Be shitty rice delta

>be shitty rice delta
>resist Japs
>BTFO France
>BTFO Americans and coalition
>BFTO Laos
>BTFO Cambodia
>BTFO China

Literally in a row.

FEAR THE YELLOW WARRIOR

Vietnam has plot armor

discuss?

OP Guilds were a serious problem after the Decolonisation update, Israel and Vietnam being the main offenders

why didnt we just nuke vietnam?

>resist against attacker shipping troops and supplies with pre-modern technology
>BTFO an attacker who just freed themselves from 5 years of occupation and who needs to ship supplies and men halfway across the globe
>BTFO an attacker who has to ship men and supplies across the globe and has virtually no internal support for war
>BFTO a two-bit irrelevant shithole
>BTFO a two-bit irrelevant shithole
>BTFO an opponent who had already promised other world powers that they wouldn't go HAM on you

Impressive, yes, but not incredible.

beatnik hippies

Nukes aren't very useful against agrarian jungle gooks

I've seen such arguments used in every war at this point.

>they are far away
>their leaders are incompetent
>they have less people
>their weapons are outdated
>their tactics are outdated
>they have shitty uniforms
>they have less moral
>they're a literally who state
>they're no longer good
>they made a promise

They're all just excuses every war is fought by people who thought they would be the victors, and they thought incorrectly. If it was a case of a big power smacking around a small state then we can say it isn't impressive, but these examples aren't the case they were either on the same level or greater and they smacked them down. gg

Cold war rules

first to nuke loses

>They're all just excuses every war is fought by people who thought they would be the victors, and they thought incorrectly.

This is a completely irrelevant argument. Are you saying that logistical challenges are irrelevant to the outcome of war because... people think they will win? What are you even trying to say here? Of course insufficient logistics are a valid reason for losing a war, without it you can't prosecute and execute your plans.

Also,
>laos and cambodia
>equal to or greater than Vietnam

Pick one.
Also, I said it was impressive, just not incredible.

I'm saying that under that logic no war is truly incredible because they are all determined by these arguments.

Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam are all small ex-colonial indochina states so they stated in the same level Vietnam just got their shit together faster, hence "equal to"

these guys got ethnically hanned the fuck out. chinas south flank as nth korea its north, taiwan its east and tibet its wesst

>I'm saying that under that logic no war is truly incredible because they are all determined by these arguments.

You're right. That's kinda the point of studying history; so that you can explain how events, that seem incredible on the surface, actually transpired, and the reasons why they happened like they did.

>Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam are all small ex-colonial indochina states so they stated in the same level Vietnam just got their shit together faster, hence "equal to"

Vietnam was (and is) almost as large as both Cambodia and Laos put together, with roughly 3-4 times the population of them both combined. Laos is also landlocked while Cambodia has a coastline much shorter than Vietnam. This gives access to more resources and helps communication and transport. They were equal in origin (even though Vietnam gained independence from France much earlier...) but far from equal in any other metric. Vietnam was in a much better position than Laos or Cambodia, considering the huge population advantage, as well as their geography. They're essentially the big bully of the post-french Indochinese subcontinent and should have no trouble in defeating their neighbours.

if "first" means "everyone" then yes

Sounds pretty based to me. Why did we fight them again?

in this context it's basically synonymous

To be fair they have some of the most drfensible terrian in the world

Also dont forget they btfo china and the mongols numerous times

containing commies

literally the reason for all our wars back then

>BTFO China
And yet they were ruled by the Chinese for 1000 years

They're masters of their environment and
put up more of a fight than is worth it to anyone.

>Fund Pol Pot
>Heh nothing's personal Victor Charlie

Two words: Jungle warfare

>we
>>>r/history
>>>r/politics

>BTFO China
If you're referring conflict during 1979~1990, then no, they didn't actually. I always wonder why people keep saying this, Is it brainwash or propaganda?

Both sides claimed victory in the conflict of 1979(and it's true that PLA wasn't drove away by Vietcong, they actually achieved their tactical goals and occupied some cities in northern Vietnam, then withdraw by themselves after they claimed victory.)

As for small border skirmishes during 1980s, Vietcong still didn't get the upper-hand, PLA kept holding several choke points in Vietnamese territory until they gave them back in 1992 willingly.

They got ruled by the French for a century and ruled by the Chinese for a fucking millenia. Hell, a lot of them don't even look like Southeast Asians anymore because they have so much Chinese DNA.