Thoughts on PMO? NoPorn of full NoFap?

stay strong

This desu.
That's why I used to only fap on fridays.
I'm doing nofap now though, just to see if it'll benefit me.
Going for 90 days.

If chronic masturbator: no porn and limited nofap until you're back to a semblance of normality, then stick to 1-2 faps per week..

If non-chronic but regular: no porn&keep to 1-2 faps per week.

Why is this so hard to figure out folks?

I've never made it past 50. I'm starting to think it's fucking impossible but I do need to work on my willpower

I've been trying to stay clean but I keep relapsing on youtube. Porn is the main problem. It releases all your dopamine. I noticed when I went a while without porn, life seemed more enjoyable.

>youtube

do you know how much fap material is on youtube?

>webcam video from
seriously you either do it or don't. theres no inbetween.

I just searched that, gross. Borderline CP on youtube

I stopped porn about a week ago. Only masturbate once or twice a week now and it's quick and fun. So much fucking time wasted in my life jacking off to porn.

Not masturbating when you have a steady gf or wife is understandable. If you are single, it's really not that big of a deal. The best thing is to just stay away from porn.

Most of them seem to be screamers

don't let my thread die

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I've been clean 3 weeks, no porn, no masturbation... my skin is clearer, i feel like i have more energy and motivation to do shit, i'm more comfortable around women too since i'm not picturing them in a role of the latest porno ive seen...

try it first, if you're man enough to stick with it.

good luck.

you spend sexual energy when you cum which otherwise could have been used by your body for other, more beneficial purposes.. mystics call the energy chi or qi

>without porn, life seemed more enjoyable.
this.

is that just hardcore? or all variants?

>vanilla
>voyeur
>femdom
>sissy/trap
>trans/shemale
>crossdressing/cuck porn

>>watching an old hairdy dude fuck another dude who is dressed as a female.

Its a rabbit whole bro. Just stear clear.

Whenever I go more than a week without fapping, I invariably have a wet dream.

I mean is jerking it to a naked biological woman not fucking anyone, ok?

her face and body look like they're made of plastic

that's not the same of relapsing. wet dreams are fine

If its a girl you know who sent you pics and you sent her pics thats fine.
If you loaded them up from the internet and keep scrolling through more and more qts so you can get off. Thats a problem.

>porn

thanks for the clarification

>wet dreams are fine
I don't enjoy getting up in the middle of the night to change underwear.

>>porn on the other hand will fuck your brain and u should stop watching it completely
I never get this, what's the rationale? That you stop liking normal girls because you fap to obscure fetishes?

Fapping to trannies.
>wanting to fuck trannies

Yeh pretty much breh. Why would I fuck a normal girl when a can fuck a girl who has a dick.

>t. degenerate porncel

I don't know man, I fap to trannies and still like common girls just as much.

You can learn to orgasm without ejaculating. If done right, the sexual energy will be redirected to your brain, giving you spiritual and physical powers. I have not succeeded at it yet so I don't know how much truth there is in all of that

Yes, it's not as bad as watching full on hardcore porn. Looking at naked beautiful women and jacking it is probably the healthiest form of porn, or w/e, but if she's fitting like both of her fists in her ass, that's where you draw the line.

Do you fap to normal girls as well?

Sure, but to be fair they generally have sexually suggestive clothes (swimsuits, tight clothing, etc)
I also fap in the bathroom while thinking about girls I know some times.

Seems pretty normal to me breh. You're fine

Hey guys, I'm about to break.
Today has been pretty frustrating, headache and all. What should I do to distract myself before I start looking up pornography

Porn is one of the worst things unleashed on mankind. The obvious best is to cut porn entirely and then to have sex with your hot wife/gf regularly.

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Nofap is only for if your dick stops working

>and then to have sex with your hot wife/gf regularly

what are acceptable substitutes for porn?
Do naked models photos count as porn?

>what are acceptable substitutes for porn?
Going outside
Drawing
Writing
Coding
Lifting

Not being a useless sack of shit.

Your imagination

Any outside stimulation that isn't another human being is considered porn. Video, picture, audio, can all be porn.

So in trying to cut down fapping I'm doing no porn and only jerking in the shower, so once a day (down from averaging over 1 a day, 25 years old so at least my libido is still good I guess)

Is this a good idea?

