What was the first nation state?

what was the first nation state?

The city states of Mesopotamia

>northern Italy and parts of Balkans
>humid subtropical
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> western spain mediterranean
> eastern spain cold semi-arid

There wouldnt be a "first", a nation-state is an ideal that cannot be achieved and its definition is always changing. Generally considered to be a concept that really emerged alongside colonialism and the distinction between colonial and colonizing population in the 19th century, alongside advances in communication and transportation technology as well as an increasingly professional bureaucracy allowed for stricter understandings of borders, ethnicities, languages, geography. Basically with the onset of serious sciences anything that was historically associated with a people or tribe or fraternity had been put under the lens of the sciences as they attempted to define such things as nations and states in a way that tried to find the truth in the ideal (and, perhaps arguably but I think it's pretty clear, failed to do so).

Where it's headed now is clearly up for debate but neoliberalism certainly seems to be deteriorating the importance of the nation-state and replacing its historical role in management of trade and land with international trade regulations etc., which is obviously a disaster for efficient and humane allocation of both necessary resources and human populations themselves which are increasingly turned to displaced migrants, a conveniantly fluid labor force for a neoliberalism that seeks a fluid global trade. Then theres the populist movements like Trump, Putin, Duturte, Le Pen etc that are trying to preserve the nation-state, but seem to think they can return to the conditions of the early 20th century nation-state or even finally realize the ideal of the ethno-state. But this ignores the fact that neoliberalism itself grew out of those older nation-states, it didnt come from nowhere as a competitor, it is the result of the same economic processes that made nation-states and the mercantile colonial empires before them the most viable system. So whatever displaces neoliberalism likely wont be a reversion but an adaption.

>calling Portugal western Spain
Stop

>what was the first nation state?

China

t. never been outta Littlerock

wouldn´t those be sovereignities instead of national states?

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Rome was the first unified nation.

>The 9 States of Hua.
>All Under Heaven.
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The Empire never saw itself as a nation state either. The existence of Chinese script (Logographic symbols to divorce it from Phonetic language) attests to this.

The idea of outer/inner subjects also furthers this.

Israel unironically maybe

t. doesn't know what subtropical means

Egypt.

Revolutionary France

France after the Revolution

the democracy of athens
or the republic of rome

is a national army the prerequisite for a nation state though?

Nope.

Extending the idea of citizenship to the entire country in addition to forcibly acculturating/killing cultural minorities to fit a "main identity" is though.

Assuming you don't count ethno CITYstates like the Athenian and Spartan Empires, then probably Navarre.

City-states grew out of tribal relations not ethnicity.

Don't let the name fool you. Humid subtropical is pretty much the same as continental but with a smaller variance. The yearly mean in my town is 13°C, that's basically New York climate but with slightly warmer winters and slightly cooler summers.

4th post best post. There has never been a pure nation state, just states that more or less closely resemble such a concept. As to the one that has got closest so far, well it has to be the Nazis.

Sure but so did national identity.

National identity came from shared language and custom.

And those came from ...?