/owg/ - Olympic Weightlifting general

No.

Can you drop rubber tri grip plates (rubber coated)
Or is it gonna damage the bar/platform.

Serious question:

What is it that prevents the arms from snapping back at the shoulder joints when you snatch the weight up?

I feel like if I tried to do this with the smallest weight my arms would snap back and simply destroy my shoulder joints and/or elbows.

Tendons and the structure of the elbow that stops the arm from moving into hyperextension.

Guys I might be competing in my first ever meet in December. Any advice for a first timer and also any weight loss tips?

how necessary are proper shoes for olympic lifting? I'm trying to learn the lifts properly so I'm not too sure if I should bother with proper shoes. I'm currently just doing everything shoe less (Squats and diddles shoe less as well.)

Any good beginner programs for oly lifting? Are beginner programs for absolute beginners to lifting or those just starting oly lifting?

no you cant, both will get damaged

aye ladfams my squat is weak as hell. I can front squat 127.5 but i can 120. How do i fix it. I know you have to squat more but is there a specific program I should follow or something?

can clean 120*

Why would you cut for your very first meet? Are you hitting nationally competitive numbers?

max your front squat every day

no this is retarded, trust me i've done it for my bsquat when i was a weak shit like u, i improved my 1rm quick but it didnt transfer to lifts

you need strong core for good front squat, use the back squat to get stronger legs, use front squats and core exercises to lift more. meaning use reps on front squats, if i start from a month or even a week off, i'll do sets of 8 for a couple sets then gradually drop the reps over the week to 3-5 depending on what cycle i'm doing usually more on 5s

this is top secret, if you want get strong learn how to actually use your core. the best cue i've heard to conceptualize the proper use of core is think about moving a car or something very heavy it will be almost instinctual to stay tight when you're pushing against something heavy

because it's the back squat, front squat has more carryover to the lifts. when I was maxing my front squat every day, my clean went up significantly.

you can increase your front squat with ugly form like i did with my back squat and still get no carry over that was my point

don't increase your front squat with ugly form and keep progressing on the lifts. it's not hard.

that's what inevitably happens when you max everyday with that weak squat

NOPE. EVERYONE ALREADY NO HOW TO TRAIN HAHAH. IS NOT VERY HARD BECAUSE I WROTE IT EVEN THOUGH I CANT SQUAT 100KG HEHAHAH

Just program around your weaknesses. The two big aspects are the quads, obviously, and the upper back and lumbar.

anyone else here have issues with tennis elbow? my left elbow has been taking a beating from CnJs. A friend of mine recommended more push presses (which I've been neglecting)

>talmbout finally starts giving real advice
>it's actually totally on point

Huh.

alltheheavylifting.com/five-online-olympic-weightlifting-beginner-programs/

÷^/

What the fuck would push presses do to help elbow tendonitis?

he was thinking triceps

What about 'em?

You may be straining your arms when you're recovering from the catch, which may be due to rack inflexibility or any number of things. To help with rack flexibility, hold a pvc pipe with a clean grip in front of you, elbows at rack height, forearms perpendicular to upper arms. From here, try to touch your elbows. Hold that stretch, release, repeat.

You can also stretch the muscles around your elbow by pinning in contraction then extending. Do that for all the muscles of the arm.

You can max your squat everyday while keeping good form if you only go to a daily max not an all time one

It's your fault you used shitty form and got no carryover but then again that's the calstrengh way :^)))

is that guy in the OP's Webm natural?

Shut the fuck up, you stupid pedophile who doesn't know what he's talking about. Platforms at comps are three times bigger than this.

my hips are doing this weird thing where I catch the bar and instead of going straight down, I go down and forward. How do I stop this from happening? It's like I catch the bar and it's OK until I descend deeper, then I just lose my position and it looks like shit

Ok so I finally got a squatrack at home. Now let's say you have the time to use it whenever, is Bulgarian such a bad idea? Is 2x week too much?

I just got a platform and rack at home now and it's comfy.

2x a day*

Have you ever been to comp? Easily would've stayed on the platform. I think the fact he's using straps makes it 'count' less too captain autismo

Lack of flexibility in ankles hips and thoracic spine. V common but a bitch to fix.

wuts a good pull to classic ratio

how good this must feel, knowing that you are stronger than everyone arround you? people celebrating about how strong you are

a feeling of invincibillity

Maybe he shouldn't have cheated?

Hmmmm

If anyone thinks this hasn't been set up, he is straight up retarded. The amount of important lifters banned this years from Olympics, WL included is laughable.

They retested 4 years old samples from 2012 Olympics, and banned him 2 months before competition. If you know anything about those tests, then you should know that they would find the drugs back then in London. There are about 4 tests done by the nation you represent before you leave, and then about 6 total before and after you arrived Rio, done by the most inquisive specialists possible. In terms of new drugs, this is mostly a blind search, done during the period between Olympics. But they claim that they hadn't found a simple fucking anabolic steroid back then, a form of testosterone.

