bad as living as a pussy like I did for the first 18 years of my life. I was willing to take the pain because I had to escape being a weak faggot and i was determined to do it. I remember being hit in the face and flinching and looking away and breaking form/turning my back; now it doesn't phase me. It's not pleasant but my main focus is my opponent and not myself. You're gonna get hit so you can either get hit and lose the chance to counter; or you can get hit and be determined to get them back.

Lack of experience user; it'll pass. Throw your jab in multiples and you'll find you improve tenfold. They can't do anything if you've got your fastest punch constantly popping them in the face and blinding them/breaking their posture. Their only option is to circle off and reset. Once i learned how important it is to throw my jab in multiples I improved tenfold; I control my opponents with multiple long jabs. I use my front foot to measure my distance; if my front foot is touching my opponents lead foot chances are my jab can reach without me stepping forward; I stand sideways using my lead foot as a measuring tool.

What do you mean tumour? You should be careful man

Thanks for the advice senpai! I'm doing Muay Thai so the advice doesn't exactly carry over but I appreciate it. I've had some results actively reminding myself that they signed up to spar knowing they'd get hit, no reason to feel bad about it. Maybe I'm just too much of a sweetie :3

Great way to meet chicks

I know what you mean, except I'm even worse. Even when I get hit, I still don't feel comfortable hitting people. The only time I punch someone decently is when I know for certain they're stronger and better than me.

tumour? What? Earlier I mentioned brain trauma if that's what you mean; as in brain damage from being hit in the head too much.

Maybe if you hurt yourself while performing a SELF DEFENSE technique, it's you that sucks, not your friend.

I think it's a combination of being a beginner and not being a terrible aggressive person. I've improved the more I spar, so I think it's just a mental grind. gotta cultivate that ruthlessness.

Brain Damage is no joke. You should really be careful

I've actually done martial arts for 2-3 years now. I've done countless sparring. I just can't bring myself to hit someone without reservation (again, barring a very tangible skill/strength gap).

It's weird for me. I'm a beginner but I've been at it for a year so i'm not fresh of the boat or anything. When brand new high school kids come in who think they're hot shit and spar at a super high intensity right off the bat I relish the opportunity to go with them. I let him roll for about 60 seconds then for the rest of the round I go all out.

Pretty much.
You have to cross train a sport jujitsu style.

Bad.

Are knees are fucked anyways from age.

Do your squats and deads. And don't spar a lot. You will be fine.

Still it happens from throws.

What is the best martial art that can be learned in dormitory room and gym. We have a punchong bag

I might go check out this BJJ place later today. It's a machado place.

Taekwon-do is near thai boxing tier when it's ITF instead of that pansy-ass Olympic TKD.

I've been in judo for 15 years and I've seen very few knee injuries in the older guys, I've seen far more shoulder, wrist and finger injuries, and torn hamstrings.

Injury is always a risk, and I'd never recommend kata over randori if you actually want to be able to throw someone. If you don't want to spar a lot, uchi-komi and nage-komi is what you should be doing.

They were before Brexit, don't expect the tories to invest much in anything that doesn't line their own pockets from now on.

Herpes and ringworm is a legitimate risk of grappling

you dont.

thats why you dont do grappling because grappling is fucking gay and take up the sweet science of boxing or similar full contact striking combat sport instead

>invent combat art
>people turn it into sport
>make people score more for kicks because they look nicer
>everybody starts kicking, nobody bothers punching anymore

what a way to fuck up a legitimate fighting style

none. maybe use the bag and ask somebody to teach you how to punch

Anyone?

>Black belt in two years
Confirmed for McDojo

more like
>learning TKD for actual fights

Muay thai fighter here, how the advice dont carry over? in the normal stance jabs are the best thing you can learn to begin.