T-the Germans.....should have went around the V-v-volga.......and surrounded stalin....grad

fuck off

>Americans should have invaded the Soviets after the Berlin Blockade.

The Germans should have invaded England, not even a meme, they could have easily done it. Just looks at the vikings

This is an unnecessarily angry post. Maybe calm yourself a bit and take a Valium or two.

>Hitler gets obsessed with Stalingrad
>since only Germans are ubermensch only Germans can take Stalingrad
>Hitler removes division after division from the flanks of Stalingrad
>Romania complains, they won't be able to hold since their divisions are undermanned from the brutal battles from the year before
>they also have no anti tank guns and low morale since the government isn't supported by the population or the soldiers
>Hitler ignores all of this and removes the last german soldier from the flanks, Stalingrad shall be his!
>Soviets steamroll
Stop meming breh, you can't win here

>da germans shud inbabe england it wuld be achievable

Let's see if you get it :^)

The STuG line is the objectively correct choice and that's not disputable.
>tfw Brits made useless infantry tanks instead of assault guns
Well, at least they understood the importance of supporting their infantry.

How? Also you are fucking retarded for thinking that that's actually comparable, Britain had the strongest navy in the world and had air superiority after the battle of Britain.

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In terms of total war? Well they should have

I WAA ONRY PREBENBING POO BEE REBARBEB

Okay, I'll be straight up here. Germany should have rushed their army as fast as possible across Russian, minimizing engagements, ignore all Soviet cities or resources and link up with Japan. From there they should have made all their tanks and vehicles buoyant and then sail to Hawaii and assist Japan in the attack on Pearl Harbor.

That would have undeniably won them World War 2.

What if German did nothing after invading Poland. Would France and Britain have eventually done something?

Not possible. Every single country maxed out war production in 1944. The idea that Germany "delayed" mobilization compared to other WWII countries is only partially true. Pic related is aircraft, but you could look at almost any other metric.

Are you stupid? They should have rushed past the russians, ignore the japanese and attack Washington, killing the president. Then rush back to moscow killing Stalin.

It is a historical fact that Germany did not engage in total war production.

>At the time of Speer's accession to the office, the German economy, unlike the British one, was not fully geared for war production. Consumer goods were still being produced at nearly as high a level as during peacetime. No fewer than five "Supreme Authorities" had jurisdiction over armament production—one of which, the Ministry of Economic Affairs, had declared in November 1941 that conditions did not permit an increase in armament production. Few women were employed in the factories, which were running only one shift. One evening soon after his appointment, Speer went to visit a Berlin armament factory; he found no one on the premises.

Source: Fest, Joachim (1999), Speer: The Final Verdict

>From there they should have made all their tanks and vehicles buoyant and then sail to Hawaii and assist Japan in the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Noting that Speer entered office in early 1942

It would be quite hard to achieve, instead Germany should have gone around the Soviet Union: attack Spain, cross Gibraltar, rush Suez, Persia, Afganistan, India and China!

>At the time of Speer's accession to the office, the German economy, unlike the British one, was not fully geared for war production
Which is why Germany was more mobilized than Britain in 1941 - having lower consumer expenditures, a greater percentage of the workforce working on war orders, a larger proportion of women in industry, and diverting more of their GDP to their military overall?

Right, but Speer dramatically increased war production.

>USSR should have smashed the Western capitalists once and for all in Summer 1945

>be Germany
>liquidate the Jews
>incapable of dispensing with the consumer Jew

Never heard about this, that is really quite interesting. One would think that other than the Soviets (and only after 1941), the Nazis would be the most geared to a bitter, all-out total war.

What does that have to do with whether Germany had engaged in total war production by then?

Faggots all of you. The only real way for Germany to win the war was to invest all of their budget into propaganda tooled towards users of a Mongolian basket weaving site three quarters of a century into the future, lose the war, then have said basket weaving aficionados successfully stage a full scale Neo-Nazi world takeover.

Pic related, it's a comparison between Soviet and German war production during most of the war. As you can see, Soviet production peaks in 1942 and remains high for the rest of the war. Germany doesn't reach comparable numbers until 1944.

>www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/staff/mharrison/public/opk2000mobilisation.pdf

Link to the .pdf with the table.

Well you can see Britain certainly entered a war-footing with the shift in industrial workforce. By the same token I admit that Germany's numbers are very similar, suggesting they had both done so.

I don't have an answer to these numbers. All I can say is that every source I've read goes on about the German workforce being under-utilised. Certainly something to think on.

Not OP, but I've seen it, yes.

Do you really think they'd be sending the Romanians out at half-strength for the area they were supposed to cover if they actually had spare German manpower?

See pic related. They were one of the most mobilized economies in the conflict; their far bigger problem was mismanagement, not levels of mobilization.

You should read more of people like Tooze and less of Speer's lying.

I suppose that makes Speer's reorganisation an even larger factory

factor*

ha

Not really. It's more that you had continuing investment into armament production facilities throughout the war (most major powers did this), and they started to come online in a big way from 1942-1944; that's why you had so many people inside the Nazi regime saying they woudln't be ready for a total war until then. Speer just happened to be in charge when the factories finished up.

Throughout and before the war*

Really Japan should have attacked the USSR instead of China or the USA.

>the virgin UK
>the chad US

The German workforce early in the war had a serious manpower problem. These tables are from The Economics of World War II, pages 160-161. In the first one you can see the size of the overall workforce and the massive drop it sustained between 1939 and 1940 due to men being called up into the Wehrmacht; around 4.25 million were drafted by June 1940. In 1944, however, the workforce was actually larger than it was in 1940, despite the fact that more than 10.6 million men had been drafted up to that point. It could be argued that women took up the slack, but their numbers in the German workforce remained largely static throughout the war; their proportion only increased because of the massive amounts of men leaving. Germany continued to have a large workforce mostly by using forced and foreign labor, something that greatly intensified under Speer's reign. Post 1941, the citizens of the various Soviet republics, especially Ukraine, could be brought in to work in German factories and farms, and Red Army prisoners of war could also be put to work. A large increase in both gross numbers and percentages can be seen in this group, but the proportion is especially important - in 1943 and 1944, when the "armaments miracle" was fully underway, foreign and forced labor made up 26.6% and 29% of Germany's industrial workforce, when as late as 1942 it was only 13.9%. This isn't a coincidence - Speer managed to mitigate the manpower problem that plagued Germany early in the war through foreign labor made available, and that's part of the explanation in how armaments output was increased.

No, if Hitler hadn't attacked West, the frogs and bongs would have done what they did, nothing.