Why do totalitarian dictatorships go through so many intelligence agencies?

Why do totalitarian dictatorships go through so many intelligence agencies?
Is it just about the internal power struggle?

Ask Americans.

I don't get it

GPU
>upgrade
NKVD
>go back
MGB
>I said go back
KGB

We just have a bunch of very insular intelligence agencies so we can protect intelligence through compartmentalization.

It’s different than making and then getting rid of them every 5 years.

>asks why totalitarian states go through intelligence agencies
>shows a communist state instead
communism is naturally a subversive ideology

>a communist state
The Soviet Union has NEVER called itself a communist state
And it was very much a totalitarian dictatorship

Power goes with permanence
Impermanence is impotence
Rotation is castration

You don't want some shit-muncher secret policeman getting ideas

You need to look up the definition of totalitarianism again. There is specific emphasis on the state. And the soviet union was a communist state.

>And the soviet union was a communist state.
retard, stop responding to my threads and posts

is this a meme? Is this trolling? Is this /leftypol/? Am I missing a joke?

when too many people know the name of your agency and you hang a few lowlifes "we handled corruption at secret agency A, thanks to an investigation done by secret agency B"

if you actually do a research you'll find out that USSR never claimed that they managed to build communism

now lets list USA intelligence agencies

that does not mean that that wasn't their goal.

Which is irrelevant to the discussion

Intellegence agincies are a bitch because they only work with complete secrecy but this often means the government they work for isnt fully sure what there doing or how much power they really have. This can get problematic for the reigme, regardless of how totalitarian it is, as they start to worry wheter the agency is under there control or the othrr way around. A great example of this is the cia seriously misleading lbj and essentially causing the vietnam war. Another would be that several heads of state, inckuding bush sr and putin, have been important figures in intellegence agencies.

The thing in dictatorships is that the risk of a coup from an intellegence agency is dramatically higher because dictators cant depend on the masses to uphold their right to tule the same say most democracies can. Thus to keep their agencies under control dictators set up other agencies to spy on their main intellegence agency, but this presents the same problem so other agencies are set up to spy on these ones, and so on and so forth. This is even sort of happening in the usa with the CIA, NSA, etc, etc

Because in order to make shitty ideology like communism without collapsing in the first few weeks "work" you have to have a secret police to root out any signs of capitalism, bourgeoisie thinking, etc. Communism requires terror. Marx believed in it, he was vague about it and he was vague about the abolition of the state, but either way a system like communism requires a totalitarian state and various intelligent agencies to root out enemies of the state.
The same goes for Nazi Germany as well, not everyone is on board with the ideology so in a totalitarian state in order to mold the minds of the people and become part of the state, they need a Gestapo and various informants and spies in order to punish and root out those deemed undesirable in society.

Based Humphrey.

So which one is it

The first one.

How's high school buddy

communist state is an inherent contradiction by definition. socialist state is the phrase you're looking for.

The NKVD was abnormally brutal even by communist standards.

still better than cambodia

But it's not like those in the OP existed at the same time?
So how would that work?

what about Cheka