>no sex drive >sleep 8+ hours every night but still tired during the day >lethargic >probable low test >yet lifting heavier than ever and becoming much better at HIIT routine
What gives? I thought lifting and HIIT were meant to increase test, not decrease it.
I'm on day 4 of no fap and whereas before I'd be desperate to fuck everything that moves, atm I'm barely thinking about sex.
So go get your test levels checked. Are you eating enough senpai? It can be any number of things causing low T. Intense training and inadequate calories will do it.
Camden Hill
Stop overtraining.
Aiden Taylor
I'm eating around 500-700 below maintenance every day, could that be it?
Isn't that just a meme?
Jace Walker
When i was in the best shape of my life i felt awful all the time. Reduce your calorie deficit or go maintenance for a week or two and slowly decrease cals from there. Overdoing it on hard HIIT and lifting will fry your CNS real quick.
Jonathan Barnes
Same, but somehow this shit only started a year ago. Before that I was constantly horny (literally 24/7) and generally way more energetic. What the shit is this?
Cameron Sanchez
Check your fat intake. I had a similar thing when cutting around -1000 kcal a day.
Juan Mitchell
>When i was in the best shape of my life i felt awful all the time.
ffs why do I even lift. I felt much hornier when i took lifting less seriously.
Daniel Gutierrez
OP here, forgot to mention that my erections are also not as strong. Atm im only getting properly hard just before I cum, before it was like a rock after a couple of strokes.
Blake James
overtraining causing low T probably is a meme (although idk for sure desu), but it sure as sunshine can mimic the effects, especially if you're doing it at a deficit. eat more for a few days and see if that helps. for good measure, keep your current sleep cycle and cut out caffeine. if you're still hella tired during the day in a week, probably worry about it, but for now it sounds like malnutrition
Daniel Gomez
Maybe you like dicks?
Nathan Brooks
>cut out caffeine
Why though? This is kinda hard because I need my morning and mid-afternoon cups of coffee. I'm actually not sure how I would function at work without them.
Brayden Nguyen
This. If I cut hard and don't eat enough fat, I feel low test. But when I bulk and eat lots of fat I get narbs like I'm 14 again
Dominic Bennett
I just realised I'm getting fuck all fat intake since all im eating at the moment is lean chicken. I'll buy a whole pack of smoked salmon tomorrow, a few mixed nuts, eat them and see if it gets me horny.
Grayson Hill
Cortisol, caffeine creates it, not good when you're already stressing your system way too much. You could just drink chamomile tea before bed though, much better IMO. I need coffee myself now that it's dark for all but two hours of the day.
See why you're not hard for that girl you posted though, unappealing specimen.
Wyatt Carter
It'll take a few days for recovery. Eat eggs, hormones synthesis needs dietary cholesterol
Tyler Adams
I go through the same thing too after working out hard for the day. There's some byproduct of burning ATP that makes you sleepy. To avoid that, I'd lift for an hour in the morning and then go about my day. If I do heavy lifting for longer than that I end up sleeping a lot.
Kevin Flores
probably accumulated fatigue from your workouts
Thomas Allen
This. I had the same symptoms and then started looking at hairy men smashing eachothers buttholes. Since I figured out that it was just that I like dicks I have never been hornier, I've dropped 4% bf without changing diet and I've added 200lbs to my total.
Cameron Rogers
Wtf I like benis now
Hudson Price
Probably this
Also overtraining is just a meme for most people because they'll never reach that state. The proper word is overreaching. Overtraining would be something like being in an overreaching state for several months.
Overreaching can cause low T but so does not getting a good nights sleep so it doesn't matter really. All your symptoms could be a consequence of overreaching along with inflammating, reduced appetite, decreased training motivation, increased heartbeat etc...
TLDR; take a weeklong deload and enjoy the gains
Jayden Watson
>I'm on day 4 of no fap
I found your problem.
Evan Cox
This is what you get when you know nothing of diet and dont eat enough fat/ Too low calories. You then blame it on overtraining upp your fat intake and stop eating only chicken broccoli brown rice you spas
Logan Harris
What is that pic? It looks disgusting.
Isaac Gonzalez
>nofap >no test drive
literal no fap cuckolds castrating themselves
Thomas King
Do a cycle of test and see what happens
Brandon Taylor
Overreaching doesn't mean what you think it means. The proper word is actually overtraining.
Ryder Howard
It's almost like no fap is a meme...
Alexander Bailey
Day #7 no wanking for me. Don't really care. Drinking craft brews and playing HALO 5.
>Soon I'll Be 50 Years Old.
Cameron Bell
This, desu.
I find that I cycle my lifting.
>Go ham for a few weeks training hard AF (extra sets, reps, 2 hours + of training every night) >Do this until feel like utter shit and gains slow >Only do maintenance for my lifts (if I hit a new 1rm, 5rm, etc I lift at the adjusted level and cut workouts short) >Focus on extra sleep for a week >Feels like gains are being sealed in >Repeat
Hudson Jackson
You could potentially be..., DUN DUN DUN, Overtraining. It's not a myth, particularly for natural 'athletes'. You could just be going too hard too often with not enough time to recover. How many days a week do you train? From the sounds of it everyday? give yourself one or two restdays a week and see how you feel? Then the days when you do actually workout you'll feel better anyways.
Anthony Davis
F.L.A.T.L.I.N.E. L. A. T. L. I. N. E.
Liam Walker
You're overtrained and underfed stupid.
Jace Peterson
>I'm eating around 500-700 below maintenance every day, could that be it?
