Did Hungarians play a pivotal role in defending Europe from Turks and Eastern Hordes?

Hungarians were beaten, then adopted christianity and feudalism.

Hungarians today are different from Hungarians in 900 AD. I mean biologically they're separate people.

Happens after invasions by slavs and Turks muddying your genetics

>Rape local Slavs
>Help! Help! They're muddying our genetics!

>Slavs
Yes.
>Turks
Nope.

Their Y-DNA profile is completely Slavic. Do you think it was Hungarian women raping Slavic men?

I'm saying it makes little sense to blame the Slavic invasion for changing the Hungarian gene pool when the Slavic migrations precede the Magyar by like four centuries.

No, you were not saying that. You were saying they raped local Slavs.

Which is a much likelier hypothesis than time travel.

It's not likely at all you retard because genetics directly refute that.

Yes, but it doesn't involve time travel.

I never said anything about time travel. Are you a schizo?

Well how else are you going to blame Slavic incursions into Hungary during the 6th century for the demographic changes among Magyars during the 10th.

islam is still abrahamic tho

they're descendants of the Huns, you tell me

No they aren't.

> They are the eastern hordes

...but so were the Slavs.

Both the Slavs and the Hungarians(Ugric tribes) come from roughly the same neigborhood of eastern Europe.

Slavs came from Belarus, Magyars came from the Urals via the Black Sea coast. That's not even remotely a same neighborhood.

> Magyars came from the Urals

No, their homeland was around modern day Moscow.

Ugric tribes there were a majority as late as the 16th century.

That's still pretty far from the Slavic urheimat.

Are muslim invaders the only thing eastern euros agree on something unanimously?

I wish I could say yes, but then you get retarded Bosniaks/Analbanians who don't realise their ancestors converted for the sole purpose of sucking Ottoman cock a little easier. So now all their offspring actually believe that their ancestors converted due to sincere belief.

>Did Hungarians play a pivotal role in anything
No

>their ancestors converted for the sole purpose of sucking Ottoman cock a little easier.

So did serbs and croats. Just replace ottomans with Byzantines/venetians

>people

>people group
>people
kek'd

>its been a century
>euros are still butthurt about the ottoman empire

What's your problem?

Hungarians are literally the result of an Eastern Horde penetration into Europe, but they did play a role (not a pivotal one) in defending europe from the ottomans

Actually, it is no coincidence that the only people that converted were the catholic ones. Modern Bosniaks used to be Bogumiles and modern albanians catholics, both of which were not allowed at all to practice their religions. Meanwhile the orthodox people actually had a lot of privileges, and they factually did better under ottoman rule, then they did in their own countries.

This meme never held any water with me

Its not a meme. Orthodox church was very powerful within the ottoman empire, meanwhile catholics had no lobby whatsoever.

>PEOPLE

>Orthodox church was very powerful within the ottoman empire
You realise that means jack shit, right? The Ottomans used the Church, this is a well known fact btw, to control their majority Orthodox population in the Balkans. That doesn't mean the people got it better, there was still poverty, no development, regular uprisings and subversions as well as Janissaries. Stop trying to victimize your self. Oh and the Catholics in Albania were always a minority, it was mostly Orthodox who converted.

All christians had the same rights though in the empire.
Only difference was that many orthodox christians were also wealthy merchants.

Every eastern european country labels themselves as the turkstoppers, but the prize goes to Russians, who gave ottomans most of their defeats, with a second Austrians

yeah kudos to all the serbs and albanians and the vlachs and the greeks and the hungarians, but they don't get prizes, russia and austria does

*bombs internally*

Thats actually not true. To this day the muslims are what used to be the catholics in northern albania, while orthodox southern albania remained christian the whole time. Also, all modern catholics are people who re-converted during the 19th and 20th century. In the 16th century, there was not a single registered catholic community in all albanian lands, while there were still plenty orthodox ones.

>people
lmfao

>people group

>serbians
>people

Hungarians ARE Turks and Eastern hordes

Finnic != Ugric

Everything that comes from Balkans is barely human if human at all.

>What's your problem?

The western countries are welcoming them in this time.

>Source: your ass
Albania used to be majority Orthodox

>ITT albozergs and Rvats being eternally butthurt as per usual