I can't link here but if you go to faceberg and search for Stalingrad Battle Data there is a clip from German anti-tank crews from inside the pocket.
They sound just about ready to die and exhausted.. Those Russians really did a number on them, fuck it sounds so strange actually hearing people who were there.
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There it is, just put that infront of faceberg
>"Dead men no longer have interest in military history."
-Paulus
Fuck Stalingrad was morbid
Voices from Stalingrad...
A few years ago was found a fragment of magnetic tape recorded by German 6th Army, that had been lying in the ground near Stalingrad for 70 years. Nobody believed that this petrified record could be restored. Still a Russian expert team led by Yuri Metyolkin gave it a try, knowing that but there was no room for mistake given the state of the tape. The experience was really unique. Despite the extreme difficulties, a significant portion of the 20-minute tape (about a quarter) could be restored.
It looks like an interview with a German anti-tank battalion officer. Audio file attached.
Fragmentary translation:
"nur wenn ein genaues Ziel habt … abgedrungene Panzer … Verwundete wurden zurueck abgeschickt mit der Protze"
[only if you have a precise target ... strong tank forces ... wounded were sent back with the able]
"Nachdem die Stellung ausgebaut… Befehl zum Kampfstellungswechsel. Division greift an… Na ging es los"
[After expanding the position ... command to change battle position. The Division attacks ... Well, it began]
01:43
"…Dorf war wieder unser Zug … Leutnant … geht dorthin… Links angelegente 14. Kompanie …"
[... our section took back the village again ... Lieutenant ... goes there ... Left-wing 14th Company ...]
03:06
"…Vier Stueck – T-34…"
[... Four machines ... T-34 ...]
03:27
…14 Kompanie… Panzer Alarm…
[14th Company ... Tank alert]
03:36
"600 Meter weg… schiess klar … allerdings … getroffen ohne Wirkung"
[Line of fire 600 meters away ... shoot clear ... but ... hit without effect]
"Den Panzer denen nachste Ziele … und die Bedienung in voller Deckung und uberhaupt in Beschuetzung"
[The tanks, which next targets ... and the sections took full cover and are well protected]
"Nun diese fahren noch 300 Meter fern und wir erfahren Befehl mit neue Munition Schuss – Panzer-Granate 40 Fuer oeffnen, eh – Schuss auf Schuss, jede Schuss – ein Treffer, alles in die Luft!"
[Now they have driven another 300 meters, and we were instructed to fire using new ammunition shells - antitank shells 40 - shot after shot, every shot is a hit, everything is thrown in the air!]
"... Drei-Sieben und Fuenf ..."
[... Three-Seven and Five ...]
The latter is probably an answer about calibre.
It's difficult to determine the date of this record. Given that it was found in the sector of Gumrak, we can only assume that it deals with defensive battles in the cauldron, since 6th Army HQ was moved to this area only once the German army was encircled.
More details at lektorium.su
I like listening to old German radio chatter like this... anyone else got some?
Thank you for that! Saving
>A few years ago was found a fragment of magnetic tape recorded by German 6th Army, that had been lying in the ground near Stalingrad for 70 years. Nobody believed that this petrified record could be restored. Still a Russian expert team led by Yuri Metyolkin gave it a try, knowing that but there was no room for mistake given the state of the tape. The experience was really unique. Despite the extreme difficulties, a significant portion of the 20-minute tape (about a quarter) could be restored.
This is incredible, thanks for sharing OP. I wonder how many of these types of tapes might exist. It sounds like an after action report/interview of sorts, how common was this type of recording in the Wehrmacht?
Damn, wonder if anyone involved on both sides of the engagement discussed survived to the end of the war.
>dat Pfälzisch
that's not pfälzisch, sounds more like schwäbisch
t. Pfälzer
German POWs from Stalingrad...didn't really survive their internment in large numbers. School field-trip numbers, but not large ones.
This really is a great find
>3am
>panzer alarm
>mfw
>faceberg
It's a meme you dip
Settle down, buckaroo. No need to hop to the offence of a joke. Do you expect pats on the back for your efforts?
Probably not. Of the entire multi-million 6th Army that surrendered in Stalingrad only 5,000 ever returned to Germany. The rest we can only assume died in the frozen wastes of the Gulag Archipelago...
isn't it funny how such enthusiasm at the beginning led to such dread at the end?
Soviets couldn't be beaten militarily no matter, should have tried to outwit them politically, dumb nazis
>wahhh i come on 4chen and hate memes
Also if you post on Veeky Forums you should already know it's full of /pol/ types. Stop whining over everything.
Neat, more like this?
not definitely not schwäbisch
could be badisch
Yeah it's probably middle-Alemannic, I'd say somewhere north of Freiburg and south of Baden-Baden.
>>Soviets couldn't be beaten militarily
Yeah they could have been beaten militarily. It's just that they couldn't have been beaten by a country that was at war with the two other major powers of the era at the same time.
Where on that website you gave are the "More details" you promised?
Out of ~90k-100k Axis soldiers who surrendered at the end of the Battle of Stalingrad, ~40k-50k died on the trip to Siberia (remember; the 6th Army and other Axis units, Romanians being a key group, were near starved by Feb. 1943, and were near incapable of crossing the frozen Steppe) From the remaining troops, roughly between 5k-6k returned to Germany in the 1950s.
In fact, only ~250k Axis soldiers were surrounded at the end of Op. Uranus. Not several million. So by ~2 months after the encirclement, ~150k Axis soldiers had died; many from starvation, disease, weather, and, of course, Soviet action.
They sound completely normal to me. Nothing particularly depressing.
Not sure if it counts, but here's a pilot being fired at in the 90s Yugoslav wars.
Not really. The Soviets still had major problems with their military at the time. Key issues are largely connected to logistical problems on the Stalingrad front; for instance, from Nov-mid Dec 1942 they were pretty much unable to bring supplies over the Volga due to it not being completely frozen. Ice floes would shred many ships that would try to cross, and it wasn't worth attempting to navigate the ice in order to supply the 62nd and 64th Armies.
However, the Germans weren't short of issues either; Hitler stuck his nose into everything and basically demanded absolute control over everyone and their actions. To further enhance this issue, Paulus was largely indecisive in many of his actions, and the entire German army at Stalingrad failed to recognize that Op. Uranus was attempting a complete encirclement; they largely assumed that the USSR was just trying to cut off the railway (the main method of supplying German soldiers). Furthermore, (while this is a case of hindsight 20/20), his supply dumps were in inconvenient locations, not just for the various PzD in the city itself, but for those outside the city; they were in bad locations for the possibility of a Soviet attack on the flanks, as well as many of them being in the paths of Soviet Tank Armies that enacted Op. Uranus
TLDR; both armies were clusterfucks of logistical issues and bad decision in late-1942 early 1943.
I think its because this was recorded in the pocket. 100% chance they froze
your hindsight is 20/20 user