Obviously you fucktard, why even post on here?
HURRR DURR TRIAN REALALSALLY HARD BUTTT DUNNT EAT ENUFF 2 MAINTAAAIN BUT OOOOO I FEEL TIREED I WUNDER WHYYYYYYY
>>pic related >There's barely even a quiver from my dick.
Yeah no shit, that boring shit doesnt attract you when you start getting high test production
try this picture instead
Dylan Watson
>>A series of enzymatic steps in the testis lead to the conversion of cholesterol to the male sex steroid hormones, testosterone and 5α-dihydrotestosterone. karger.com/Article/Abstract/182546
>He fell for the really low bf% as a natty is healthy meme Lol
Ethan Cooper
The body can produce its own cholesterol
Ethan Phillips
Day #7 no fap for me. Had many beers yesterday, a few beers today. Don't care anymore about wild booty action. All the hotties are 1/2 my age. I just want to get my squat back to 405, after being sick in November. No women for nearly 4 years now; and I don't care. Work, lifting, eating, snoozing, Halo, SkYrim.
>it's what I do.
Grayson Sanchez
yeah what is that nasty shit user
Ryder Hall
>Halo, SkYrim. You could at least get some good taste gains and stop playing shit tier vidya like these.
Josiah Green
Go away, /g/.
Bentley Perry
>Isn't that just a meme? You think when you subject your body to an infinite amount of physical stress, absolutely nothing will possibly happen?
Ethan Kelly
I also play HALO 5, Dragon Age II, and wish Portal 1 would arrive for Xbone.
I don't like COD, or B-field, or zombie stuff.
>I cry when I hear certain songs.
Chase Kelly
>I'm eating around 500-700 below maintenance every day, could that be it? Obviously, you fucking moron
Adrian Taylor
also on day 4 of nofap OP. Stick with it, studies have shown test levels will flatline and then spike around the 7 day mark and stay at that higher level
Easton Peterson
shit, i know what u mean.
Easton Nelson
Magnesium + b6 tablets. 350mg a day. Don't take more than 500mg!
Willing to bet you're deficient, especially if you're a coffee drinker.
Will probably help your gains as well Tbh.
Michael Davis
>/g/ >gaming
Jayden Collins
Sounds like magnesium deficiency indeed. If OP starts supplementing magnesium and the sex drive issue persists, it could also be zinc.
>Other signs of zinc deficiency are reduced fertility, rashes on the skin, spots on fingernails, sleep disturbance, loss of sex drive, loss of taste or smell, and in some cases mild anemia.
If this doesnt help you go to a doctor. Don't ask /adv/ from this gutter senpai.
Adrian Long
probably the defecit. especially if you're eating very low carbs or fats, theyre both important for test production
Benjamin Torres
so OP I'm in a similar situation, I actually have strong sex drive drive by myself however I rarely get erections in public I feel little aroused even when kissing girls it *usually* goes fine when I get it down with a girl, but I had many occasions of getting "bored down", specially with my ltr ex-gf
so did anything good come out of the thread? a tl;dr?
Nicholas Martin
working out causes a temporary hormonal inbalance, this is where recovery comes in. stress is like a big jug of water, and recovery is how quickly this jug empties out. if the jug fills up quicker than the recovery manages to empty the water, the jug obviously overflows, i.e. you get overtrained.
when the body can't recover, you're in a state of constant hormonal imbalance basically, which causes the issues you mentioned.
if you eat at a deficit, your recovering abilities will be worse, obviously.
the better your recovery, the harder it is to overtrain, but it's pretty easy if your diet & sleep sucks
Kayden Turner
you just describe exactly the analogy made in a bit unrelated question but how does omega3/fish oil fare?
Gavin Gutierrez
i think thrall got it from a 3dmj video, that's where i saw it first
Matthew Rogers
>nofap >beers
And you wonder why your dick doesn't work?
Brody Clark
potassium and thyroid
fix them
Logan Hughes
This is me Haven't banged the wife in almost 18 months. Put on weight (fat) at the drop.of a hat even though I've been lifting for 14 months I look like a fucking kid. I've booked to see the doc next week to test my T level.
Ryder Ward
I image searched, turned out it's some vietnamese Honeycomb Cake.
Brayden Johnson
The body is alot more complicated than "No sex drive, lethargy.. must be low T"
Juan Torres
Yeah, but it's fit. These retards are all about finding reasons too do steroids or some kind of gear or hammering their head into a wall till they get the answer.
The op only has to ease back and workout only once a week for a month or take a two week break then start again, eat at maintenance or slightly above for a while, rest and de stress. No, that takes too much time and will apparently fuck them out of their non-existant gains.
Nathan Gomez
YOU ARE AT A DEFECIT. CASE CLOSED YOU TARD.
Dylan Bailey
Not everything is because of test jesus christ. You probably have cancer.
William Martin
>haven't banged my wife in 18 months.
Someone else is then lol
Jonathan Long
Okay some questions:
What does your poop look like usually (see chart) How often do you eat fish? How often do you eat fruit? Do you get tired after eating, or just in general?
Julian Ramirez
forgot chart
Mason Butler
Get checked for anemia too
Grayson Rivera
so whats important to take note from the chart, I get that totally liquid diarrhea, type 1 and 3 indicate good amount of fiber and surplus in eating type 4-6 may indicate excess fats/oils eaten?
regularly I often have one type 6 or 7 in the morning and then a solid 3 once in a while or when I eat a lot
Jordan King
I've been studying and playing wow my whole life, no sex drive here and lifting strong