What are some masterly military maneuvers of history?

any good primer reading material?

Spinning, that was a good trick

youtube.com/watch?v=_LQcdWS7ce0

>Siege city
>Build wall to counter enemy sallies and the bunch of civilians that the Gauls have kicked out of their city
>Hear that an army is coming to relieve the city
>Build another fucking wall that goes parallel to the first one
>When the enemy finally arrives, both sides attack at the same time
>Caught fighting in both the front and back
>Gauls breach a part of the wall and start to wreak havoc
>Break out with your cavalry at what looks like a losing fight
>Romans are at the breaking point
>lolno.bmp
>Go around your defenses where the Gauls breached the wall
>Charge at their back
>They fucking start routing
I bet he was rock hard right then and there

>routing gauls

Is this supposed to be an achievement? Hannibal did it just by crossing a fucking river

It is considering the Romans were in a losing fight and about to break. The Gauls were INSIDE their fortress, so they had lost all their defensive advantage. Not to mention, they were facing all of Gaul.

Hannibal also ran away like a little bitch and killed himself.

He was always a loser

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Yeah it doesn't matter how many great victories you win if you're fighting a losing war where you're on borrowed time.

battle of Austerlitz
Napoopan basically tricked a larger army with a terrain advantage into abandoning a hill and got btfo'd

Hannibal could have done big damage if Carthage had supported him. Hannibal had too much Roman in him for his mercantile countrymen to understand.

I bet he never expected Rome to go full keel on Carthage itself, though.

Almost all of Hannibal's tactics were ingenious but this one's my favorite: Battle of Lake Trasimene. Hannibal anticipated Flaminius' route along a lake bordered by a wooded hill. He arranged an ambush so that the Roman army was completely cutoff on three sides and basically pushed them into the lake and drowned them.
perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0234:book=3:chapter=84
livius.org/articles/battle/lake-trasimene/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lake_Trasimene

Battle of Myeongyang where Yin Sun-Sin BTFO'd a navy roughly 10 times his size

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How has no one mentioned the battle of marathon yet? Such a simple tactic. Make the center of your line thin so naturally it bends, but somehow the men don't fold. They hold out just long enough for the strengthened flanks to eventually envelope the numerically superior force.

how do we know all these details about battles 2500 years ago?

Who would win? an overstretched and exhausted Panzer Division trickling into the battlefield in the dead of winter, or a Soviet tank Army with 7:1 in tanks, 11:1 in infantry, and 20:1 in artillery in their favour?

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I'm guessing the Germans?

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Top kek

Go on Gramps, tell us

>116 cannons captured
just fuck my shit up

Who would win?
>the bulk of the Royal Navy moored in Alexandria including two 40,000+ ton battleships
or
>eighty froggy pasta bois

Except in the end, they end up getting their shit pushed right back in

In all, it's a very risky tactic. If your center is too thin and/or it breaks, your forces are split in half and you're fucked.

Athenian shock combat

It's baffling that despite so much going wrong during their operations (especially their early ones) they still managed to get shit done.

why the fuck didn't Hannibal roll over Rome directly after Cannae again?

> 66 000 men spread over 8 kilometers
That's not very dense at all, now is it?

WE.

Who would win? Panzerdivision with 11 000 soldiers, hundreds of tanks and artilery, or 48 soldiers without ammo?

>why the fuck didn't Hannibal roll over Rome directly after Cannae again?

Lack of siege equipment

Who is that?

That's 8 men per meter

The Battle of Alesia, no doubt.

Cavalry was late for battle. Main reason why Greeks were so aggressive was because they surprise Persians and their cavalry was away grazing horses and restring and they wanted to take advantage of that.

Explain.

Who would win?
>The entire city of Belgrade with a 10,000+ man garrison
or
>5 guys without ammunition, a broken radio, a hungover tourist/interpreter led by a man with balls the size of Berlin

The Battle of Inchon.

Hannibal had no fucking elephants in Italy

a few did manage to survive the crossing, but not really enough to act as a force multiplier in battle

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the soviets destroying the germans

Chancellorsville.

Somehow I feel like this guy somehow got to put points into his luck stat and persuasion stat on level with hitler's stats

it has more to do with yugoslavia been unprepared and unwilling for war
contrast that with the partisans winning against germans constantly

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Livy

t. Serb

Imagine how many people told their grandchildren about the time they killed like a twentieth of the Roman make population.

winning how? by retreating an getting decimated every enemy offensive?

No too many since Rome burned Carthage to the ground

Every time you get an occupying force to expend more and more resources and men to fight you is a net victory for a partisan group. Unless you are on course for literally being wiped out in the immediate future, time will always be on your side.

>winning how?

by employing advanced african simian tactics to achieve over 300 confirmed liberated territories

>What are some masterly military maneuvers of history?
It's not a master military maneuver but it certainly was effective. Kurt Meyer, a recon battalion commander in the Liebstandarte was tasked with taking the Klissura Pass in Albania. His battalion was pinned down by accurate fire and refused to move forward so Meyer started throwing grenades at his men to motivate them. They captured the pass and Meyer earned the Knight's Cross.