I voted:
Cut porn forever but masturbate as much as you want, it's harmless

No porn: too many jews behind porn for me to believe it's really healthy
Fap as much as you want because it's kind of self regulating

Having casual sex is worse that porn

stagnating energy is worse thing for your soul and will manifest in psychological and/or physical problems

There is some obscure belief that sexual energy should be channeled into making kids, and any other use is a waste of vitality that could be used to till a farm or wrestle a bear or some shit.

Retards on the internet misinterpreted that and started trying to fap without ejaculating for some dumbass reason.

Fapping and cumming actually does effect your body, but it's temporary at best. Your body assumes it's just impregnated some chick, and starts congratulating itself on a job well done until it can get ready to go again.

Some monk a few years ago came up with the sexual energy explanation from what they observed because science wasn't a thing then. Retarded people on the internet did what retarded people do, and made a cult around it.

get out of the environment. for me just getting out of my place and taking a quick walk works completely. i don't know how many days in you are but it definitely gets easier

8 days is solid man. Here's what you need to do. Find some nice pic of a girl, and go to wherever, and take your time. Have fun. Once you bust, that's all your getting for the next 8 days.

No fap is meant to make you a healthy human being who isn't sex hyped and insane. Not torture you. Abstaining from jacking it for 8 days is a solid effort. If you can't find a chick willing to fuck you to preserve your streak, just take care of it by fapping. It's not a huge deal.

It's not.

While I'd argue that 3 or 4 is fine for some people, basically this.

It's mostly because those fucking cultists on reddit who use the name nofap are weird as shit. And when people say nofap, others automatically associate them.

So in other words fuck reddit.

Mind clarifying what you mean? I'm a little lost. What's the dude you replied to doing?

Is jerking off to pictures of girls you know/pictures they sent cheating?

How is fucking a bunch of random slags less bad that watching porn?

what i want to know is

did people jerk it in the middle ages?

what about in ancient egypt? wouldn't sand make it too hard to fap?

can confirm.
Weirdly enough even music seems to sound better.

No, they didn't.
Don't know about ancient egypt but masturbation was concerned sinful behaviour by the general population of the western world until about 1970.

>did people jerk it in the middle ages?

Yes, Luther once remarked that if it doesn't end up in a woman it goes into your shirt

I've masturbated to porn probably daily since I was 11 and I'm 23 now.

I get hard just from literally holding hands with my girlfriend, and I can last as long as I want during sex.

Don't blame porn because your dicks don't work desu

>wouldn't sand make it too hard to fap?
Are you actually retarded? Do you think people in the middle east walk around with sand on their dicks?

Sleeping with women is a fix for ED. You can pretty much do what you want to it if you've eventually got a woman to regularly stick it into.

When you don't have that, your jacking off habits are the sole determinant of your erections

>what works for me works for you
We got us a real scientist among us!

I just sleep in my cum pile

People jerked off since the beginning of time.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onan

>When Onan had sex with Tamar, he withdrew before his orgasm[4] and "spilled his seed [or semen] on the ground", since any child born would not legally be considered his heir.[5] The next statement in the Bible says that Onan did evil and that God slew him.[6]

>inb4 where does it say masturbation
Spilling your "seed in vain" aka using your sexual shit for anything but procreation was prohibited.

No substitutes. No clothed women. Even pictures of furniture which create an optical illusion of a woman's body are forbidden.

i've been addicted to porn since i was 14 (now 20)

i masturbate 2 or three times a day

i tried no fap for a while but never made it past 7 days, after 3 or 4 days the cravings get so bad i cant focus on much else, feel like an animal

i also have been dating my girlfriend for two years and we have sex a couple of times a week when i stay at her house

when we do have sex its usually 3 times in a day, if it's less than that i'll probably masturbate as well if i'm not staying the night or some other reason we wont be together

im not trying to brag, im just saying that begin addicted to porn isn't the end of the world, so long as you maintain your grip on reality, i feel like the reason im able to enjoy a good sex life despite my addiction is that im a good person, and i don't let the extreme stuff i see in porn slip into my real life too much, i keep fantasy separate from reality and have the kind of sex my girlfriend and i can enjoy together

of course im very lucky to have met someone with such a high sex drive, but the way i see it now i could get away with being addicted to porn my whole life, if my girlfriend's sex drive slows down, that's okay, she'll understand if i have to wank a few extra times, and if it doesn't, i guess i'll switch over from a porn addict to a sex addict once we move in together

hope someone finds this interesting

Because it's real? lmao
There's nothing wrong with casual hookups, get that out of your head

>Because it's real?lmao
So are the STD's that come with it :^)