Is this the greatest underdog story?

Is this the greatest underdog story?

Weren't the Sassanids and Eastern Romans already exhausted to death because of the wars with each other + Justinian plague?

>the Sassanids and Eastern Romans already exhausted to death

Nice meme

yup
however if the mongols hadn't lost their hegemony and were still relevant they certainly would be
>a bunch of alienated steppe niggers eating around 75% of the asian continent is far more of an achievement rather some sandniggers who had been interacting with their neighbours eating up almost all the middle east and north africa and parts of mediterannian europe

Well, care to elaborate, then?

Yeah but it's still amazing at what the Arabs (or more specifically Khalid) did. It's the equivalent of a massive earthquake hitting America tomorrow and Alabama hillbillies taking over the White House.

> Is this the greatest underdog story?

It was an underdog story until they conquered most of Arabia, it stopped being an underdog story before they even attacked Persia.

Alexander was more impressive desu

Yes. Islam is the protagonist of history.

Kind of. I mean, their practices were obscene. We should all agree if they actually followed the QURAN and not the sadistic Hadiths that followed, then maybe they might actually have been benevolent. And some definitely were. But then in other ways it led to what you see today in ISIS. Absolute evil.

But the idea of the government being in divine authority, yes this is preferable. Essentially because God is real, so any sort of government which embraces this instead of conjecture regarding evolution, is a divine good.

Yes being housed as guests and backstabbing your host when you're strong enough is considered being an underdog

>Both ERE and the Sassanids were able to maintain themselves and administrate their wide empires for at least 400 years

>The Arab Caliphate disintegrates to various states within 200 years

You don't need to win to be a winner, user.

>Steppeniggers.
>Who had the military advantage of being entirely mounted
>"Underdog."
Consider the fact that Arabs pulled off the conquest of Persia by simply being light infantry.

It's far easier to destroy something than create it. Just ask Alexander, or Genghis Khan.

>a massive earthquake hitting America tomorrow and Alabama hillbillies taking over the White House
a man can dream...

that ''muslim leader'' looks surprisingly european equipment wise
>straight sword
>chainmail
>norman helmet

He probably won't because you're right. Islam literally got lucky with timing

>Implying the arabians were underdogs.

The arabs were pretty much the germanic peoples of the middle east. They made up a large fraction of both the roman and sassanid empires' military forces.

>we dont need to win to be a winner

>Nice meme

user. The pair of them had just finished a three decades long war that, up to that point, was probably the biggest conflict outside of China in history. It must have felt like a world war at the time. Never before had the Persians and Romans fought so brutally against one another. It was the first time in 700 years that Egypt had been conquered by a foreign power and Constantinople itself was sieged.

>ywn live in the timeline where the ERE and Sassanids got their shit together and stopped the goat fuckers in their tracks

It was normal during the early Crusades to not be able to tell a soldier from either side apart until they got really close.

Arabs got SUPER lucky. Like really. If they had invaded 100 years earlier they would have faced a Sasanian Empire at the height of its power and probably been utterly destroyed. Instead they fought a Sasanian Empire that had just lost a devastating war to the Byzantine Empire that saw some of its wealthiest lands and cities razed. The continuous fighting between the Byzantines and Sasanians had left both empires essentially bankrupt and exhausted. This is what the Arabs encountered as they rode north into Persia. They found depleted garrisons where only the dregs of the army were left, they found half-destroyed cities with exhausted, war-weary people that had no will to resist.

The Sasanian Empire was handed to them on a platter. There is perhaps no better claim for Allah's existence than the incredibly fortuitous timing with which the Arabs launched their invasion.

Both empires were convinced the other one was the only real threat to their existence. They could never have imagined a fucking tidal wave of goatfucking nomads riding out of the desert.

>tfw none of it would've happened if Phocas wasn't such a douche.

me on the right

I'd prefer to be ruled by Blacks from the ghetto than Alabama hillbillies. I've seen Deliverance.

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The Romans and Persians were just nearby.

I mean, for example: that Tribal Leader's sword is Persian as fuck (two lugs on the sheath to loop the baldrick on)

>There is perhaps no better claim for Allah's existence than the incredibly fortuitous timing with which the Arabs launched their invasion.
Because it's totally a miracle that returning mercenaries would tell tales of their former employer's exploitable weakness.

Where does this meme come from?

Are you saying that a united Germania wouldn't be capable of doing the same to the WRE in the century of its collapse?
'Cause that's what the arabians were to the middle east.

Why is that weird? The arab tribes served in both the roman and sassanid militaries before the arabian conquest.

mad religious fervor is a great way to hold back insurrections

The arabs were BRILLIANT during the first wave of their conquest.
Post moments of brilliance of the first muslim wave, for I have very bad memory and remember none. Something about a tribe of Jews of dubious allegiance...

>Byzantines and Sassanids
>European

>straight sword
Most middle-eastern swords were straight until the Mongols/Turkic peoples introduced curved blades to the area.
>chainmail
Just about everywhere between Vietnam and Moortugal made extensive use of chainmail.
>norman helmet
While the conical shape isn't exclusive to Europe by any means, the fact it does have that mail face covering does make it seem as though it's drawing more than a little inspiration from the Normies.

that would be asturias