More than that. Rome was strongly garrisoned and had stout walls. It's on a river which makes cutting supplies trickier. Siege equipment of the day was at no particular advantage against defenses; assault is risky and the best option, persuading a faction inside to open the gates for you, is not an option in the case of Rome. Settling in to invest the city exposes Hannibals numerically few forces to the diseases that inevitably spring up during protracted sieges, and also forces him to stay in one spot where relief armies don't have to search for him and can force him to accept battle, or else break the siege.

He just didn't have the time for it. Hannibal's genius required battles in the open field and free mobility. Settling in to reduce the most heavily and fanatically defended city anywhere would have resulted in him being crushed by Roman weight of numbers, which would be easy to bring to bear. Endless legions to your rear, and a huge pissed of garrison ready to sally at your front. Circumvallation was not a practice yet known.

Hannibal's one big coup against a substantial city was at Capua, where the city was betrayed into his hands (after the shock of Cannae). This was not going to happen at Rome. This illustrates again what Hannibal well knew: only by beating the Romans in the field and discrediting them, and then detaching her allies, could he hope to over come her overwhelming advantage in manpower and materiel. As it turns out he was fighting the most stubborn people ever. Taking Rome was never in the cards and he knew it.

>yfw you can never protect, care-for and make love to Octavia of the Julii.

oh well....

He didn't have enough men or siege equipment. He sent his brother, Mago, to Carthage with all of the signet rings removed from the dead Roman equites at Cannae as proof of his massive victory. He asked and expected Carthage to send him men and equipment to take Rome but was told to fuck off.

yes, very much yes...Hannibal by Theodore Ayrault Dodge. Dodge was an American who went to military school in Prussia before returning home to fight in the Civil War. Went from private to colonel during the war and lost his legs at Gettysburg, so the dude know his shit in re warfare.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Ayrault_Dodge
amazon.com/Hannibal-History-Carthaginians-Detailed-Account-ebook/dp/B007H1UHYE

Romans had a weakness for falling into ambushes.

They wrote about them....like a whole lot.

He lost about 1/4 of his army at Cannae and the Romans still had a whole lot of legions.

that guy is Lt. I. Pirozhkov that destroyed Hunnic tank column in KV-1, that event is battle of Grain Elavator in Stalingrad tho

>Hey, guys, we like, totally have the numerical advantage here, so why don't we just charge headfirst at the Romans
>My lady, the Roman Legion was expressly designed to fight headon, we'll be slaughtered
>Ummm, sweetie, we have the bigger numbers

>that pic
w...we??

#neverthelessshepersisted

Why didn't she just lightspeed jump into the Romans?

Subutai conquering Hungary/Poland within 2 days of each other some 500 KM away.

About fifty years later.

Angry Alt-Latin Trolls sabotaged her Afro-Celtic Warp Engines

>Imagine how many people told their grandchildren about the time they killed like a twentieth of the Roman make population.

Hannibal didnt return to Carthage with the whole army. In fact only a small part of it made it back.

With a scouting party no less!

I dont think the later mongols would have succeeded but Subotai and Genghis would have wrecked all of Europe.

Except maybe Britain, islands being some form of magic spell against mongols.

I assume he means Carthage in general, and I assume few, since Carthage wasn't really keen on Hannibal's war in the first place. Considering, he got them completely ruined, I don't think many Carthaginians took much pride in anything Hannibal did

It also bears mentioning that taking Rome was never Hannibal's goal. His plan was to topple Rome's network of alliances so that the city reverted to being just one of a myriad italian city states. Carthage wanted hegemony over the peninsula, not an italian province.

Anything the early Mongols did. They were using pseudo-small squad tactics and fireteams before euros stopped shitting in the streets.

Did you mean "raiding, capturing some (but not all) of the strongholds, then leaving because they were unable to hold onto it"?

Sogdian Rock.

youtube.com/watch?v=QYAFoENOa94

Not sure what you're sucking on, but the mongols soundly defeated the Hungarians and the Polish killing most of their leadership. The Hungarian King Bela managed to run and hide for a year before the Mongols were recalled back.

>you will never rape Boudica, degrading her into nothing more than a vengeful widow as you claim her home for Rome, making her birth your children and form the Arthurian line from them.

Why even live.

Thanks user. Got anything about the Punic Wars at large?

Nice lines you got there, it would be shame if someone used... MORE LINES

it was unironically pure gay power
(see Sacred Band of Thebes)

>you will never have a gay lover who holds you close during the night and defends you in a phalanx during the day.

I'd prefer to live the Conan quote.
Pic fuckng related.

>at the battle of Tegyra a Theban soldier turned to the Band's commander and said they were trapped by the Spartans, which received the response that they were in fact trapped with the Sacred Band

>Bamboozled the mayor so hard he killed himself

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Not to mention the full on sprint the Greeks ran in full body armor. The Persians were mostly skirmishing and archery units so the Greeks wanted to run through their range as fast as they could to avoid casualties and catch the Persians with their pants down. Seeing greek heavy infantry running at you at full speed had to be a daunting sight.

They only run like 80 meters at max.

Not so much a stunning victory but in terms of manuvering like a motherfucker there really isnt any equal

Churchill saving Vienna