Lets say a mass spec from 2012 could detect 1 part per 10 million, and a newer mass spec from 2016 can detect 1 part per 100 million, a newer mass spec can detect PED usage from months before an older piece of equipment can, hence why the IOC and WADA does these retests (those numbers are arbitrary, but it illustrates the point). It's not as though WADA only retests to find new drugs, they also retest because they have much newer equipment on their hands to detect PED use weeks before, or in some cases, months and months before the olympics.

thanks for the heads up.
Gonna have to splash out on bumper plates

haha you think Kazakhstan would ban ilya?

They were looking for a tbol metabolite discovered in 2013

Can I lift decent on national level if I started at 18?

What core exercises?

Is ilya actually banned for life? Are the Russians?

eat a ton of food, i mean he's pretty fat as well as swole

Yes if you lift in some shit country like USA

alright, I'm gonna really focus on t-spine for a bit, thanks

You don't understand this as much as you think you do lol

morning owg

learn diaphragmatic breathing, use diaphragmatic breathing to brace core. use properly braced core on every exercise, practice with planks make sure you squeeze abs and glutes when doing plank

i also like slow descent squats sometimes i add pause at the bottom, 5 reps for a couple sets dont ask me how to program these or i will punch you in the mouth. just replace one of your squats with these. use a weight where you can stay tight throughout and never relax at the bottom

also liking snatch balance right now, never used to do them because i was following stupid programming by stupid people, now i do them cause im not stupid anymore and i'm much stronger then u lmao. same thing with everything stay tight throughout

you can just google ab exercises desu just as long as you do them properly like i describe in the first paragraph they would benefit u

i always post too early or something, i like snatch balance because it teaches you better position at the bottom

if you think about doing a hip snatch like you do your snatch balances = instant improvement in your snatch as long as you practice the snatch balance correctly like the guy in webm

Can you expand on how snatch balance slow like that carries over? Do u mean in terms of bracing etc?

in terms of everything, you learn how to support the weight overhead and control it down to a strong bottom position without wobbling like a retard and having to chase the bar around because you lost tightness somewhere

also if you look at the dip this is similar to how you should initiate a hip snatch, torso vertical and just slight bend at the knees

just try it you'll feel the difference

Thanks, i have had a lot of mobility problem and stability and overhead squats and snatch balance have helped alot in feel much more comfy

Weirdly my jerks have got better too well maybe not weird, like u said I think bracing and learning to support the weight there has helped a bit too

I think sn bal gets a bad rep it's good to see some love

it's night here

stop living in a country that i am not in

>not being american
honestly, and i'm not joking here, kill yourself

is this the "time to rack it" guy?

I'm a fat piece of shit, my lifts suck and I just don't wanna be in 105+.

Twice a day is fine.

i am incapable of getting into the start position of a snatch with a straight lumbar spine. once the bar is off the floor it straightens out

my overhead position is fine, no back rounding. i don't think stretching is the answer. i stretch all the time and it hasn't improved at all

wat do

Did they ever pop that guy who won 77 in rio?

no. stay assblasted china fanboy

I don't give a shit about china. It's more about him doing like a 14kg jump and like 5 kg PR after just coming back from a doping ban

he's natty enough to not get caught and he's champion. china fanbois eternally BTFO by BASED KAZAKH

honestly who cares about doping in this sport? they all do during training, most just cycle off early enough before competition to avoid getting popped

I'm assuming he was still doing attempts backstage in the warmup room, I highly doubt he went from 200 to 214. My guess is his coaches aren't retarded enough to dope him up enough to the point it'd show up on tests at Rio.

Stanozolol - developed in 1962
Dehydrochlorometylotestosterone - developed by Polish scientist in German Democratic Republic, so at least before 1990

Literally shitties tier of steroids you can find, which on a side note gives you balls cancer, but yea, I'm wrong here ;^)

Tbol is actually goat

Sn deadlift but set position from the top and do slow controlled to the floor. It's easier to set back from top

have you tried finding a way to set up with a straight back (e.g. by setting up on toes), locking your back, then starting dynamically?

No, you don't understand

Just because a drug is old doesn't mean there are new ways to detect it's metabolites that range back longer than previously thought

Stanozolol also works that's why it's so prevalent. But keep your tin foil hat conspiracy on the fact is ilya is a cheat by definition and he has got caught

Ok where do i move

You are right. He is wrong.

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Fucking kek

i would ilyas daughter desu

dont tell him i said that

Sick fuck commi trip on pls

youtube.com/watch?v=7l7j_cAGAvM

@ 2.30 what are them legging type things called and where do I get them lads

Vintage Adidas leggings. eBay.

Went to a evaluation at an oly lifting gym

Coach did some tests apparently
>muscular imbalances everywhere
>shoulders, neck, arms are tight
>because of this left arm doesn't straighten properly
>hips also tight

He told to go see a physio and come in a couple times of week to work on getting my shit straighten out

anyone have a similar experience?

What's a good beginners routine for someone with a general strength background transitioning into owg?

bulgarian method

everything neo-cal strength produces is cringe worthy garbage

good lord

this is made by jon north himself honoring himself lol

>neo-cal strength
kek

I think most of it is the fact that they've turned from a fairly respectable weightlifting gym into a place where Dave Spitz ignores everyone but Wes, trap music makes your teeth shake, and it's more about how good you can look for instagram. Mash is the new Cal Strength